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Wednesday, May 9, 2012

OKIE & BULLDOG REPORT, 9 MAY

Bulldog75: 10:33PM CST: OKIE & BULLDOG75 POST: "OKIE HAS BEEN IN THE OIL PATCH THE LAST THREE DAYS, BUT WE CONVERSE REGULARLY DURING THE DAY. WE ARE RECEIVING INDICATORS IN FROM EVERY POSSIBLE SOURCE THAT 'WE MAY BE ONLY HOURS' NOT DAYS, AWAY FROM OUR BLESSING. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THINGS HAVE NEVER LOOKED AS POSITIVE & INEVITABLE AS THEY DO AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME."

BWM POST, 9 MAY

6:46 PM [BWM] well been one of those days... and some information circulating is just wrong... bank wires were not stopped yesterday per bank contacts today and yes, were still operating this afternoon for international and U.S. transfers... also, chillimac pointed out something that happened this afternoon after I had posted about foreign entities owning federally regulated WAS CHANGED today as the gov allowed a special ruling for China to have interest in U.S. properties (regulated)

[Bankerbabe] BWM Someone was saying bank transfers weren't going yesterday? I missed that one. I did 3 yesterday and I know for a fact they went :)

[BWM] Bankerbabe international was the key they were trying to point out...

[TexasT] BWM did they not say only WF transfers, sir?

[BWM] TexasT well the banking contact was WF so that pretty much blows that one up... those are rumors... based on articles that were put out by iraq

[chillimac] bwm ty sir

[BWM] chillimac credit where credit is due... good job... you got it out before I could post it you did fine... it was good to get that out to folks

[businessasusual] BWM.... Do you still feel real good about this week per your statement last Saturday? Or have you lost confidence in this week being our week?

[BWM] businessasusual my only thing today is I didn't feel like during business hours today... other than that I still think we look good

[wittsend] BWM I'm given to understand that a contingency of Cinese have arrived to run herd over this thing. have you heard the same? Chinese, sorry

[BWM] wittsend nothing like that no I haven't... but those are regulated by state department

[chillimac] bwm sry didnt mean to jump the gun

[BWM] chillimac get the information out when you can... like I've always said, doesn't matter who's first just that it gets to the ppl

[JOHNNYcashin] BWN do you really believe that The RV will happen this a month? ?

[BWM] JOHNNYcashin still looking closest to farthest... so still working in the now

[wittsend] BWM I was told they are not happy that this has not occurred yet, we keep futzing around.

[BWM] wittsend I don't think anyone is really happy about this now that owns dinar

[superbiz01] BWM so IYO, are we closer, further away, or just spinning our wheels ?? This is driving me more crazy and stressed than ever before! I am sooo nauseated and need off this ride!

[BWM] superbiz01 understood and agreed...

[chuckw] BWM heard today on ptr 2013 could be the time frame from some what is your opinion?

[BWM] chuckw smoke.. that was put out by the UST... and they lie

[JOHNNYcashin] Do you think that it's in the hands of the big for banks to make this happen?

[BWM] JOHNNYcashin not really... but at the same time they had some input... it's complicated but supposedly resolved

[brsuperduty] BWM if the chinese techs were here i doubt we know about it right

[BWM] brsuperduty depends on who came... they are regulated by different departments depending on what office they hold

[JOHNNYcashin] Thank you for staying on it we really appreciate your helpI BWM

[BWM] JOHNNYcashin unfortunately, it's the wrong things we can usually debunk first... so we kinda work "backwards"

[bahamamama] Just logged back on to read BWM said he does not think anyone would be happy with it that owns dinar. Hate to ask to repeat, but what was the "IT" part ????

[BWM] bahamamama we were referring to ALL those that were not happy with it taking this long... all those that own dinar are not happy

[wittsend] BWM Who regulates the pissed Chinese?

[BWM] wittsend depends on "how important" they are...

[sandytob] BWM Weren't the Chinese here several weeks ago to finish this up? This game has a lot of deja vu in it.

[BWM] sandytob I don't share some of those opinions...

[jc2] Wittsend...no wonder at all...all the computer are made in china....LOL

[BWM] jc2 just want to make sure we don't misunderstand

[mamari4] BWM thanks for the reasoned and reasonable info - there is so much CRAP being spread around

[BWM] mamari4 I don't have a problem with some of the information put out (I wouldn't have put it out) but have heard some of it... BUT when we know we can debunk something we do our best to go ahead and put a stop to things... try to keep everyone pointed in the same direction

FREEWAYBILL POST, 9 MAY

There is a time when you just have to sit back and relax and NOW IS THE TIME!

My telephone has rung off the hook today with so many things that just comes up when everyone refuses to just relax and let this whole RV just unfold for us...

Fact: There is no document written and distributed by any bank that causes the validity of this investment to be in question... NONE!

Fact: There is no "MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN" that is magically going to just make this RV go away and leave us all without our blessing.

Fact: We have way too many people digging for problems that are just not there. This is a legistical issue and not a political issue that is hindering the timing on this blessing.

Now that you have this, please just sit back and relax... put your digging shovel away and enjoy life. I spend 11-12 hours a day working and I must admit that since being so busy and only being able to deal with a much smaller, but more credible group of sources, I am healthier and feel more comfortable about all of this. I KNOW that the blessing is in this moment and we are almost to the finish line. Is it tonight? I hope so, but if not, I will take it when it comes. What is the rate? As my dear twin brother Soonerfan says "DON'T CARE" because no matter what the rate is, it is going to provide me with the funds to do a lot of work in the name of the Lord!

