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Wednesday, April 25, 2012

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 25 APRIL


4-25-2012  Intel Guru Cap1   THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING. NOT AS SIMPLE AS WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE.  THERE IS NO HOLDUP.  FOR US, IT LOOKS AS IF THERE IS, BUT IN ACTUALITY, THERE IS NO HOLD UP. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.  WITH THE WTR [WAITING TO REPORT] SHOWING ON THE SCREENS, IT CAN’T BE LONG NOW.  NEXT STEP IS…….BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4-25-2012  Intel Guru Delta  [Post 2 of 2]   a friend in Iraq….mentioned that sometime in May the CBI will increase value something around nine or ten dinars per dollar which is around .09 or .10 cents. It’s very possible.  Iran and Syria have a lot of Dinar. If the CBI starts and comes out at .10 cents, those countries will have no choice but to cash in their Dinar. That is a lot of money for those countries. It’s one way for the CBI to get a lot of dinar back from surrounding countries. Remember they can come out at .10 cents and not release lower-denoms right now. By the time of Jan. 2013 we should at least see the dinar at 1:1 with the dollar. Not rumors, but the CBI has said they will increase the value gradually. Even if we have 8 months, it’s a win/win for all of us.
4-25-2012  Intel Guru Frank26    [Post 3 of 6]  Shabibi made it very clear that within the few coming days. That definition…you have to expand it. Over there that doesn’t mean “in a few coming days” like it does here. What’s after days? Weeks. Good. With that said, and with what has happened over the weekend between the GOI and CBI and the CBI being pleased about it;  Let us know see if Shabibi comes back out into the lime-light. The ball is in the court of the Parliament, the GOI. Now today Maliki’s confidence is renewed, how do they go from hot and cold so quickly? Then Shabibi  hears what happens and says ok, you know what…I reaffirm and re-promise that we are moving forward with revaluing our currency.  ["continued in post 4...stay tuned"]
4-25-2012  Intel Guru BellaGrits   what we give in here is what our intel provides us; consequently, we feel we have top rated INTEL…to the best of our knowledge, the 3 letter agencies have completed their jobs, all countries have signed off, we are merely awaiting the banking process…OUR POSITION IS BETTER THAN IT’S EVER BEEN…we expect it ANYTIME…WE HAVE TOLD YOU TO EXPECT $4 – $6.
4-25-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg   NO DELAY JUST LOTS TO DO AND A MOVING TARGET AS ECONOMIES CHANGE DAILY…TIMING IS ALWAYS THE ISSUE…THIS SHOULD SHOW ANY MINUTE…BUT…We all know the ptb can stall it…the release is on a timer as all the rest is done.
4-25-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana   first the bad news – no RV announced yet…here’s where we are…Iraq meeting with Kuwait. NICE! Changes in the data the CBI posted. DOUBLE NICE! Iraq officially dropped the intention of “removing the 0′s by September”. I LOVE IT!   Chapter 7 and HCL still not done. Bummer. The absolute most positive thing I can take from those items is the fact that 3 of the 5 are DONE, and the other 2 are NEXT UP. It’s not a matter of ‘if”, it’s a matter of “when”…unfortunately, it’s very uncertain how “soon” this will happen.   ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]
4-25-2012  Newshound Guru Doc  [Post 2 of 2]   There was not a lot of new information published in the last few days.  The Kuwaitis are still singing Iraq’s praises which leads us to believe chapter 7 release will happen in June at the next UNSC meeting.  The only significant piece of information was Shabibi now saying the LD (new currency) would be out beginning January 2013.  Originally he had said September 2012.  This very easily could be in response to the GOI’s request to delay the lifting of the zeros project.  It does appear Shabibi is trying to work with the GOI.  However, there will come a point he will have no choice but to act if the GOI doesn’t get it together.  Based on the information we have currently we are still maintaining chapter 7 release in June with a RV in June to September.  The initial rate could be below $1 but we believe the plan is to work it to $1 in the near term.  We report, you decide.


4-25-2012  Intel Guru Frank26  [Post 2 of 6]  who’s pushing Shabibi…we are, the USA…we are working with Shabibi to create the monetary reform…Shabibi is pushing the GOI and Maliki because he is standing there waiting to do this…they have no idea what they are doing. They are a fledgling democracy. One cannot expect things overnight. Shabibi is working with the Authors of the Plan to make sure the monetary reform comes out perfect. To make sure that it comes out perfect is to make sure that the CBI and GOI are in coordination. We are seeing this evidence. Last month we see this literally in headlines. There is great coordination between the two of them now. ["continued in post 3...stay tuned"]
4-25-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   [Post 1 of 3]  Parliament sources reported that the chapter VII removal is right around the corner, due to the return of bilateral relations between Iraq and Kuwait. This progress is what will lead to Iraq returning to the international environment and regaining their full sovereignty. We speculate that the UN Security Council will not release them until they raise their exchange rate. Although that is not a direct stipulation, it is a bargaining chip they use when diplomatic measures fail and one that is on our side.   ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]
4-25-2012  Intel Guru BellaGrits    I don’t know about you guys, but this comment from the IRAQI NEWSPAPER is alluding to trading internationally…spells FOREX to me: JMO, but take a look…Great News ~ Iraq Central Bank confirms the abandonment of an auction sale of foreign currency !!! Central Bank announced today that his quest for the transfer of an auction sale of foreign currency (dollar) government to a commercial bank, saying the auction is not within its terms of reference. The deputy governor of Bank of the appearance of Mohammed that “It is time for an auction sale of currency out of the central bank, and shall state that a commercial bank, Vmzad sell the currency does not fall within the competence of the Central Bank of Iraq.”  I am looking at today…nothing negative…all positive news.
4-25-2012  Intel Guru BWM   I must admit that I’m a bit frustrated today on several counts…first, there WAS a lot of info pointing to “watching” last night for possible activity and here we are again still looking…but again this was to “watch” with no guarantees…it would be easier if so many did not repeat everything they hear, in my opinion…info is ALL over the place…so as soon as I get a good grip on something I feel comfortable repeating…I’ll let you know..I’m not looking today during banking hours at the moment from everything coming in…but…we’ve seen things change.
4-25-2012  Intel Guru BGG   I don’t see that foreign currency auction as “not selling Dinar” – it is in Iraq, they aren’t selling “foreign currency” (meaning – not their own)…it was referring to DOLLARS!! …sounds like the CBI is looking to de-dollarize the market – GREAT!!
4-25-2012  Newshound Guru Doc  [Post 1 of 2]  the bank rate rumors being propagated currently have been and continue to be hocus pocus.  This was based on the fact our banking experts informed us that what is being reported…IS NOT the way an RV would be disseminated to the banks.  When the CBI changes the rate in the system it will be updated to banks world-wide in less than seconds.  There are no “to be released later” or “computer glitch” scenarios.  If there was this information would be known by the markets before us and the dinar would be priced in the market accordingly.  ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]
4-25-2012  Intel Guru Bear5642   THE CBI SUSPENDED THE AUCTION OF FOREIGN CURRENCY, THAT IS HUGE.  THE CBI HAS JUST MADE A MAJOR MOVE AND HAVE GIVEN NO CHOICE BUT TO USE THE IQD.  WITHOUT US DOLLAR TO TRADE WITH THEY WILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE IQD.  IRAQ IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR AN RV,  THEY NEED THE BLOCKS TO COME INTO AGREEMENT AND LET IT HAPPEN AND THAT IS GREAT NEWS.  IT WILL RV AND I FEEL SOON.
4-25-2012  Intel Guru Delta  [Post 1 of 2]   there was a big meeting; it’s a big deal in Iraq. Every other day there are big meetings behind closed doors with the Financial Committees. Remember there is a Financial Advisory committee of Parliament and the Cabinet Financial Advisory committee also Shabibi is on the board. There is a lot of pressure to do something right now…they have promised that they are going to do something to increase the dinar’s value. There is a lot of talk on TV about this.  Iraq cannot continue to wait to do this…based on all Intel right now we might see something this week. 
4-25-2012  Intel Guru Frank26  [Post 1 of 6]   Do you believe that…the GOI is going to force, by law, the CBI to become a part of the GOI so that they can then control the CBI and the countries monies and not allow them to raise the value of the currency? NO.   Do you know why?…the National Alliance imposed conditions against Maliki to keep it on the Prime Minister’s seat. What does that mean? Basically this is saying that the most prominent conditions are not to be linked with the Central government and not to allow for interference with the work attempting to be accomplished. This is the government saying guys, leave Shabibi alone and do not interfere with his work. Maliki has agreed with all conditions.  ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]
4-25-2012  Newshound Guru Med   [Post 4 of 4]   ACCORDING TO SHABIBI HE DOES NOT ANSWER TO THE GOI…HE IS RESPONSIBLE TO DISCUSS WITH PARLIAMENT BUT NOT ASK FOR APPROVAL.  I WAS WAITING FOR A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT FROM HIM HE KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT SINCE SEPT 2011.  WHEN HE CAME OUT BRIEFLY… HE ANSWERED THE ?’S HONESTLY AND DID NOT GIVE AN INCH EVEN WITH ALL THE MEDIA LEAKS ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED HIM GONE AND HE WAS NOT A FIT ANYMORE, THIS MAN HAS NERVES OF STEEL…IN THE US MANY MEN WOULD HAVE FOLDED BUT HE DID NOT.
4-25-2012  Intel Guru DinarWishes   This morning I have received some news we may be Very Close to seeing what we all want…It is a real and breathing thing…The RV will be here soon and there are some things Im being told that need completing…once I get word its done Ill let you all know as soon as I can…No Hype just News…the Overseas banks have it on the same level of screens there that the Banks have here and they dont understand why it hasnt shown yet…I am being instructed to expect a rate between 6-12 dollars.



