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Thursday, April 5, 2012

OKIEOILMAN POST, 5 APRIL

OKIEOILMAN: TOMMOROW WILL BE THE "GOOD FRIDAY" YOU WILL ALWAY'S REMEMBER--BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY REMEMBER JESUS TOMMOROW AS THE DINAR PALES IN COMPARISON WITH WHAT HE GAVE US

mcbrp to OKIEOILMAN: Please tell us we went to defcon 1
OKIEOILMAN: MCBRP--DEFCON 1 IS WAR-----DEFCON 2 IS THE HIGHEST STATE SHORT OF WAR THERE IS

OKIEOILMAN: WHO DO YOU LOVE ENOUGH TO ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE CRUCIFIED TO SAVE??--IF YOU WERE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANTET JESUS WOULD STILL HAVE GIVEN HIS LIFE FOR YOU-----THAT IS REAL AGAPPE LOVE (SOMETHING WE CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND
) OKIEOILMAN: MEETING IN IRAQ IS AND WAS IRRELEVANT------IT IS ALL TAKEN CARE OF AS THIS AFTERNOON--NEED I SAY MORE?

HeavenOnEarth to OKIEOILMAN: You sure know how to PREACH the WORD 
OKIEOILMAN: I AM NOT A PREACHER--WISHED I WAS--JUST A BLOOD BOUGHT MESSENGER AND NOTHING MORE

OKIEOILMAN: MALIKI--TALIBANI--ALLAWAI-----ALL IS IRRELEVANT NOW---FORGET IRAQ----AS OF 3.30 P.M THIS AFTERNOON---READ WHAT I SAY

OKIEOILMAN: ANYTIME YOU WISH TO THANK SOMEONE---THANK OUR FATHER FOR PUTTING US TOGETHER---SHOWER NO PRAISE ON ME--

 

OKIEOILMAN: EACH MEMBER OF THIS SITE IS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS MYSELF-BULLDOG--OR ANY OTHER INTEL GIVER 

mvg1222 to OKIEOILMAN: So we Will See THis Tomorrow..Would that be a correct interpretation?

OKIEOILMAN: MVG1222--BINGO

dilandinar: Any chance it will be posted by midnight??? 

OKIEOILMAN: DILANDINAR--DID YOU NOT READ MY STATEMENT ABOUT 3.30 PM THIS AFTERNOON?

OKIEOILMAN: MAN--CAN'T YOU GUY'S READ?OKIEOILMAN: LET'S SEE IF THIS SOAK'S IN-------THE BUTTON WAS PUSHED AT 3.30 THIS AFTERNOON-----NOW WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?

OKIEOILMAN: IN A KINGDOM OF BLIND---THE PERSON WITH 1 EYE WILL BE KING

Midnightplus to OKIEOILMAN: Are you able to say what the rate is yet? Any rate is great but curious

OKIEOILMAN: MIDNIGHT--RATE FURNISHED LAST NIGHT

ADAM MONTANA CHAT, 5 APRIL

[Adam Montana] Howdy everyone! I know the Wednesday Q&A is late, please put down the tar and feathers. Thanks for being flexible with my schedule

[Adam Montana] I've seen a few people mention that I'm not delivering much exciting news lately, and it's 100% true. It's also 100% GOOD in my opinion, for what I'm sure is an obvious reason to many of you

[Adam Montana] it's because so much good has ALREADY happened, that there simply isn't anything much left to get excited about! Iraq has already overcame 99.9% of the hurdles that they needed to get over

They've accomplished what they need to accomplish, and it's now "poop or get off the pot" time.

[Adam Montana] Now, until they make that move I could spend 5 hours a day in the chat room, but without any news to share I really don't envision myself doing that
[Adam Montana] Until I have great news to share, my chats will probably be short and to the point


[Adam Montana] so, at this time we're looking for the SAME THINGS AS LAST WEEK: HCL, Chapter 7, RV. It's really that simple.

[Adam Montana] I believe we have some Q's to go through! kcw, I'm ready when you are
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[kcw] cgbrown Well it is obvious that we did not see a RV in March.... so when is our next window of opportunity??? What hurdles are still before us before reaching the finish line on this investment???
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[Adam Montana] I'm still sticking to my "now to September" timeline. :tiphat:
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] Sun Devil Adam - You were pretty confident last week when you said "the lopsters will be eating crow soon". Has that sentiment changed?
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[Adam Montana] Nope, it has not changed. I do not think the lobsters wil be vindicated, I think they will be proven wrong by the once again wealthy Iraq, and I believe they will pull a lot of that wealth out of thin air by RESTORING value to their currency. 