I pray for all of you every night. We ALL NEED THIS TO HAPPEN! I pray that all of you can be in a "good place" emotionally and spiritually so that you can take this as it comes.

We have all went down this road together and I have been blessed in meeting friends that I would have not met any other way.... Marshw (Tonto), from Jodi (pistol) Lojak, Dash, PapaJack and Jonny, Bella Grits, Jonnywg, Cap1, Debtarheels, Okie, Studley, all of the great people from over at PTR, 3sintel, intel4u, MIG, Dinaralerts, etc. are just a few of the great people. I have talked to people in higher places in the government than I would ever imagined and people from many different countries. I know way So, please just relax and let this thing unfold... I promise you that it will come... and soon!

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU and GOD BLESS THE USA

Freeway

KAPERONI POST, 9 MAY


5-9-2012 Kaperoni: The CBI is for practical purposes “independent,” but it would be naive to think that “what’s going on around” the CBI has no bearing on the monetary policy. Certainly it does. Just as the dinar is the face of Iraq, the GOI’s stability and unity is the footing in which it stands. Without one or the other monetary success would not only suffer, but could fail.  One can clearly surmise that the CBI is at the point that they feel comfortable sharing the “full program” (plan).  The CBI has reached the “advanced stages” of preparations (removed 3 zero notes). This next step clearly appears to be the “stage” we were waiting on. That the GOI will review the plan and, hopefully, give the CBI their blessing.  Then, in Saleh’s own words up in the previous quote, “after obtaining approval from the federal government to implement it..”  If the GOI approves this project then we will see “exact details” come out. What they have avoided telling the people, they will now share. What they have skated around, they will have to explain. At that point I believe this event must occur right away. Realistically when can this occur? It could take a week or two, or it could be early June.  IMO, It appears to be lining up with the release of the UN Chapter 7 which may occur mid June. That also fits with July Tariffs and future WTO accession later this year.

DUCKBOY POST, 9 MAY

5-9-2012 Duckyboy: There are many rumors out there that the RV will happen by Friday.  This, of course, is coming from some gurus.  One guru is claiming that Obama was in Iraq for 7 days and that O's "body double" was in DC (I laughed until I cried... I'm serious... he actually claims this to be "intel").  Then there the others who are talking about bank screens and that it should all be done by Friday.  There will be a ton of confusion before the RV is done.  We don't know what shape or form the confusion will take, but if you follow the news line then I believe it will be something about Maliki.  To be more specific and as an example, if we read in the news that they are having a special session of the parliament to vote no-confidence on Maliki, I believe that prior to that vote, we'll see an RV, then a seated GOI with a fully implemented Erbil agreement.  I just don't believe, right now, Maliki is going anywhere. This is just one way and it is a guess, but it's just as good as what all the gurus are claiming, who knows!!

JONNY POST, 9 MAY

.jonnywg] EVENING ALL

[.jonnywg] HI ALL ,,,,,, I WAS IN A MODERATED MEETING YESTERDAY WITH 2 EXPERTS,,,,......... ONE ON THE global settlements and prosperity packages for many years and the other person is a stock market expert and analyst.......... these were the notes and concensus opinions were as follows................. i have permission from them to repost.............'''''''''''''''''.....................

REASONS FOR RV/GS/PP’S IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS!! 

1. O is out officially as a decision maker 

2. Per A TOP SOURCE, mandated by Thursday – money will be flowing through banks only Wednesday, and Thursday.

3. International wires can’t’ go out in the next 48 hours. Their reasoning is they don’t want them in the system…interesting. Wells Fargo is saying it’s a software update, so that’s confirmation. Confirmed Tuesday 2pm 

4. Charts – A TOP SOURCE agreed with an additional top Market source (gold, silver, oil lining up—this reverts back to May 08, 2011 adjustments--crazy) 

5. Major tele-conference meeting this morning with IMF, US, China, Iraq, BIS, and UST to finalize all these changes. (Framework and instructions for RV) 

6. The UST has been given the go ahead with the instructions/blueprint for the RV 

7. Announcement from France picked up by the BBC announcing major banking changes worldwide. Was supposed to be yesterday per A TOP SOURCE, but basically it’s coming from outside the US and that forces the US to comply. FRANCE NOW CONFIRMS CHANGES 

8. B of A just announced principle reduction in mortgage. This should make all banks follow. But there is a reason why. 

9. The Chinese say so! And they have the financial power 

10. I say so – looking at my fortune cookie! .

jonnywg

[.jonnywg] do not give up on this week



vivrelereve] .jonnywg .jonnywg .jonnywg so the 48 hours began yesterday and we are in the final 24, correct?
[.jonnywg] vivrelereve yes and tx for the info .............. great price range

[booyah] .jonnywg .jonnywg   bottom line for us brain dead stressed out types? still expecting it tonight
[.jonnywg] booyah yup

 [bama] It's always bothered me to see the WGS/PP delusions get thrown in with my dinar delusions   
[.jonnywg] bama they are different but somehow connected

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 9 MAY

5-9-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana   This week we've had a SLIGHT increase in activity, which might be a good thing!  The Deputy for Iraq announced an agreement to hold a national conference.   Iraqiya spokesman al-Damlouji stated that if Maliki doesn't smooth things over with the Kurds in the next 15 days, they will consider removing him.   ["continued in post 4...stay tuned"]

5-9-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   Things are heating up. Maliki is almost out of time. It appears that with or without him, we are moving forward along with the economic future of Iraq. Maliki is scrambling to comply, or at least appear compliant, to the 9-point ultimatum letter that he received. One of those 9 points was calling for the adoption of Erbil. More than an agreement, Erbil is a schedule of legislative priorities that include several items that have a history of being very complicated and difficult to implement.  ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