OKIEOILMAN POST EVENING, 25 APRIL



BULLDOG75: PLEASE HOLD. OKIE IS COMING IN FOR A SHORT POST. ALL INFO IS GOOD. PLEASE HOLD.

OKIEOILMAN: OK GUYS STILL GETTING MULTIPLE CONFIRMATIONS--NOW THE BANKS HAS REQUESTED THEY HAVE AT LEAST 1 DAY TO SHAKE THINGS OUT AND MAKE IMMEDIATE PREPARATIONS TOMORROW AND REQUEST THAT WE WAIT TILL THURSDAY FOR THE RUSH ON THE BANK--I PERSONALLY FEEL THIS IS A REASONABLE REQUEST ON THEIR PART. THEY ALSO REQUESTED WE PLEASE DON'T START BOMBARDING THEM WITH PHONE CALLS TOMORROW.

BULLDOG75: MOREEAGLES; IT WILL COME TO US. NO NEED TO LOOK TOO FAR.

OKIEOILMAN: TAKE OVER BULLDOG--I AM GONE

BULLDOG75: WE THANK OUR HEAVENLY FATHER FOR YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SENDS OUR MANNA FROM HEAVEN. WE THANK YOU DEAR GOD IN ADVANCE KNOWING THAT OUR PROSPERITY AND BLESSINGS FLOWS LIKE HONEY TO RE-VITALIZE OUR HOMES, FINANCES AND ECONOMY. WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED TO BE HERE. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IN YOUR NAME. WE THANK YOU DEAR FATHER IN ADVANCE. AMEN. FOR THIS IS SO. AMEN.

BULLDOG75: MUSTANGSALLY; ALL MEMBERS; ALL DETAILS WILL COME FORTH WITH THE RATE POSTING. TYVM.

BULLDOG75: OKIE AND I AND MODS JUST LOVE ALL U WONDERFUL PEOPLE. THANKS FOR BEING HERE ON THIS BLESSED JOURNEY.

BULLDOG75: 
JAVABEAN; ALL DETAILS WILL COME OUT WITH THE RATE POST & DETAILS ALONGSIDE TOGETHER.. TY.

BULLDOG75: 
MAMA SIMON CAT TEXAS OKIEGROUP DUMBEST CALIFBOBO HYMNBORN JAVABEAN PIRATESMOM HIGHERGROUND MAMABIRD; SEE YOU ALL . TYVM.

BULLDOG75: BARB CRAWDADDY CONFUSED AURORA GJAX OKIEGRUPIE : I THINK IT S BEDTIME. WE ALL NEED SOME SOLID SLEEP.

PTR CALL , 25 APRIL


Replay number 760-569-7699 pin 141898

Freeconference call playback   Link
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CALL NOTES

Dan Starting / PTR

not much different

he's a little frustrated

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arrests will tell you the RV progress.......dinarland will not give you intel about that so you won't have the full picture unless you look at that

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Tony: there are still good reasons for it happen today
should've happened, but it didn't YET

...got a call..."they're still sitting there, waiting for it"

FDIC thing: audits for ea. state and the time fram e  it took; had to be accountability befr RV...if it's to be FDIC insured...

they needed to see what they're insuring

one more step we weren't aware of

made sense>anthr level we didn't know had to be done

it's the last thing; grn lights across the board

heard there's a timeframe put on it

Gary's in CA to put a handle on a few things; we're really analyzing things; Dan, Tony & Gary; how close are we; know the financial inst are saying we're close; some of them telling people to hang on tight; we keep reminding ourselves; are we trying to hype this thing? no, but we want to make sense of this , so there's not dispair; talked to Dr. Todd today and other financial peeps

at this point: all saying all players here in U.S. now and almost on top of it

I came to CA to sit down to get a handle on this thing, and deal with some issues

Dan: we haven't sat down togthr for a long time, and today was one of those days

frustrated hearing it's done

waiting to hear it's really over with

hearing fr the industry , diff govt powers and others that it's finally run its course

banking industrys some don't make sense

consistently heard fr "F " bank that its done

back screens, and other entities tied to that bank we hear so frequently that it's done

u start to get discouraged

always hearing it's over, there's a big mtg from the banking industry>I do believe the bankers reall;y do believe it 's over

they're calling their people in at the banks, flying people around; how do people of that caliber be wrong every day;

not what we want to hear...honestly, I think that's where we are

just hearing it prematurely

not bad news;

T: wht you're saying is "that's reality>that final tick"

I got a call tonight>fr banker official>I asked him about a big mtg>he hadn't heard so he checked>it was a corporate mtg , not branch level

it's still ongoing is what he said

re??? Shabs, Legarde??? ust related??? we don't know

banks reaching their limit: lost more than they can afford to lose

things going on here & in Iraq; could be concluded in next 6 hrs or by tomorrow

I can feel it, that it's over...

they act like it's Christmas time

but then 5:00 comes and it doesn't show up

I think we're in a good place>I'm still hearing it; in CA, they're still saying they're waiting for it to happen

D: how valid is it when we hear that so many times

for some quite discouraging

can't put common sense to it; seems like we're at the end with all the changing intel

talking to the mods is almost a joke anymore

wife says my IQ going down...chuckle

Tony: ur absolutely correct, but we could be here happening all this stuff, or we could hear it's over ...it was all a ruse, a joke

when I hear that, it's going to be a bad day

so let's take this good day and inch closer

even a snail could see the finish line

when I get a call like I got, that we're that close...there's still hope

banking, Iraqi people and others frustrated that it didn't happen a n  hour ago, yet it is goooooing to happen

will look in the morning, and at 3-5

JONNY & BELLAGRITS CHAT PART 3, 25 APRIL


[jackL1] How soon after RV do you thnk we will see Tax Liabilty Info?

[.jonnywg] jackL1 IMO A FEW DAYS

 [dab63] Do you recommend Ever Bank? Recently read they didn't have a good rating

[.jonnywg] CHECK WITH THE PRO'S

[BellaGrits] dab63 WE CANNOT MAKE RECOMENDATIONS, SORRY

 [broncofan] .jonnywg why do you not include Iraq in your PTB explanation?

[.jonnywg] broncofan IRAQ WAS A PTB BUT NO LONGER

  [tigerbobby] Is the Banker still coming on?

[BellaGrits] tigerbobby YES, WE EXPECT HIM TO UNLESS HIS EMERGENCY MEETING INTERFERES

[.jonnywg] tigerbobby THE BANKER IS STILL IN A MANDATORY MEETING ....... WE WILL BRING HIM IN TOMORROW

 [gwalls] Will being signed up in one of the cash in groups like yours or Studleys guarantee big rate if we get to a bank quick and are on a groups list?
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[BellaGrits] gwalls BEING IN A GROUP DOES INCREASE YOUR SELLING POWER...AS IN $$$ RATE

  [dmmmd] if one has to fly for exchange, is it safe to carry on your dinars in yur opinion? any special precautions?