5-9-2012  Newshound Guru Doc   Several news releases continue to show Kuwait's support for the release of chapter 7.  The ambassador to Iraq virtually was quoted as saying do it now!  There was an article that indicated an UN official as saying implementation of some of the items to resolve outstanding issues between Kuwait and Iraq may take up to 8 months.  We do not believe this was referring to the time of release from chapter 7 but full implementation of those items that prevent chapter 7 release such as UN resolution 833.  The overall language from Kuwait and Iraq still shows an expected release most probably by the June 15 UNSC meeting. ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

5-9-2012  Intel Guru BWM   I believe that Iraq has done all they need to do for this to happen...but with the fact that this still is their currency, well, that makes it complicated. I believe from all that I have heard that the banks don't know when this will hit (they hear it's coming down) but don't have a final say.

5-9-2012  Intel Guru Bulldog75   AM AWAITING FURTHER DATA AND CONFIRMATIONS. UNTIL THAT TIME, WE ARE SIMPLY AWAITING FOR THE RATES TO DROP TO THE FRONT BANK SCREENS. WHEN THAT EXACT TIME SHOULD COME IS UNKNOWN.

5-9-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana  As Iraq continues to make progress, we will continue to see increases in the value of these papers we are holding.  All the l0psters and negative people and news stories in the world can't change that fact: Our IQD has risen in value. If you invested 8 years ago, you've almost doubled your money ["continued in post 3...stay tuned"]

5-9-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   the Finance Commitee decided they were going to enact some regulations to help with the control of cash flowing outside of the country.  They enacted a regulation to only allow 50,000 worth of cash travelling outside of the country - that is for people who are leaving the country...the Finance Committee needs to work in conjunction with the CBI in order to enact the regulations...the rules & regulations help the CBI accomplish what they want to accomplish - thats what happened today. ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

5-9-2012  Intel Guru BWM    from what I have heard, the greece issue has no "effect" on the current situation with the RV per se... while in the overall scope of things it has some relevance.  I can't say how good I feel about today yet honestly...I haven't heard anything that said it "couldn't happen" but at the same time I haven't gotten anything that makes me believe it absolutely will...just my honest opinion.

5-9-012  Intel Guru BellaGrits  looks like "currencies and revals" are getting some headlines-- that's great. Market conditions appear to be looking great for an RV...AND yes, those things actually come into PLAY... It's confusing, but price of gold, oil, usd; ETC...And how they may be manipulated at various times lends experts an "eye" for revaluating currencies. We are told we are in a phenomenal window -- so great, better than anytime they've SEEN...OUR eyes are on many variables.

5-9-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana   Lately there has been a DEPRESSINGLY LOW amount of actual "news". ... I used to have a whole laundry list of things that needed to happen before an RV.  That list has whittled down to TWO things: HCL, and Chapter 7. That's IT.   The RV will not happen until those two things happen.   ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

5-9-2012  Intel Guru Bear5642   ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN...THINGS HAVE BEEN MOVED INTO POSITION...AND AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN SIGNED. IRAQ MUST AND WILL DO THIS. THEY WILL GO BACK INTO THE STONE AGE IF THEY DO NOT RV IMMDEIATELY.

5-9-2012  Intel Guru Cap1  DANG, I'M EXCITED!!   [Looks like the wait will not be very long!!!] NOT LONG AT ALL...ALL POINTS TO TOMORROW [Wednesday]. WE'RE GOOD TO GO NOW.

5-9-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg   Bank screens are going crazy with change...no numbers, old numbers...0000.00 all sorts...within 24 hrs we will know if this excitement is the real thing.

ADAM MONTANA CHAT, 9 MAY


[Adam Montana] Iraq, and the IQD, is just like that... how fitting, right? "Obstacles are those firghtful things you see when you take your eyes off the goal"

[Adam Montana] If you spend your days getting distracted by all the "opinions" and "articles" out there, it can sometimes be easy to lose sight of the goal

[Adam Montana] Iraq has said many many times over that they intend to "increase the value of the dinar".

[Adam Montana] And over the last decade, what have we seen?

[Adam Montana] we have seen the value INCREASE

[Adam Montana] when the value increases, we make money. Period. End of story.

[Adam Montana] As Iraq continues to make progress, we will continue to see increases in the value of these papers we are holding.
[Adam Montana] All the l0psters and negative people and news stories in the world can't change that fact: Our IQD has risen in value.

[Adam Montana] If you invested 8 years ago, you've almost doubled your money. CONTRARY to what most 401ks have done in the same time period!

[Adam Montana] I'm not giving you advice here. I'm not stating that you should cash out your 401k and buy dinar :lol: But I will say that IF YOU HAD DONE THAT in 2004.... you'd probably be a lot better off right now! :lol:

[Adam Montana] So, back to the original topic that was here when I started:

[Adam Montana] "Obstacles are those frightening things you see when you take your eyes off the go al"

[Adam Montana] I think we should all be able to agree that Iraq has moved forward, they obviously have a goal in mind. If we focus on the negatives, the obstacles, we can get frightened. But if we simply look at the "goal", we should be content to simply sit back and wait for it to happen

[Adam Montana] ok, moving on

[Adam Montana] Lately there has been a DEPRESSINGLY LOW amount of actual "news". Those of you that have been with me for years knwo that I used to have a whole laundry list of things that needed to happen before an RV.

[Adam Montana] That list has whittled down to TWO things: HCL, and Chapter 7. That's IT.

[Adam Montana] The RV will not happen until those two things happen, so when I read an article I am looking for those two things.

[Adam Montana] This week we've had a SLIGHT increase in activity, which might be a good thing!

[Adam Montana] The Deputy for Iraq announced an agreement to hold a national conference.

[Adam Montana] Iraqiya spokesman al-Damlouji stated that if Maliki doesn't smooth things over with the Kurds in the next 15 days, they will consider removing him.

[Adam Montana] There is a BLACKOUT on news about Warka... this one is a little sketchy. Why are they blacking it out? The last real news we had on Warka (the only place a foreign citizen can open an Iraqi account without actually being IN Iraq) was that the CBI was possible taking over their operation. I'm interested to hear more about this, but there's no news yet.

[Adam Montana] The first 3 items I listed could be taken as positive news that the RV will happen soon. The next two items push it out a little further:

[Adam Montana] Economic Committee in the House of Representatives state that Iraq will not accend to the WTO due to issues within the GOI

[Adam Montana] (Again, Maliki needs to get his act together. They need to join the WTO for their long term goals to succeed)

[Adam Montana] And the United Nations announced that the issues between Iraq and Kuwait may take another 8 months.

[Adam Montana] (ouch!)

[Adam Montana] Some of that might have encouraged you, and some of it might have discouraged you. None of it even bothers me a little, and I would hope that you can maintain the same attitude. Don't let the little things get in the way of your reasoning. The bottom line is this:

[Adam Montana] 1. Iraq has moved forward and I believe they will continue to do so, therefore I will continue to profit on my Iraqi Dinar.

[Adam Montana] and 2. Until we see Chapter 7 and HCL done, there is no RV. None of the 5 or 6 items I just reported have any negative effect on the HCL or Chapter 7, therefore I remain in the same frame of mind: "I wait patiently".

[Adam Montana] The first couple questions this week are ones that I put in there myself. If you take the time to read these, you'll know exactly where I stand, every single week, on every single issue.

[Adam Montana] kcw, fire away! (Sorry I was so long winded this morning :lol: )

[kcw] UserA: Did you read XYZ article?

[Adam Montana] Answer: YEs, I did. Since it didn't tell me Chapter 7 was released or the HCL was resolved, I view it as a "little thing" along the way.

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] UserB: Did you read (Bob/Sam/Sue/Sally)'s opinion?

[Adam Montana] Answer: Probably not! :lol: Everyone has an opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. I have mine, you should make yours, and make your decision based on your own opinion. If you think you should hold Dinars - do so. If you think it's a waste of time - sell out and move on. :tiphat:

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] UserC: When do you think it will happen?

[Adam Montana] Sometime right after they release Chapter 7 and resolve the HCL. I'll say the same thing EVERY WEEK in response to that question. It's been close to 10 years in the making so far, a couple more weeks, months, or even years is definitely possible

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] cgbrown Adam, again we express our thanks to you for sharing the information you glean each week. ... do you still believe it will hatch???

[Adam Montana] I believe it IS hatching! I don't know if we will see a $1 RV or a 30% increase over 5 years, but I do know that the GOAL is to "increase the value".

[Adam Montana] I support Iraq and I think they are making progress. Therefore, I will continue to hold my Dinars.

 [Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] Amos9:13 Adam, Keepemwlknfunny is pretty good at backing his bunny-ear theory based on the recent CBI articles. His two major arguments are as follows; 1. Why would Iraq spend money on a RV when they could bunny-ear for free? 2. They have referred to Turkey's RD for their guide.

[Adam Montana] keepm has his opinions, and I respect him for being a valued member here. I don't always agree with him, such as in this case.

[Adam Montana] if they l0p, they make no money. They LOSE money. Why would they do that? and 2. Turkey was in a different situation. I don't think they will follow Turkey's path, regardless of what they say.

[Adam Montana] Keepm also thinks theres a chance we will make money on this investment. I agree with him there. :tiphat:)

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] edbeach Good Morning Adam. It looks like the tariffs are delayed until July now. Also some talk because of all the political unrest in Iraq they may be delayed entry into the WTO. What is your opinion of these items in affecting an RV this month or June verses after Sept. to Jan 2013. Would be interested in your opinion, I know is just a guess in this mass confusion of Iraq. Thank you in advance

[Adam Montana] edbeach, this is a prime example of the "noise" that distracts from the Goal. Could it be delayed until June or September or 2015? Absolutely! But that doesn't mean it WILL be delayed.

[Adam Montana] Basically, I look at it this way: a "delay" is not a loss - it just means I have to wait a little longer. *shrug*

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] scrayone Adam, Thanks for the site. Every week you leave us hanging on the premise of good news, but you do not elaborate. I have never asked a question on here, here it comes. Which do you honestly think, in your opinion, month will this happen? June, September, Or January after the IMF meets?

[Adam Montana] Hang on there buddy! lol! I don't "leave you hanging"... Iraq leaves us all hanging. I state very clearly that we can't predict when or what will happen here.

[Adam Montana] In my opinion it is going to happen very soon after Chapter 7 and the HCL are done, and not a moment sooner

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] francesro Adam assuming the original RV starts low at perhaps .10, how long of a delay do you think there will be before another increase, (days, weeks, months) and by how much? Can you speculate on length of time and approx. rate increase over time. Also what is the risk of waiting to cash in later?

[Adam Montana] francesro, great question!

[Adam Montana] In my opinion it depends entirely on IF they give us a mandatory "cash in" period. If you check Wikipedia for information on Kuwait's currency, you'll see that they switched out their currency several times in less than a decade. Each time they did so, they put a mandatory "trade in" time on the older currency. After the deadline, the old currency was simply no good.