[BellaGrits] dmmmd CHECK IN WITH SECURITY FOR SURE PRIOR TO WALKING THRU THE AIRPORT

 [BlackeyedP] What about PP's and Global Settlements? Any news on these?

 [.jonnywg] BlackeyedP 20-30 PP'S DELIVERED ......MORE TODAY

 [vic406] Jonny it seems the bottom line is were on the edge.Has the reconciliation been finished and or how long till published

[.jonnywg] vic406EVERYTHING IS DONE THAT WE KNOW OF.......... WE WAIT FOR PUBLISHING

 [goddess] Will you be giving out more investment information after the RV such as the info on these currency funds?

[BellaGrits] goddess ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL BE HERE POST RV TO ASSIST YOU

 [jjmyles] BellaGrits Thanks for all the Intel and hard work that you and jonnywg have provided. I am greatfull and have learned a tremendous amount of World knowledge.

[BellaGrits] jjmyles THANK YOU SO MUCH...VERY KIND OF YOU

 [ready4bank] I stopped by the WF branch in area that does foriegn exchange today. They still gave me the same line, WF will not be exchanging Iraq Dinar at any point in the future. How do I know what bank to go to?

[BellaGrits] ready4bank THEY WILL, NO WORRIES...GO TO ANOTHER BRANCH...POST RV COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK

 [TradJr] IYO Will the banks be fully ready by Thursday? Do you think they would need any more time than they have now?

[BellaGrits] TradJr THEY ARE READY TODAY IMO

 [.jonnywg] 5 MORE MINUTES

 [aai2on] I heard of long lines at 2 of the WF in El Paso. Is there any chance the RV happened and we weren't informed?

[BellaGrits] aai2on NONE AT ALL--NOONE HAS CASHED IN

 [diesel09] Does the CBI stopping currency trading today have anything to do with this and is that a good sign. Your thoughts?

[.jonnywg] diesel09 THIS IS A GREAT SIGN,,,,,,,,,,,BELLA POSTED IT THIS AM............ NOW TRADES ON FOREX

 [waitingpatiently] Jonnywg, Bella a little monkey named Bernie told me to tell both of you your bungalo's in Costa Rica are ready and well stocked with Casique and Bananans, enjoy

[BellaGrits] waitingpatiently SWEET!!!! NICE TO KNOW!! :bliss:

 [SandJ] So is it safe to say that Okie, BD and you guys are on same page with differant Intel

[BellaGrits] SandJ I WOULDN'T SAY THAT....?

 [Dragn] Johnny/Bella My reserve expires midnight tomorrow. Any chance I could experience a bit of luck for the 1st time in my life? 10%, 20%, 50%, 70% chance?

[.jonnywg] Dragn 50/50

 [herenow] Will the dealers get a 30 minute notice? And since it is now on a timer, how will the dealers be able to get their notice?

[.jonnywg] herenow DEALERS ARE CONNECTED TO IRAQ AND THE PRICE WILL CHANGE ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE

 [AZchef] Hello jonny and Bella! First I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you do! I just want to say I respect you for that! Thanks

[BellaGrits] AZchef THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT....GLAD TO HELP ALL OF YOU WHEN/IF WE CAN.

 [12GRP] Jonnywg or BellaGits: We have been SOOOOO Close before-What makes EITHER of you CONFIDENT that we are FINALLY standing at the gate? TYVM!!!

BellaGrits] 12GRP AS STATED BEFORE, THINGS HAVE NEVER LINED UP AS WELL AS THIS REGARDING OUR INTEL.....EVRYONE (3 LETTTER AGENCIES AND GOV) HAS SIGNED OFF...AWESOME

 [wclogr] BellaGrits & jonnywg, you guys are tops in my book, thx for all you do!

 [.jonnywg] wclogr TX

[BellaGrits] wclogr THANK YOU

[BellaGrits] THAT'S IT, PEEPS...HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!

[.jonnywg] THANKS A LOT MY FRIENDS WE ARE NOW COMPLETED

JONNY & BELLAGRITS CHAT PART 2, 25 APRIL


redstickmawmaw] Do you have any knowledge as to whether Whitney/Hancock is willing to negotiate rate?

[.jonnywg] redstickmawmaw NO KNOWLEGE

 [MR808] .jonnywg BellaGrits will we be able to lock in rate with banks if we dont live on the mainland and have to travel

[BellaGrits] MR808 IT'S WORTH A SHOT TO ASK....WHY NOT...NEGOTIATE--- GET READY TO LEARN HOW TO NEGOTIATE

 [pokerplyr] .jonnywg Did someone hit the snooze button on that timer? lol

BellaGrits] pokerplyr LOL GOOD ONE....

  [doghouse1] Do you when the timer started and how long it has to wind down??

[BellaGrits] doghouse1 UNABLE TO ANSWER THAT WITH ANY SPECIFICS....

 [hawaii50] .jonnywg : Are the banks expecting us to cash in this week?

[.jonnywg] hawaii50 THE BANKS ARE READY
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[LINDEEE] BellaGrits .jonnywg ,.....so the RV is on a timer...BUT, from 2 to 3 minutes to its going off, rates can change. Then what? Seems like everything will start all over again because it appears virtually impossible to have everyone on the same page. Is this true?

[BellaGrits] LINDEEE THAT 2-3 MINUTES WAS USED PRIOR TO THE RELEASE OF THE RV....IMF HAD THAT DECISION

[.jonnywg] NOTE OUR BANKER WAS CALLED IN TO A MANDATORY EMERGENCY MEETING........ WE HOPE HE IS HERE SOON

[BellaGrits] .jonnywg WOOHOO

  [queenmum] Is there intel going out now or being released that will delay the RV showing in any way? TY

[BellaGrits] queenmum NO, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEGATIVE-- ON THE CONTRARY, ALL POSITIVE.....

 [stealthworks] Will we be mailed bank packages if we are signed up? Or will it be posted on both sites

[.jonnywg] stealthworks PACKAGES WILL BE ON BOTH SITES

 [RCM] Bella if we are just waiting on banks to release it..what does it matter anymore about articles from Iraq or the Erbil or NC?

BellaGrits] RCM IT DOESN'T...BUT THE ARTICLE REGARDING THE AUCTIONS WAS SUH-WEEET!

 [Gabby1] .jonnywg and Bellagrits, is this site your new home?

[.jonnywg] Gabby1 THESITE THING IS DELICATE ............

[19rue] Since last week we have been hearing ASN, AMN, so, has anything changed since last week and if so, what?

 [BellaGrits] 19rue THERE WERE A FEW OBSTACLES THAT INTERFERED...TO OUR BEST KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE A FREE RUNWAY NOW!

 [4Shore] Who determines our rate? UST? CBI? Thx!

[BellaGrits] 4Shore IT'S A NEGOTIATING PROCESS WITH THE IMF, THE COUNTRY, UST....

 [doghouse1] Do you know if the banks in Hawaii will cashin (there are no big 4 there) can we take package there to negoiate or is it better to come to mainland??

 [BellaGrits] doghouse1 YES, WE WILL PROVIDE 3 BANKS THAT WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE RV CASHOUT

 [Cyndee49] Will U S D RV too

jonnywg] Cyndee49 USD MAY RV OR DV........ NOONE KNOWS

 [luap] there is a buildup of hope every midweek. what makes this more absolute than every week thus far?

[BellaGrits] luap THE INTEL....THE PROGRESS....MANY THINGS ARE DIFFERENT THIS WEEK...WE CAN ONLY HOPE WE ARE RIGHT....DO THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN ON 4 HRS SLEEP

 [highcotton] Jonny and/or Bella, Will mainstream media ever hear about the arrests that have been made concerning this?

[.jonnywg] highcotton THEY ARE PUBLISHED EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD BUT THE USA

 [texascamper] Jonnwg Since Iraq is 8 hours ahead of the USA will RV occur during Iraq's normal business hours

[.jonnywg] texascamper NOONE KNOWS CB ANYTIME

 [jjwaynec] Jonny and Bella if it is on a timer how will the dinar traders know when to change selling price?

 [BellaGrits] jjwaynec TRUST ME, THEY WILL BE ALERTED BY THE CBI AS SOON AS THE RATES CHG

 [gwalls] Jonny and Bella are there any risks you know of in cashing out with Dinartrade?