[Adam Montana] It's very likely they will do something similar in Iraq, and I would guess that it will correlate to the value of the new currency. If the rate changes drastically, they will likely put a shorter cash in time. If it's a smaller rate change, we'll have more time

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] Shabibilicious Adam, Do you think Donald Driver will win the coveted "Mirror Ball" trophy before the RV happens? GO RV, then BV

[Adam Montana] WOOOT!!!! Double D!!!! : D I have no idea... but Driver and Dancing with the Stars takes up half of my local morning news lol! I should probably watch an episode, he looks pretty darn good in the clips I've seen!

[Adam Montana] next please

[kcw] usndiver What do you make of the 15 day ultimatum to implement the Erbil Agreement?

[Adam Montana] usndiver, good question. I think "ultimatum" is a questionable term

[Adam Montana] here is the exact text from the article I read, with the questionable words in caps: "There is a period of 15 days to acheive partnership and otherwise we will DISCUSS other alternatives SUCH AS the withdrawal of... Maliki"

[Adam Montana] "discuss" and "such as" is not a very strong "ultimatum", BUT we have no way of knowing how serious they are. If, in their back rooms, they are REALLY putting the hammer down... then this is AWESOME and we're looking at some serious movement. If, on the other hand, they are just inching along as usual... well, then we're just inching along as usual.

[Adam Montana] I hope they are serious :twocents:

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] ChrisIQ Could having an On Shore Acccount with (XYZ Bank) that holds deposits in foreign currencies be of any use in structure designs pre at or post rv?

[Adam Montana] Good question. Let me preface it with this: any time you talk to a "bank", you are usually going to get the same response: "Sorry, we don't take dinar and we never will"

[Adam Montana] Obviously that "policy" will change when the value of the Dinar soars. Until then, you're not going to get any real information from banks.

[Adam Montana] In my opinion, Yes! It could be a great idea to work with a bank that carries multiple currencies! But those banks are more than likely going to be bigger mainstream banks with huge funding, and you are not going to need a relationship with them pre-RV. Anyone who tells you to open an account now is just spouting off nonsense.

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] scottch Adam, just a quick two part question. If Iraq is released from CH.7 in June, like we all hope it will, is that going to be enough to have the RV happen or will we still have to wait for the HCL to be complete? Do you think that the GOI will try to have the HCL complete before the UN meeting in June?

[Adam Montana] I hope they get the HCL done first, because that would simplify things. However, they don't have to do so. Will it happen by June? Again, I hope so! But as always, we can't predict the future.

[Adam Montana] Next please!

[kcw] Patriotic_mess Adam, you are well respected in the Dinar community and many people look to you as a guide (including myself). Yet there some people who have websites listing groups of gurus as scammers and you're name happens to pop up on a few of them. You yourself have said Adam Montana is not your real name and that's fine if you want to hide your real identity, but a few sites go into a lot of detail about the man behind the name and give pages of evidence that person or people are involved in some shady business. What do you have to say to these claims? I'm not accusing you of anything, I just want to hear what you have to say to these accusations. Thanks.

[Adam Montana] I'm perfectly happy to respond to the "accusations", but first I want to know if your name is really "patriotic mess" lol!

[Adam Montana] I assume not, but let's move on - no, my name isn't Adam. My contacts are real, , and my opinions are mine whether I'm an 80 year old Harvard graduate or a 25 year old business man.

[Adam Montana] If you agree with my opinions, awesome. If you don't - good for you as well

[Adam Montana] Regarding the "scam" part of my sites - lol! I don't give financial advice, it's clearly stated all over the place that *** supports the site and there is no guarantee on anything here, and I'm probably the only "guru" out there that will actually tell you that you might take a loss on this investment.

[Adam Montana] *MIGHT*. We all know that.

[Adam Montana] Now, if you want my real name and address... please, give me a break I have a family, I have a life outside of Dinar, and I hope you can all respect that. [Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] afields Hello Adam thanks for all you do, i have a question have you heard any news from your contact at the CBI, or any of your contact over there. Thanks GO RV!!!!!

[Adam Montana] Same as last week, unfortunately! Everyone has their eyes on the goal, but it's a slow process in Iraq.

[Adam Montana] As long as they keep moving forward, I am happy to watch, learn, and wait.

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] ChiTownHopeful Adam Have you heard anything about banks freezing international wire transfers out of the USA? Thank you

[Adam Montana] No, other than a couple of bunk rumors.

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] few24u Aloha Adam, So will one of your cash in sites be located in Hawaii? If not, how would you suggest, to those w/o access to one of your sites, we cash in if we must travel overseas to reach a site?? Yes, I am being positive about it coming on this year!! Thanks!

 [kcw] amhvl Adam…you have previously indicated Iraq has sufficient proxy ministers in place to facilitate an RV, which would lessen or nullify the importance of Erbil. Shabbibi has stated his reluctance (or refusal) to RV without a fully seated GOI (or Erbil power sharing fully implemented). Considering the apparent ambiguity of the two positions, I am wondering which position is correct and why?

[Adam Montana] That's a great question! I wish I could tell you for absolute certain which one is the "final answer", but I think it could happen either way.

[Adam Montana] Maliki could be being forced AS WE SPEAK to get Erbil (Arbil, Erbil, and Irbil are all the same thing FYI) resolved... or Shabibi could be blowing smoke and they could bypass that whole thing and stamp a few documents then raise the value without seating one more person.

[Adam Montana] Wish I could tell you something more positive, but it's a coin toss.

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] new york kevin Sir Adam: With all the recent talk regarding the valuation of the IQD firmly coming in at 10 cents, with a limited cashin time around 90 days, so that the GOI can remove excess dinar from the world market at the lowest possible cost to them. I believe it was said on account of the fact that bottomline they are holding all the cards and therefore it makes perfect sense that they will do what is in the best interest of the GOI and the Iraqi people. Does this all mean that if this scenario is true, inorder for us who have been in this (me since 2006) to hopefully retire with a windfall that we will have to sell at 10 cents and then turn around with this money and reinvest it in the new revalued dinar and sit on that as its value hopefully rises to a hopefully 2:1 or 3:1 ratio? Please answer this question on your next chat. Sincerely; New York Kevin

[Adam Montana] You are indeed 100% correct - this is a possible scenario

[Adam Montana] it's not what everyone wants to hear, but it is indeed possible

[Adam Montana] next please!

[kcw] Amos9:13 Also I would like to ask you if you think it might be safe to say that Iraq is a new age Germany....Germany did RV (25 years later but we are living in faster times) and they were torn by war (turkey was not) possibly could we see a faster Germany like RV?

[Adam Montana] Amos9:13, we ARE living in faster times! Iraq is on about year 10 of a possible RV, so they are getting closer to that 25 year mark. I STRONGLY doubt it will take quite that long, but when you put it in perspective like this...

[Adam Montana] .... I think we should all be comforted by the fact that Iraq IS going forward and all signs point to it not taking 25 years!

[Adam Montana] That's the last one, I know this was a long chat and we covered a lot of topics. I'll follow up when kcw posts it in the forum. Thanks everyone.... watch out for guru-fever and GOO RVVVVV!!!!!!

POPPY POST, 9 MAY

7:44 PM [poppy3] just in for a min. GUYS I heard today from two of the three sources that said last sunday WE would see the RV this week. They both today told me they are still assured that the move for the activation of ERBIL and announcement of the MINISTERS ARE in process . 

They feel there has been a couple days that things didnt happen the way they had been told they would so we could be a couple days further out but they still feel it will be very close to this week . 

Again I do respect these guys and they arn't making anything up --This is what the powers that be are sharing with them. I should hear very late tonight from the third source. BE BLESSED POPPY3

BULLDOG POST, 9 MAY

Bulldog75: 3:22pm CST: AM AWAITING FURTHER DATA AND CONFIRMATIONS. UNTIL THAT TIME, WE ARE SIMPLY AWAITING FOR THE RATES TO DROP TO THE FRONT BANK SCREENS. WHEN THAT EXACT TIME SHOULD COME IS UNKNOWN. GOD HAS MADE IT A POINT ALREADY, THAT NO ONE KNOWS BUT HIM. I SHALL RETURN IF WE HAVE DOCUMENTED CONFIRMATIONS. THANKS. (gone).

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POST FROM DINARLAND, 9 MAY

[laurelei] Great quote of the day: "Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakens." Carl Jung

[DebTarHeelGirl] Morning guys - Gold was 1588 now dropped to 1582 in a matter of 30 mins and still dropping - heard they wanted gold below $1600? Wonder if that is a good sign as Oil dropped over $1.50 also this AM... hummmm Hugs everyone have a blessed day....

[SALTYDOG] laurelei The markets this morning are unusual the USD is over 80 hasn't been this high since mid January Gold is down almost $ 60 since Monday

May 8 10:28 PM trebor1859] Does Poppy still believe this week according to his 3 sources. It wasn't referenced on the call this evening. TY

May 8 10:28 PM [BGG] trebor1859 - Poppy believes "soon" - himself. He was sharing some info he heard on the last call. We're very interested to see how that turns out. I know all the "gory details" and I can tell you - it is from a pretty "racy contact". You would recognize the names

May 9 6:46 AM [TBLACK] i just read we wont b apart of the WTO.. this is not good.

May 9 7:11 AM [newmonies] TBLACK its not an issue... iraq can become apart of the wto at anytime... its the iraq gov that chose not 2 (again) enter into the wto... they are excepted by the wto and can join when they feel the time is right...

May 9 7:11 AM [newmonies] TBLACK the problem is that they have to be willing2 meet the conditions (which they can) but are not willing2 at this time...

May 9 7:22 AM [newmonies] the greece issue has everyone a little worried at this moment... and it made iraq sound like the other world players by saying that they were concerned with the EU economics at this time... kinda like saying its not us (iraq) thats not ready 2 join the wto, but its these other issues that are the reason we (iraq) are holding back...

May 9 7:25 AM [newmonies] so in other words... just an excuse "imo"

[love it 2] newmonies ...personally ..I dont think its a great idea for Greece to pull out.. but hey this world is whackey right now...as for it effecting markets and such...I'm sure it will ..but only for brief moment...6 months maybe a year...if "O" is holding this up the RV .... well he might want to light that fuse and blow this RV up and get it going..or its light out for him

dopeygrl] Look at the markets: Gold down again. Stock Market is to open lower. Currencies down. Dollar Stronger. Look for QE3 talk today. Big Ben talks tomorrow. Bank downgrade to happen http://www.bloomberg.com ··· ery.html

dopeygrl] Look at the markets: Gold down again. Stock Martket is to open lower. Currencies down. Dollar Stronger. Look for QE3 talk today. Big Ben talks tomorrow. Bank downgrade to happen http://www.bloomberg.com ··· ery.html

[dopeygrl] veggielover He could say no to QE3. look at how he is presented. If he ie presents as the Fed Chairman or The FOMC chairman. Fed Chairman means the FED is still in place. FOMC means they are not.

[pokerplyr] does anyone know what the question that Angelbabies asked that Jonny gave the 24 hour answer to?