[BellaGrits] highcotton NOT THAT I AM AWARE

jonnywg] gwalls NOT THAT WE KNOW OF ..........HE LEFT THE BUSINESS AND IS JUS REENTERING AND WILL START OUT VERY SMALL AS TO A TRUST LEVEL

 [highcotton] Will negotiable rates for VND be included in bank packages?

[BellaGrits] highcotton YOUR TOTAL DEPOSIT CAN BE NEGOTIABLE

 [ready4bank] How long will we have to cashin at high rate?

[BellaGrits] ready4bank WE CANNOT BE CERTAIN UNTIL POST RV

  [justchecking] Will the rate stay the same for a period of time or drop rather quickly after the revalue takes place?

[BellaGrits] justchecking IMO, THE RATE WILL DROP AFTER A SHORT PERIOD....WHAT THAT PERIOD THAT IS, WE DO NOT KNOW AT THIS TIME

  [sambeaux] Hey Johnnywg, do you know anything about the prosperity programs? TY

[.jonnywg] sambeaux YES WE WERE TOLD 20-30 WERE CASHED IN AND THE BALANCE SB DELIVERED TODAY/ TOMORROW

  [SALTYDOG] Jonny Does Wells Fargo offer foreign currency accounts

 [BellaGrits] SALTYDOG IN THEIR ABOTT DOWNING DIVISION THEY DO

 [redstickmawmaw] .jonnywg Do you know anything as to whether Whitney will be negotiable?

[BellaGrits] redstickmawmaw MUST SPEAK WITH THEM

 [chillimac] BellaGrits -double digets, for some

[BellaGrits] chillimac IT WAS A JOKE....

 [hollyberry] If the powers that be own BofA, Chase, WF, Citibank how exactly is our money safe? Aren't they the bad guys? Just wondering

[.jonnywg] hollyberry INSURED BY FDIC AND PUT IT IN OTHER CURRENCIES

 [jjmyles] .jonnywg Based on the current World Economic Status, I am a litle perplexed that this has been allowed to continue with out an RV of so many countries. They are making this harder than it should, IMHO of cousre. What are your thoughts on this progress and how the world leaders are handling this even

[BellaGrits] jjmyles I AM AS PERPLEXED AS YOU.....I DO KNOW SOME THINGS I AM NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES I CANNOT PLACE IN A CHATROOM

 [daddy2] jonnywg or Bella - if nobody knows what the rate is, then why do we keep getting assurnaces of high rates and/or specific rates?

[BellaGrits] daddy2 WE HAVE TOLD YOU TO EXPECT $4 - $6...... ANYTHING HIGHER, PLEASE BE HAPPY

 [redstickmawmaw] hello Does anyone know whether Whitney Bank will be negotiating on rates?

 [.jonnywg] redstickmawmaw NOT KNOWN ON WHITNEY

 [gsi3000] Can I ask what is the norm of dinar held by joe public in the states, Where we work in ME it is in abundance to buy and have to limit what we spend (to easy to spend over what we really need) ty

[BellaGrits] gsi3000 WE UNDERSTAND 250K

 [1biz4u] If this is on a timer,can it still be stopped?? Or does it have a definite time to pop??

[BellaGrits] 1biz4u WE ASSUME IT HAS A TIME TO POP...ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS YOU KNOW IN THIS INVESTMENT...

 [paymenow] BellaG or Jonny, so will everyone have fees, we just have to search for the best deal and the lowest fees, is that correct?

[.jonnywg] paymenow EVERYONE WILL HAVE FEES............ NEGOTIATE

 [bethere] BellaGrits...so just get a clear picture as to how the process looks as of today...Are we at the point to where we are only awaiting the Banking System (FDIC/UST/BIS) to release the rates or has this been accomplished and we are just waiting on the lower level banking system to release the rates?

 BellaGrits] bethere BIS IS OUT OF THE EQUATION..... WE ARE AWAITING THE BANKING SYSTEM TO RELEASE TO TELLER SCREENS AND THE IQD IS ON A "TBA" TO BE ANNOUNCED STATUS....FIRST TIME IN BANKING HISTORY WE HAVE THAT!

  [jjmyles] BellaGrits Do the powers of the World realize that there will never be a perfect time to Impliment the process so badly needed?

[.jonnywg] jjmyles YES THEY KNOW THIS

 [Dreamer] Jonnywg thanks for your posts. Is this in the hands of the commercial entities from last week?

[.jonnywg] Dreamer IT APPEARS COMMERCIAL ENTITIES ARE COMPLETED

 [glyn] So if it RV'ed on Friday then there is no way this can not happen within the next couple of days. Am I reading that right? Is it just down to the banks at this time?

[.jonnywg] glyn WE THINK SO

  [pulaski] .jonnywg Do you feel that we should keep our money "liquid" and in the other currencies that you suggest for 6 months or so before tying it up in funds and such?

 [BellaGrits] pulaski YES AND MONEY MARKETS

JONNY & BELLAGRITS CHAT PART 1, 25 APRIL

[.jonnywg] Hi there ........I expect that we will be having a great day today .......... we will be live on moderated chat in a few minute ABOUT 3:45 AND THE " BANKER WILL COME IN AT 4:30 EST..................... THERE WILL BE MUCH TO TALK ABOUT................. SO STRAP YOURSELF IN

[.jonnywg] SLOL I WILL SHUT PHONE OFF............ THE BANKER WILL BE HERE AT 4:30 EST BUT WE WILL START NOW

[..SweetQueen] OKAY WE ARE READY TO BEGIN NOW, PLEASE QUESTIONS TO JONNYWG AND BELLAGRITS

[ready4bank] if the banks need an extra day, does that mean cashin will always be an extra day from the time the RV goes live? ty

[.jonnywg] ready4bank NOT NECESSARILY

[justchecking] After the revalue, will all branches deal with cashout, or just bigger cities? 

[BellaGrits] justchecking MOST BANKS IN THE US WILL DEAL WITH CASHOUT

.jonnywg] justchecking ANDTHE SMALLER ONES WILL USE A BIG BANK FOR CLEARING

[candy] Does Iraq have to RV prior to being released from chapter 7?

 [BellaGrits] candy YES, THEY DO

 [mountainman] Jonny do you still feel this is our day and if so is the banker going to tell us about cash out procedures ?

[BellaGrits] mountainman JONNY HAD TO STEP AWAY FOR A SEC....HOWEVER, HE DOES FEEL WE ARE IN A VERY GREAT POSITION TODAY....THE BANKER WILL ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS REGARDING BANKING.

[jjwaynec] Jonnywg in your opinion when will this show? Just looking for guess. Thank you all.

[.jonnywg] jjwaynec THIS SHOULD SHOW ANYMINUTE.............. BUT.............. WE ALL KNOW THE PTB CAN STALL IT

[blessedinohio] I have to ask this-your thoughts on Okie's intel vs. that other wingman Be*r who is stirring up discention. Are we kidding ourselves thinking this is close? I don't want to be one of those people who only listen to those saying what I want to hear. I just want the real scoop... 

[BellaGrits] blessedinohio WHAT WE GIVE IN HERE IS WHAT OUR INTEL PROVIDES US; CONSEQUENTLY, WE FEEL WE HAVE TOP RATED INTEL... WE DO NOT SUPPORT INTEL PROVIDERS WHO CALL IT EVERYDAY.

[.Gracious] .jonnywg Is the RV delayed..if so why?

[.jonnywg] .Gracious .Gracious NO DELAY JUST LOTS TO DO AND A MOVING TARGET AS ECONOMIES CHANGE DAILY

[jwin] .jonnywg Canadian cash-in banks ?

[.jonnywg] jwin NONE

[.jonnywg] .Gracious .Gracious NO DELAY JUST LOTS TO DO AND A MOVING TARGET AS ECONOMIES CHANGE DAILY

[cheesehead] Iphone - Jonnywg, How many pair of depends do I need... 1 for an RV rate from 4-8, 2 for an RV rate from 9-15, or 3+ for an RV rate 16 and above...

[.jonnywg] cheesehead BUY A SKID............ IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

[businessasusual] .jonnywg..... Do you still absolutely, positively, 100% without a doubt stand by your word that you will be in Texas on or before April 30th, 2012?

[.jonnywg] businessasusual I HAVE TICKETS BUT YOU NEVER KNOW ....... I MAY BE IN RENO

[.jonnywg] OR ATLANTA OR HAWAII

[squeakster] .jonnywg - did your information agree will Okie's last night?

[BellaGrits] squeakster NO, IT DID NOT

[hawaii50] .Jonnywg and BellaGrits: What can you tell us, please?

[BellaGrits] hawaii50 HELLO OUR POSITION IS BETTER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN....

 [okrocks] .jonnywg So hoping the button will be pushed during this chat.. Do you think there is a chance of that or not? thank you :)

 [hootie123] Is the rate live on the front teller screens? If so, what is the rate?

 [BellaGrits] hootie123 NO, NOT AT THIS TIME....HOWEVER, WE EXPECT IT ANYTIME.... NOONE KNOWS THE RATE.

jonnywg] okrocks THE ODDS ARE GOOD BUT NOT GUARRANTEED.................. TIMING IS ALWAYS THE ISSUE..................... THIS IS OUR TIME

[flameon] Johnny or Bella do you feel enough obstacles in the form of bad guy ploys have been removed so we can reasonably expect an "RV" soon?

[.jonnywg] flameon THERE ARE NEVER ENOUGH ARRESTS OF BAD GUYS AND YES THEY ARE A FACTOR AND YES THERE WERE MORE ARRESTS YESTERDAY

[LordPeterWimsey] Question to Jonnywg: What news do have that is so exciting that we need to strap ourselves in ?

[.jonnywg] LordPeterWimsey IT IS AN EXPRESSION AS YOU WILL LEARN THE CURRENT POSITION............. ALSO THE BANKER IS COMING

[sailman] Jonny --- do we have ANYTHING at all organized for CANADAIN banks (some fo us are trying -- not much success Nation Wide)

[BellaGrits] sailman NO, HE DOES NOT AT THIS TIME

[draavmorris2] jonnywg and bellagrits and sweet queen, just want to say thank you, to each and everyone of you for all that you do for us. You have all been a blessing to us 

[Chanan] yho which will pop first - the banks, forex or cbi?

[BellaGrits] Chanan IMO, IT WILL SHOW ON THE BANKS.....

[rvers] If the banks want an extra day doenst that give people a chance to buy extra dinar. I thought they didn't want that to happen!

BellaGrits] rvers THAT WASN'T A STATEMENT MADE BY THIS SITE

[ddgrandma] When and where will we find your bank packages?

[.jonnywg] ddgrandma THIS SITE, THE FORUMS, THE BANKS WEB SITES

 [ontime] We understand there is a possibility the banks will schedule 24/7 after the RV. If this is the case, and the bank is not normally open at the hour of RV, will they open immediately or will the 24/7 begin with the next business day?

BellaGrits] ontime IT IS MY ASSUMPTION THEY WILL OPEN THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY, AND YES, I HAVE PERSONALLY SPOKEN WITH BANKS THAT WILL BE OPEN 24/7 POST RV

[draavmorris2] and when the rate does show, will be know what the ust rate and the cbi rate is as well, so that we will know what we are working with, with regards to negotiating rate? And thank you 

[.jonnywg] draavmorris2 draavmorris2 NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WILL BE POSTED UNTIL IT HAPPENS

[gardener] Can you explain the difference between you cash out program, and the one Studley has put together. 

[BellaGrits] gardener NO, I CANNOT. YOU MAY WISH TO SPEAK WITH STUDLEY REGARDING HIS PACKAGE

[jmtusa] What is the 2 p.m. update?

[.jonnywg] goddess INTERNATIONAL CURRENCIES UPDATE AT 2 PM CENTRAL

[goddess] Are we going to see the RV today?

[BellaGrits] goddess WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE RV TODAY

[jazzergirl] Are bank packages ready to go?

[BellaGrits] jazzergirl YES, WITHIN MINUTES OF THE RV THEY WILL BE RELEASED

[quisnard] BellaGrits Do you know what banks will deal with Currency Exchange in Hawaii?

[.jonnywg] quisnard CURRENCY EXCHANGE WILL DEAL WITH ALL CURRENCIES THAT THEIR COMPANY WILL ALLOW 

[massman1] Can we get an update as to where things stand?

[BellaGrits] massman1 TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE 3 LETTER AGENCIES HAVE COMPLETED THEIR JOBS, ALL COUNTRIES HAVE SIGNED OFF, WE ARE MERELY AWAITING THE BANKING PROCESS.

 [vic406] jonny any yhoughts on why we have not seen a live active rate as all have said would be today 

[.jonnywg] vic406 THE RELEASE IS ON A TIMER AS ALL THE REST IS DONE

[.dblbrl] .jonnywg will we go through another weekend without having our live rv?

[.jonnywg] .dblbrl WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT

[LINDEEE] .JONNYWG, BELLAGRITS.....are we expecting this rv today? tomorrow? when? Do you know?

[BellaGrits] LINDEEE PRAY....WE DO NOT KNOW.... WE EXPECT IT ANYTIME...

 [goddess] Is it true that there were people blocking the RV again and that has been resolved now?

[.jonnywg] goddess NOONE IS BLOCKING IT ......................PATIENCE IS NEEDED

 [shala] Do you have confirmed intel that says the RV actually occured Friday and will show at the banks any minute/this week?

[BellaGrits] shala BASED ON OUR INTEL, YES WE DO.....

[BellaGrits] shala BASED ON OUR INTEL, WE DO FEEL THIS IS OUR CURRENT STATUS

[HUNTRESS] if there are x amount of other countries WAITING to RV, why is it necessary to basically put Iraq in charge of it.

[BellaGrits] HUNTRESS WHO SAID IRAQ WAS IN CHARGE OF IT? IT AFFECTS THE BALANCE SHEET OF ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES

[daniandquin] .jonnywg you said "THE RELEASE IS ON A TIMER AS ALL THE REST IS DONE"... can you clarify exactly what this means?

[.jonnywg] daniandquin BASICALLY AS STATED

[dwg14] .jonnywg is it real this time ? so many false starts

[.jonnywg] dwg14 WHEN IT POSTS A LIVE RV RATE THEN IT IS REAL .............. 

[draavmorris2] also, i forgot will we know what the cbi rate is as well, or will these rates come down separately, in their own time. Again, thank you. 

BellaGrits] draavmorris2 IT COULD HAPPEN EITHER WAY..... IT COULD SHOW CBI FIRST; WE CAN'T BE SURE....OR NOT AT ALL

[bigskipper] Hi Jonny and Bella. In your opinion have there been developments yesterday and today that have us close to the RV?

[BellaGrits] bigskipper ALL 3 LETTER AGENCIES HAVE SIGNED OFF

[Bluestar101] Do you have any info on HSBC for international holders?

[.jonnywg] Bluestar101 HSBC IS A LARGE INTERNATIONAL AS IS WELLS FARGO ....BOTH ARE RECOMMENDED

[LivingInGodsCountry] What other data and instructions are you expecting with the R/V?

BellaGrits] LivingInGodsCountry WE SHALL SEE...THEY ALL COME WITH RULES/INSTRUCTIONS

 [highcotton] Jonny can you tell us if rate is in double digits?

[BellaGrits] highcotton highcotton FOR SOME lol

[Capt Crunch] How does the soverign debt of Spain , with 3 major banks in Spain carrying SPain's debt, should Spain become another Greece, or even just the threat of Spain becoming like Greece, do you see this problem pushing the IMF to force this rv any faster?

[.jonnywg] Capt Crunch SPAIN IS IN CRISIS MODE AND MUST BE RSOLVED SOON........ ANOTHER ITALY

[RCM] Jonny Do you think Maliki will enact the Erbil Agreement now?

[BellaGrits] RCM NON-ISSUE...ERBIL HAS BEEN COMPLETED REGARDLESS IF THEY SHOW PUBLICLY OR NOT

 [gsi3000] Hi jonnwg/bella, I will need to fly back to the UK from the middle east to cash in(thats where the stash is) what are the cast iron places to look at to verify live rate for common people with only internet and online bank sites to check TYVVM

[.jonnywg] gsi3000 FOREX....... CBI, LONDON STOCK EXCHANGE

[shar35] jonnywg - where do we sit on the progress? Are the verifications by the commercial entities complete? and any problems resolved? Do you have any confirmation that the final codes have been received by the banks yet?