(jonnywg] Angelbabies28 within 24 hrs we will know if this excitement is the real thing)

 [dopeygrl] pokerplyr He was waiting for the call last night and gave it 24 hours to see it came through.

[pokerplyr] dopeygrl let's hope it does!

pokerplyr] dopeygrl. Always reason to hope and pray until we're at the bank!!!

[citizensoldier] dopeygrl I understood that 24 hours would yield more and or a better understanding, as there is nothing hard, unless and until the rate goes live.

[dopeygrl] citizensoldier What more understanding do we need. It is either over or it is not. Remember the world needs this. Great nations and major economic institutions are collapsing right in front of our eyes. This has to happen now.

pokerplyr] dopeygrl Like I said....I'm in total agreement with you! I know we NEED this! Just wish we were in control of when it happens and not waiting for someone to release it when they're good and ready.

[dopeygrl] pokerplyr that is the hard part.I found it easier to look at the positives (which are negatives in th news). Smoke screens are also a good thing to look for. just remember that we are the good guys and the good guys always win..

[daniandquin] dopeygrl exactly- instead of dwelling on the negatives (ie: no RV yet) we need to focus on the positives that we have seen happen in the past few weeks!!!

[musiccitylady] I remember when our chat rooms used to be buzzing at this time of the morning....now everything seems slow...thinking everyone has just grown weary and very tired nowadays

[FIREPROOF] I wonder why all the sudden the posts seem to be about making the US great again instead of getting your money and protecting it somewhere other than here....Seems like a strange turn of attitudes.... I think it makes sense. I just wonder why the change?

[devildogmom] FIREPROOF I am glad for the rebuild America strategy. Our country needs healing not abandonment. If America becomes strong again, that have a positive effect on our blessing. Hugz

[FIREPROOF] devildogmom i agree but why the overnight change in thinking?

[nutzo] FIREPROOF jonny did say on his first post that his change was due to new information, but he didnt say what that was,

 [amg] I have great respect for our intel providers but I think each person MUST decide for themselves(with much wise counsel) where they need to put thier new found funds. Each situation is unique and requires personal attention.

[devildogmom] FIREPROOF Sounds to me like jonny and bella have done some more homework and are ready and willing to take the risk for a better tomorrow. 

BELLAGRITS POST, 9 MAY

BellaGrits] FIRST OF ALL, GOOD MORNING.... PRIOR TO COMMENTING ON OUR POSITION-- I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT INTEL4U-- IT'S REFRESHING TO SEE THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY TRYING HARD TO BRING YOU OUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS ON THE RV--BOTH PRE AND POST RV.....AS OPPOSED TO NEGATIVE OPINIONS ON OTHER INTEL PROVIDERS.....

WHAT A SHAME.....YOU'D THINK THEIR TIME WOULD BE MORE VALUABLE--YOURS TOO. NOW FOR INTEL....THE GOOD STUFF..... LOOKS LIKE "CURRENCIES AND REVALS" ARE GETTING SOME HEADLINES-- THAT'S GREAT. MARKET CONDITIONS APPEAR TO BE LOOKING GREAT FOR AN RV.....AND YES, THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY COME INTO PLAY

IT'S CONFUSING, BUT PRICE OF GOLD, OIL, USD; ETC... AND HOW THEY MAY BE MANIPULATED AT VARIOUS TIMES LENDS EXPERTS AN "EYE" FOR REVALUATING CURRENCIES. WE ARE TOLD WE ARE IN A PHENOMENAL WINDOW -- SO GREAT, BETTER THAN ANYTIME THEY'VE SEEN....OUR EYES ARE ON MANY VARIABLES....FROM WHERE WE SIT IN THE MARKET TO POLITICS TO WGS, PP, 3 LETTER AGENCIES, BANKS...

IT'S ALL EITHER ACTIONABLE INTEL (STUFF WE CAN SEE) OR JUST INTEL.... (STUFF WE ARE TOLD).... IT REALLY LOOKS EXCELLENT AS A WHOLE...I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT REPORTS TODAY THROUGH TOMORROW.....JUST WANTED TO DROP IN AND SHARE THIS WITH YOU. GOD BLESS YOU ALL, AND GOD BLESS THE USA.


GENERALS64 CHAT & POSTS, 9 MAY

[generals64] I stayed up late last night...i listened to every call...I read every report i could I read where The RV has happened...Will happen...has happened and will happen soon...I read Iraqidinarmoney.com...got lost in that one...I contacted everyone that would talk or that would answer their telephone...

Some "Guaranteed" today...tomorrow next week and yesterday. A couple of them changed their minds and their investment plans and how much they loved OUR country....Got some good laughs and good memories brought back. Told Oil was up and Down (oil shake) ...gold was cheap (not) and Gold was where it needs to be...( in the middle of Beverly Hills in somebodies elses name). 

Now where do we really stand?....and should we begin with a prayer?...hmmmm...boy it was an interesting night....Also found out who some people were and what they were trying to do....Heard the "gory Details"..but won't tell (lol)....

[mshaddie4] generals64 - where do you think we are this morning? Can you say?

generals64] mshaddie4 :...from people i think are ususally right....The revaluation is "working" through the hands of politics..."That should be a new term for us." From all indications the banks are beginning to believe in this transaction now.

 I heard that finally some of the smaller banks will get a shot at it if they are interested. Some foreign sources (banking and financiers are waiting now and are counting their coins).....I won't even joke about the date or rate anymore....

This Calling it Race is becoming "silly" and it's time we begin saying who stays and who goes. Having a large amount of money is fun....until you make a stupid mistake and lose it....Being smart with your current finances is the way to learn. Being agitated is not... You guys/gals are just as smart (some cases way smarter) than any of the GURUS and the "Wanna bes"...

Quit worrying about this and watch it grow into a beautiful flower....I takes a Cactus a while to bloom and it hurts during that time...But, once it happens it is so pretty. 

The owners of this site are not after you or your finances or your mind....they want You and I to be told the right things and no HYPE...I'm a Grump and I'm OLD....but telling you lies and BS (other than about Roscoe) is not my game....Not enough Coffee yet...

[generals64] mshaddie4 ;...Sorry I got so winded there....I like the cactus blooms....and I think we are in a good (not going to say window) place of reasoning within ourselves...There you go....But, some of my overseas sources have finally found where I am now...

mshaddie4....I think from our sources we are sitting in the middle of a cactus field....Understand???

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[generals64] quick (but long) story....Remember the people who invested in the Original oil fields in North Texas ( 1900's) were just common folks with a few dollars....Before the Strike they were laughed at and ridiculed...They questioned their sanity and began wondering how bad they had been "Hustled"....

[generals64] Then like a bolt of Lightning one of the largest oil Strikes ever was discovered at that time.

 [generals64] Those people were poor and confused and in financial trouble they became some of the wealthiest people ever on earth...

[generals64] Those people in North Texas were told they were stupid and the banks wouldn't talk to them...they had to Scratch every penny they could to make it happen for them...Now, I'm not promoting Dinar or this investment...I'm just telling you guys/gals that that was the largest transference of wealth during its day and time. 

Remember this is a good deal but, if you want out there are people still buying...don't be misled by anyone ....Use your head and common sense...If you could catch all I just posted about this you'll be able to wrap your head around the investment.

mimiover21] generals64 Saw you post this morning. Think we will ever see this thing POP??? Too many theories

generals64] mimiover21 :...yes I do...Seriously

[ScotchTerrier] generals64 ... my great-grandfather was a wild-catter in those days. His father, a cattleman/railroad builder, ridiculed him about fooling around with that black sticky stuff that ruined his water holes. Wouldn't support his efforts. 

 [generals64] ScotchTerrier :...yes and we just have an investment that is backed by oil don't we?...Common sense is what keeps you going remember that.....Wonder if your Great-grandfather ever loaned his dad any oil money????lol

ScotchTerrier] generals64 ... Well, I don't think great-great grandpa Sam really needed any loan, but there were some hard feelings there. Great grandpa Oscar relocated to another part of the state.

[mimiover21] I have a sister with a beautiful cactus garden---EVERYTHING is in bloom!!!! Even a century plant!

 [generals64] mimiover21 :...There you go...I told you a while ago about Cactus blooming.....

[BlessedinAZ] generals64 Good Morning Sir! I read your cactus analogy and it could be taken two ways. Either the cactus is ready to bloom after our several year wait or we have a long way to go for it to bloom. Could you please let me know which was your intent, sir? Thank you!

FIREPROOF] BlessedinAZ he is leaning more towards it's getting close

[generals64] BlessedinAZ :...i was meaning i think it is closer than we realize....I think the Cactus blooms are so pretty and full...But, when you get thrown from your horse on one of them they remind you of reality...

[burneyw] if there are no holdups what is the holdup????

pepper] maliki was given 15 days to honor erbil agreement or hit the highway we shall see

angelbabies28] dguru jonny said last night we should know something in 24 hrs

TwtyFn25] .Angel Squirrel 7 Yay see it's a beautiful day for an rv

[.Angel Squirrel 7] TwtyFn25 As far as I'm concerned.... it could be 9 feet of snow, ice, wind, rain, hot, cold, in-between... and ANY of it would be a GREAT day for and RV!!! Rofl

[djodyb] Its pretty funny......EVERYTHING is down today except the US dollar! Rofl

[djodyb] angelbabies28 I am not the most intellectual person when it comes to the markets, or what is the best sign for this RV to happen......I just find it fascinating

 [Daytona] djodyb several currencies have been kept within very tight trading bands. This is likely in preparation for something big ... like what we're all waiting for.

[ready4bank] Dinadave7 thought we would see it last night..... Footforward was on late as well and he was saying anytime

musiccitylady] Capt Crunch we still be waiting together!

[Capt Crunch] musiccitylady only for a short period of time.i sense this is about to be over unless something dramatic changes

[Capt Crunch] musiccitylady let ask you this then. if you bought Microsoft or Facebook stock after its IPO, or Apple Stock, would you, we, be watching it every day to see if it went up in value? I think not. We would say we own some stocks and watch it on occassion except those who are day traders, which I am not

Capt Crunch] we should just treat this dinar as if it were Apple stock or some other stock and be happy when we are notified it RV'd

Capt Crunch] musiccitylady i promise it will resolve the weekly ... ''here we are again , its another thrus or fri, and the manic monday mornings''

[Capt Crunch] musiccitylady good. i dont either. i pop in and say hello, enjoy the company of good fine people, and at night occassionaly check out dinarrecaps

[Capt Crunch] today the world is worried about Greece. Two weeks ago i started warning clients about Spain's debt. Europe is in the crapper, for sure, something has to be done. I believe its the rv to help resolve some of the global economic issues.

[Capt Crunch] ask one's self, how is europe , the IMF , the US going to help resolve these problems when the entire world is BROKE?

Capt Crunch] where is the money coming from to shore up Greece, Italy or Spain or even the USA?

[Capt Crunch] well with the USA, all the Fed has to do is another QE , QE3 , and print money out of air.