[BellaGrits] shar35 THE VERIFICATIONS BY COMM ENTITIES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, AS THE FDIC HAS COMPLETED THE INSURANCE OF ALL BANKS IN THE US.....APPEARS TO BE NOTHING LEFT TO DO-- THEREFORE WE PERCEIVE THIS AS A TIMING ISSUE

[highcotton] Bella Grits, will rate be in double digits?

[.jonnywg] highcotton THERE WILL NOT BE A RATE STATEMENT AS WE ARE STILL OF THE OPINION THE LOGICAL RATE IS $4 PLUS AND MAY GO AS HIGH AS $7

[HUNTRESS] when it does Rv - do we call the bank for an appointment or do we just show up ? 

[BellaGrits] HUNTRESS EITHER, WE RECOMMEND YOU CALL FOR AN APPT

[[JoyfulOne] Are there brokers who would be competitive with the banks in the cash-out rate? I am thinking about fees, etc.

 [.jonnywg] JoyfulOne YES THERE WILL BE COMPETITION FOR YOUR MONEY

[cogic1] Will this RV before we see it show and where can we see it??

[BellaGrits] cogic1 MANY PLACES.....BANKS ... CBI SITE....FOREX...AND AT INTEL4U WE WILL HAVE A PARTY!

 [jnorm] Bella or Jonny...Do you feel that we will want to diversify into some other currencies after we cash in? To hedge against the USD falling?

[.jonnywg] jnorm I ABSOLUTELY FEEL THAT THE FIRST THING SHOULD BE TO CASH INTO A DODD--FRANK ACCOUNT THEN MOVE MOST OF YOUR MONEY TO A MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT IN SEVERAL STABLE CURRENCIES....... GBP, YUAN, RIAL, AUS, RUBLE, INDIAN RUPE PLUS A FEW OTHERS....... LIKE A MINI MUTUAL FUND

[BlessedByHim] Who are the PTB now? UST? Iraq? China?

[BellaGrits] BlessedByHim PTB ARE EVERYWHERE.....

[LINDEEE] .jonnywg ... can these stalls continue ad infinitum?

[BellaGrits] LINDEEE IT DOESN'T APPEAR THEY CAN STALL MUCH LONGER IN THE LEAST....AT ALL

 [Andi] .jonnywg earlier you said the RV happened last Friday night, are you still of that opinion?

BellaGrits] Andi YES, 11PM EST IS MY OPINION....AND JONNY'S OPINION

[hawaii50] Jonnywg: If we need to fly to cash out, would it be a good idea to fly today or tonight?

[BellaGrits] hawaii50 DO NOT FLY UNTIL POST RV

 [DingDong] WHO asked you to be silent and why wasn't Tony silenced at PTR?

[.jonnywg] DingDong WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME CONECTIONS

[LINDEEE] .jonnywg are the "stallers" US related? Politicians? Presidents? Cabinet? or is it finally out of their hands?

[.jonnywg] LINDEEE ALL MENTIONED ARE STALLERS AND THEY NEVER QUIT BUT ARE SILENCED RIGHT NOW

[calidinarhope] Has anything negative happened to delay this since Okie's post last night? Like rats or glitches or something ...

[BellaGrits] calidinarhope WE UNDERSTAND THIS MORNING THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME ADDTIONAL ARRESTS; HOWEVER, THIS WILL NOT STALL THE RV IMO ANY LONGER

 [justchecking] Who are the ptb? We might actually learn something important if the semi-answer puts the question to rest. Thanks.

[.jonnywg] justcheckingPTB ARE CHINA/USA/ 3LETTER AGENCIES

[Outriggers] If large banks clearing, will smaller banks still verify on site or have to send off? If so,will they delay funding our account?

[.jonnywg] Outriggers ASK THEM NOW FOR THEIR POLICY

[lynncool] Are we only going to have a short time to cash out at a higher rate?

[BellaGrits] lynncool IT IS OUR OPINION THAT COULD BE VERY POSSIBLE

 [LINDEEE] .jonnywg BellaGrits ....can't they call a moratorium on these changes for a specific period of time?

[amg] Jonny any news on possible Canadian bank packages?

 [.jonnywg] amg FOR THE LAST TIME ......CANADIAN BANKS HAVE REFUSED TO COOPERATE

[duffy] What makes this ASN...AMN...any different than during the last few months when we keep hearing the same thing.

[BellaGrits] duffy THE WORLD ECONOMY...

[angelbabies28] Jonny what is a SKID?

[.jonnywg] angelbabies28 4FOOT BY 4FOOT PALLET

BlackeyedP] Is the rv now depending on Iraq or the US?

[BellaGrits] BlackeyedP NEITHER

 [cookie] Hi -- Are you still expecting rates to be between $4.00 and 6.00? TY

[BellaGrits] cookie YES, THEN YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED WHEN IT COMES OUT HIGHER?

[donerv] Hi .jonnywg What is PTR? You mean that PTR can stall RV? i am little confused

[.jonnywg] donerv PTR IS ANOTHER WEB SITE

[BellaGrits] donerv PTB = IF THAT IS WHAT YOU MEANT....POWERS THAT BE

[Bigdog55] johnnywg if no one knows the rates how is it that whales can cash out

[.jonnywg] Bigdog55 SHOW ME PROOF THAT THEY DID

 [magee] Sailman Try the Bank of Nova Scotia 

 [BellaGrits] magee THANK YOU

[RCM] Jonny thanks for taking time for this. Without the usual pat answers, do you have any concrete confirmation that we will see it happen before this week is over?

[BellaGrits] RCM IF OUR INTEL PROVES CORRECT, YES, YOU WILL

[wclogr] I believe Canadian banks will wake up once we have tradable rate, they won't want to lose our money IMO

[.jonnywg] wclogr I AGREE

[jdaystar3] Bella grits, I have heard that people in Canada living in the province of Ontario have already set up their accounts for the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar with the Bank of Nova Scotia .

[.jonnywg] jdaystar3 MATBE .........IF ANYONE HAS CANADIAN NEWS CONTACT ME AND I WILL PROMOTE IT

[candy] any news on the VND?

BellaGrits] candy RATES RANGING ALL OVER THE MAP FROM .03-.99

 [jjmyles] .jonnywg Do you agree that the leaders of the World will not let one Man justify (Hold Up) the outcome of the RV's?

[BellaGrits] jjmyles YES, I DO

[diesel09] Did the CBI stop all currency actions ? If so what is you take on this?

[BellaGrits] diesel09 ALL AUCTIONS HAVE BEEN STOPPED PER THE NEWSPAPER PLACED IN CHAT THIS MORNING.... APRIL 25, 2012 WAS THE DATE OF THE ARTICLE

[LINDEEE] .jonnywg BellaGrits .....if the banks have a worldwide reconciliation time when all the banks are open...then how difficult it is to declare a deadine for everyone. There is always at least 1 who will be late, incomplete, etc. so there is always an excuse to halt the RV.

[BellaGrits] LINDEEE ANYTIME IS OKAY TO RV...REMEMBER THE KUWAIT RV WAS AT 3:30 EST...

 [smitty] Any confirmation that the banks may assist in paying off reserves?? TY

[BellaGrits] smitty SOME BANKS WILL....THERE ARE SOME BANKS THAT WILL....WE KNOW THIS...CALL AROUND

[smokin70s] jonnywg some say this RV is a global reset due to the economic situation of the world, others say Nesara or white hats /black hat scenerio if it's Nesara doesn't the president have to sign off on it ? and y would O sign himself out of office ? 

jonnywg] AGREED ON THE RESET PART BUT WILL NOT DISCUSS THE WHITE HATS/NESARA

 [gwalls] If a person cashed out with a dealer and it did not go thru the UST, could that person be persecuted by the government?

BellaGrits] gwalls NOT IF IT WAS PURCHASED DIRECTLY OUT OF IRAQ....REVENUE WILL GO DIRECTLY BACK TO IRAQ....SEEK LEGAL ADVICE; HOWEVER, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD....BEST TO BE SAFE....LEGAL ADVICE PLS

[best1154] .jonnywg If the banks are open when we RV, will the banks stay open?

open?

[Edna] .jonnywg BellaGrits ..SweetQueen Thank you for your patience and the time you have invested in trying to help us!

[BellaGrits] Edna YOU ARE ALL VERY WELCOME! WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AS WELL! [

 [eppexpress]j ohnnywg, will you furnish a location list for the states? When I speak with WF in TN they act like I just fell off another star.

 [BellaGrits] eppexpress YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT ALL THE BANKS THAT WILL BE AFTER YOU...YOU BE CAREFUL IN WHO "YOU" CHOOSE...THEY NEED YOU WORSE THAN YOU DO THEM....

 [geterdone] IYO Do we have to wait for all economies around the world to collapse in order to implement the new banking system and RV?

[BellaGrits] geterdone NO, WE DON'T

[pokerplyr] .jonnywg it was said a few weeks ago by someone that you can't "unring a bell"....did the bell have to be rung again??

[BellaGrits] pokerplyr THAT LINE HAS BEEN A BIT OVERUSED, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE?

ADAM MONTANA CHAT, 25 APRIL

[Adam Montana] Morning! I'm going to tell you all right off the bat I'm a cheerful man this morning, there is a LOT of good stuff happening now! 
[Adam Montana] let's close the floor and start this weeks chat 
[Adam Montana] Ok, first the bad news - no RV announced yet. I know a couple of guru's have "called it", but unfortunately they are (once again) jumping the gun. 
[Adam Montana] When the RV is REALLY announced, you'll hear it from me. Until then, I am going to keep doing these weekly chats for a few reasons. 1 - if I stopped, then newcomers would have no "voice of reason". I know there are people out there that don't like me, and that concerns me not even a little bit. I get up on this podium every week to let you know where we REALLY are in this investment, and hopefully bring a bit of sanity to this crazy ride 
[Adam Montana] Ooops, that was reason 1 and reason 2 I just forgot to number the final reason :lol: 
[Adam Montana] so here's where we are 
[Adam Montana] Iraq meeting with Kuwait. NICE! Changes in the data the CBI posted. DOUBLE NICE! Iraq officially dropped the intention of "removing the 0's by September". I LOVE IT! Chapter 7 and HCL still not done. Bummer. 
[Adam Montana] The absolute most positive thing I can take from those items is the fact that 3 of the 5 are DONE, and the other 2 are NEXT UP. It's not a matter of 'if", it's a matter of "when" 
[Adam Montana] unfortunately, it's very uncertain how "soon" this will happen. If you're reading the articles in the news section lately, you know Iraq is moving forward and they are very positive lately. I hope we see a major rate change by this summer, but I think the original "plan" was to do it right around September. I think they need some time to pull in some of the larger notes, and we know the average Iraqi currently prefers USD to Dinar. This is perfect if the CBI wants to gradually pull in some of the IQD that's on the streets out there. 
[Adam Montana] It doesn't appear that there is any way to QUICKLY pull a lot of IQD off the street, so we all have to suck it up and be patient. They aren't going to launch this thing prematurely, because that would be a recipe for failure. 
[Adam Montana] I know a lot of people won't like to hear that, but I guess if you wanted to be told something more "rosey" you would be reading someone else's chat, not mine. :lol: 
[Adam Montana] ok, that's the current "State of the Dinar" - now for the weekly questions. kcw, fire away! 
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[kcw] cgbrown Adam, another week has past, is there anything new on the horizon for our investment.? 
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[Adam Montana] Another day, another dinar... I don't think there's much other than what I just went over. We're still hanging around watching for Chapter 7 and HCL news. 
[Adam Montana] next please! 
[Adam Montana] Shoot. I'm sorry everyone, I have to pause chat for a moment .
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[kcw] PBRL Hi Adam and kcw, thanks for all you guys do for us. I had a thought on the RV, with the US supporting their economy with our USD, would it be possible if we (meaning US) is holding them back from RVing until near election time. From what I understand, when Bush was in office he said before the war started that it will pay for itself. Now that everything is just about in place, and RV near election time will surely change an outcome for our current President. I might not be saying it right, but hope you have an idea of what I'm trying to say. Thanks again =P Redwizard Adam I have sort of asked this before and still trying to figure it out. If Iraq can not have an operating Army under Ch 7 and the US military has pulled out, there is no one there to protect the people or the country. I just dont see any wealth coming into this country if there is no protection. Saying this, (and I understand that another meeting is suppose to be in June) do you even see an RV before the Ch 7 is lifted?
[kcw] Who would protect the people and the country which are now richer from other countries or even local thieves? TimS Adam.....With the country's new democracy in it's infancy, and all the distrust between the 3 major parties, and the mass coruption across the board that makes Iraq a free for all, Maliki's dictatorship aspirations and Iran's interferring.....do you still strongly believe the RV will happen by year's end? 

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[Adam Montana] one person asked if Obama might have something to do with the RV. If they might be delaying this thing until it would be more beneficial to the POTUS, inferring that Obama could use the RV to help him get re-elected. 
[Adam Montana] IF that is the case, and if there is any way to make that happen... I have no doubt that Obama would try to do that! Wouldn't you? 
[Adam Montana] Of course you would! 
[Adam Montana] however 
[Adam Montana] I don't believe an RV of the Iraqi Dinar is about the US. It's about IRAQ. 
[Adam Montana] Will Obama use it to his advantage? Of course. Does it hinge on our elections? I don't believe so. 
[Adam Montana] next was about Chapter 7 
[Adam Montana] listen, I'll explain it like this. Iraq has a military. They are simply restricted in what they can do with that military due to the final Chapter 7 sanctions. One majorly important fact is that they can not use Nukes. 
[Adam Montana] You might initially think "So what? That's a good thing, nobody should use nukes!" 
[Adam Montana] but to put everything in "real world" perspective, if they RV their currency, settle the HCL issue, and recapture some of their former wealth 
[Adam Montana] and Iran decides "hey, I'll take that!"... what does Iraq do? If Iran pointed a nuke at Iraq and swooped in, Iraq would be taking a knife to a gunfight. It is REALLY that simple. 
[Adam Montana] Chapter 7 must be released in order for Iraq to successfully revalue their currency. End of story 
[Adam Montana] next please! 
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[kcw] Off-the-grid My first ever questions: • Do you have information regarding Central Banks holding any IQD cashed in as a Reserve Currency beyond Shabibi's / Saleh's comments? Does this strong(?) possibility affect your opinion of a possible rate? Not asking for a rate, but do you now think it could be higher if foreign held IQD will NOT be sent to the CBI any time shortly after the RV? • Hand-in-hand with No. 1, do you have any information about the "Plan" I've read about for using IQD as petro-dollars at a big discount? I tried to research our site for this with no luck, so maybe you have not said anything directly about these possibilities other that maybe becoming a Reserve Currency would be good for us. 
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[Adam Montana] Good question off-the-grid (I like the name too !) 
[Adam Montana] the answer hinges on one thing - there is no concrete proof that this plan is indeed being implemented. 
[Adam Montana] IF IT WAS, that would be a great way for Iraq to move forward with an RV, but since there is no proof of it we are only speculating. Unfortunately, that's the best answer I can give for now. 
[Adam Montana] next please! 
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[kcw] MikeRite Adam do you think a big part of the Iraq revaluation plan has been part of a bigger plan to create demand for the us dollar as other countries are now indicating a move away from it. As the world cashes in treir dinar, trillions of us dollars will be needed to payout dinar holders raising the value of the us dollar? 
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[Adam Montana] I understand the thought process there, but the logic is slightly flawed. Take a prime example - the US. Our debt is higher than the amount of USD currently in circulation. Obviously we could not simply pay our debt with cash, so one can also assume that Iraq can bring wealth back into existence without having to actually "pay cash" for it. 
[Adam Montana] next please! 
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[kcw] dinarbeleiver Ali from dinar trade is back do you think the RV is now imminent 
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[Adam Montana] I believe Ali had to take care of family matters, was possibly being investigated for something, and took a break. Now that he's handled his situation, he is back in business. I don't think that implies an RV, sorry. 
[Adam Montana] next please! 
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[kcw] ayrnay22 Question for u Adam is it possible that the us could or has implemented something similiar to the Marshall plan that they did with Germany after ww1 also the germany government was better off than iraqs and it took 25 years for the Marshall plan to get an rv of 1.65:1 this was viewed as a success what are your thoughts on this scenario 
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[Adam Montana] That WAS a success, and it did take a long time. However, Iraq's situation is different and I expect it to go different. To get to the root of your question... yes, it could take much longer than we hope, expect, or want. There's nothing we can do about it, we can only be patient. 
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[kcw] scottch Adam, first of all let me thank you for everything you do for all of us. It has been said that the UN Security Counsil will meet in June and that the meeting will be about Iraq and chapter 7, how do we know what the meeting will be about? It has also been said that Iraq will not or has postponed the deletion of zeros from the IQD; however i have read articles on the forum stating that the Central Bank of Iraq is still planning to delete the zeros, what is your take on it? And last, what are the chances of us really seeing an RV this year, or could we be waiting until next year? 
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[Adam Montana] We don't know for sure what will transpire at any of these meetings. We can speculate 
[Adam Montana] The CBI has withdrawn their intent to remove the 0's by September 
[Adam Montana] and like I've said, the RV could happen tomorrow or it could take a few more years. 
[Adam Montana] After 8 years... what's a couple more? 
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[kcw] Rubberband King Good day to you Adam and kcw, and thanks for all you do to keep us DV people level headed and grounded. My question is for the people that are currently overseas. When the RV does occur will your text be sent international as well? Thanks in advance
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[Adam Montana] yes. The text system works for all numbers, even international :twothumbs: 
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[kcw] chess ADAM: Is Okie REALLY Obama's alter ego?.....misdirection personified! thank you ADAM: Do you believe there is really 30-35 trillion IQD currency out there? thank you 
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[Adam Montana] I think my weatherman pays Okie to be constantly wrong, because it makes him look better. In fact, all the people that think he is paid by dinar dealers are probably wrong. It's the National Weather People that pay him to be wrong. 
[Adam Montana] regarding the amount of currency out there, nobody knows. The CBI lies about that and pretty much everything else. 
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[kcw] RobLe Hi Adam, my question is: How is it that Iraq has been removing large Dinar notes for some time now in preparation for revaluing their currency and we here in the US have endless supplies. We can go to any of MANY banks and private companies and purchase the large denomination Iraq Dinar? Each day in the US the word gets out and more and more people are purchasing the Iraq Dinar. It is as though there is an endless supply here in the United States. This just doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain this? Thanks 
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[Adam Montana] There isn't an endless supply, and I think the amount US Dinarians hold is less than you would imagine. :twocents: 
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[kcw] localcats If Iraq is supposed to join the WTO in June, wouldn't they need an international recognized currency? 
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[Adam Montana] Sure wouldn't hurt! 
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[kcw] Rogue Knight Adam, what are your thoughts on such a large CBI DATA Change ? 2012 Forecasts GDP - real growth rate 12.6% Budget deficit/GDP 10.0% Current account deficit/GDP 4.5% Net foreign reserves $60B 
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[Adam Montana] Ah, good old CBI numbers again! I have some thoughts on this, but I'll keep it simple. First, keep in mind that these are only forecasts, not actual numbers. Second, if they are accurate, this could be GREAT news! But finally, third: the CBI lies. They misdirect, and they don't have a stellar record for accuracy. The only thing I count on the CBI for is to do what is in Iraq's best interest. That's one of my main reasons for staying in this investment so long. 
[Adam Montana] Think about it: Has the RV happened yet? No. BUT has the value of the Dinar steadily risen since 2003? YOU BET IT HAS. I'm staying in this investment because unlike so many of our 401ks, this one continues to go UP in value. RV or not, I like my chances here. 
[Adam Montana] That's my :twocents: on the matter. As always, don't buy the "hype" - look at the facts and don't invest more than you can afford to SIT ON. 
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[kcw] GameChanger Adam, thank you for all you do. I get the sense that every week is the same old thing and you give us the same old (yet it's the only thing you can do) information. So, rather than take your time and asking the same questions week after week, can you give us a few reliable sources where we can check on a daily basis (or weekly) so we can have a sense of what's going on? This site is great and provides that but we are always looking for verification, confirmation, he said/ she said. I'm optimistic and hopefully this get's going soon ie. RV. Would rather not take up your time and be able to get things as close to the source as possible. Thanks again
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[Adam Montana] See the next question for some good sites 
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[kcw] waitingondinar Hi Adam, Is there any truth to the articles listed at: http://iraqdailytime...r ••• ly-times one article talks about the lifting of the Zeros almost completed. Another article I read said they want Malaki and misinformation was put in print stating the Iraqi's wanted him out of office. I usually check the following sites for news: Aswat al Iraq, Iraqi News Agency, AK News, and Iraqi Daily Times
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[Adam Montana] I'll add Buratha and of course - the DinarVets news section. Those are all great sources for current information. I think the DV news section probably trumps all, thanks to our amazing newshounds here 
[Adam Montana] waitingondinar, you have a good question but we have no way of predicting what will happen. I addressed this in last weeks chat in more detail 
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[kcw] Danomite Adam, thanks again for all you do! My question is concerning an article I read in the news section posted by Cheevo titled " Shabibi Speaks". Shabs is quoted as saying that the project to delete the zeros of the Iraqi Dinar, which is expected to see the light of day the first of next January... My question is, does this now move our timeline out to January of 2013 or is this more smoke and mirrors? 
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[Adam Montana] Smoke, maybe... but like I said, the "plan" has been temporarily aborted at this time. They said the same thing back in 2010, and it was aborted then as well. 
[Adam Montana] i'm sure they will say it a few more times before this is all over 
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[kcw] securityguy Adam; Some weeks ago in an earlier chat I asked you if you felt Maliki was the bad guy and possibly was holding up this RV for his own personal gain and to maybe make Shabbi look bad. You basically felt that was not the case. Has your feelings on this point changed? Do you currently feel they would go to the extrems of booting both S and M, and if they did, would you still be on the "September Train"? 
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[Adam Montana] That's funny - "S and M" :lol: The politics in Iraq fit that description! My feelings are the same now as last time I addressed it. I think we win in both situations. :twothumbs: 
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[kcw] Saint Adam, as always great to be on board this train, kcw for posting so quickly after live chat. Adam do you think what is going on with the Russian troops on deployment getting ready to help Iran militarily will have any affect on the talks going on in Iraq at this time, and if so how will this affect all the prep work already done for the RV ? Gooooo RrrrrrVvvvvv 
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[Adam Montana] I don't see it as a major factor, but if the UN sees this as a threat then they might move quicker on the Chapter 7 issue. This would be a good thing for us :twothumbs: 
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[kcw] disciple7 Adam with talks of this possibly boiling down to the end of 2012 do you still feel that the US presidential election has nothing to do with the RV? or do you think that O will try to use this as a tool in his favor to turn people to vote for his re-election? Thank you Thanks for this site, albeit I sometimes have to trade sleep for my IQD fix when I'm on a hot load and can only take a 10 hour break (which includes dinner and breakfast 
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[Adam Montana] You are very welcome for the site! It was always my intention to be responsible for building a site that allowed people to talk about BOTH sides of this investment, as opposed to so many other sites that simply ban anyone who isn't completely "Kool-Aided up". I think I've done a good job there, and it's a good feeling. Your appreciation makes it even better. 
[Adam Montana] Regarding the POTUS, if he can use it in his favor we all know he will. If the Dianr RVs within 3 months of the election, major jobs will be created, unemployment would see a huge improvement, and Obama would take credit for all of it. He'd win by a landslide. :twocents: 
[Adam Montana] Will that happen? I don't know, we'll have to wait and see 
[Adam Montana] Ok, sorry for the short interruption today! Thanks for being patient and waiting for me. Oh! One more announcement 
[Adam Montana] A couple times a year I like to donate ad space to charities. I asked the members here what charity they wanted to see it given to this time, and there were THIRTY suggestions! 
[Adam Montana] We have a very generous community here, and I'm proud to be part of it 
[Adam Montana] unfortunately I can't give all thirty charities the ad space, so we will take a final poll to determine the lucky recipient. 
[Adam Montana] I'll send an email out to the members with the link shortly, please be sure to vote 
[Adam Montana] and finally, there's a 20% off for any VIP upgrades...but that is ending this Sunday 
[Adam Montana] if you are due for renewal or wanted to get in VIP, do it now! Here's the link: http://iqd.me/l/order 
[Adam Montana] and the code for the discount is "20for2012" 
[Adam Montana] That's it, thanks everyone, GOO RVVVVVVVVV!!!!! and have a wonderful day :tiphat: 
[Adam Montana] thanks everyone. one of our amazing mods will have the chat posted shortly, you can follow up there. 
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