The CBI has the power to do it, and I think they will do it soon. :twocents:
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] Firedawg Adam, With all of the conflicting news stories out there could this be the mis-information stage right before it pops?
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[Adam Montana] I've felt that was the case for the last couple years, but I think you're right - it is getting more and more contradictory and I believe they will use a lot of misdirection right before it pops.
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] juan martinez What impact, if any will our Presidential election have on the timing of an RV?
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[Adam Montana] I think the US has given Iraq as much help as we are going to, now it's time for us to be repaid. With that said, I don't think our elections will impact the timing, but I do think we will benefit from it when it happens, even if it's after the elections.
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] BeringSea If this re-dominates before it revalues, do you know when that will happen by (just the rd part)? From reading the news articles my best guess is from Sept 2012 to Jan 2013, though I don't know for sure. Appreciate it. Hoping very much for the rv before the rd, though also know this is just speculative
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[Adam Montana] My guess is exactly as yours is. Cheers
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] choeschen Your last chat you said it makes sense for this to RV and then RD. If it does RV and then RD before I cash in do you think my large notes will be honored at face value and then taken out of circulation or will my large notes be honored at the lower denomination (25,000 = 25)?
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[Adam Montana] well, if they impose a cash in time window, you will know then. If there is no window, and there is an RV before the RD, then your 25,000 note would be worth 25,000 at a 1:1 rate. 

Of course we don't know what the rate will be, so that part is debatable. IF they just do a straight l0p, then most likely your 25,000 would only be worth 25 if they do a full 000 l0p

[Adam Montana] the only way your note wouldn't be honored at face value is with the l0p. However, we've all seen the articles that state they want to raise the value, and l0pping does not raise the value
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] edbeach Adam Good Morning We have had a lot of good news come out last couple months now. ….My question is if this would RV low under dollar is there IMF ruling thats states only rv every 90 days & up to 2% only.
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[Adam Montana] There is no ruling or law that states that. There have been instances where that was done with certain currencies, but the situation was different than what we have here. These things are done on a case-by-case basis
[Adam Montana] good question though. Next please!
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[kcw] rope Topic in chat is 2012 Budget Posted in Gazette April 1, 2012. What stage does this put us in?
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[Adam Montana] it puts us in the "hurry up and wait" stage :lol:

[Adam Montana] Regardless of what THIS budget says, since they haven't RV'd yet the posted budget could be just temporary. 

If you walk into a casino and win a million bucks, your personal budget would change drastically. Same goes here. :twothumbs:
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] adlon Adam, do you have an opinion on Ali having established a bank in Iraq (presuming this is fact not rumor). It also appears that Ali has become more active in posting on the net his opinions regarding the dissemination of misinformation
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[Adam Montana] This is a funny question, because that rumor has been going around for years. Now that he's starting to come back into the public eye, it's floating around. I don't know for sure, but I do know that when this rumor first started, it was debunked.
[Adam Montana] But to answer your question:

[Adam Montana] If Ali has made enough money to start a bank, I say "good for him". However, Ali has nothing to do with Iraq's decision to improve the value of their currency.

He can't influence it, he can't vote on it, and one more bank in the world isn't the deciding factor in this ride.
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] scottch Adam, if the RV comes out at .10 and then goes up like you said, would it be a good idea just cash in at the .10 or hold what we have and wait? 

Or should I cash in and reinvest in the smaller denoms and wait for it to go up? Just want to know if the value of the larger denoms will be going down, like IQD 25,000 to IQD 25?
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[Adam Montana] that depends 1000% on what Iraq mandates that we do. If they put a window on cashing in, we can't fight it. If they don't, then I hope we are able to hold our notes until the value peaks and then cash in for face value. 

If we can't do either of those, then we do whatever Iraq allows us to do. I guess what I'm saying is we can't commit to any plan yet, but after the RV I suggest you do whatever is most profitable.
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] catone Hi Adam --First of all, thanks for all you do for us. Second is my question -- kind of an "addendum" to "rope's" above.....I read the article posted in the Gazette regarding the budget, and it indeed, has been posted. 

The question I have is that once this has happened, it has always been my understanding that the RV HAD to be imminent, or already done. I also read a "blurb' on Bloomberg that "Iraq had re-valued their currency."

Is it possible that this has happened, but for whatever reason the world is being kept in the dark about it? And, if so, WHY, in your opinion, would they not release the information globally?
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[Adam Montana] If the decision has been made, it could only be kept internal for a very short time... there's no way they could keep that one under wraps.

In my opinion, since we have not seen the HCL or Chapter 7 finished, it's very unlikely that the RV has happened. I'm also betting that when it's officially released, it will be worldwide in a very short time, and will not be done as an in-country thing.
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] jas428 Could you comment on the articles that say the new denoms will be out in Sept., VS. The articles that state the new denoms will be out in 2013? 

Obviously there can be no RV until the new denoms are out but I question those two specific dates, as they are consistently used in dozens of articles.
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[Adam Montana] As usual, Iraq is contradicting itself and I only believe half of what I read from them. It's a coin flip to determine which half I believe.
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[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] idplzr Adam, what are your thoughts on the Kurds stopping their oil production? It seems to me this a good tool to use as leverage?
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[Adam Montana] My thoughts: Yes, could be a good tool but it's already backfiring on them
[Adam Montana] I don't think it's going to last long, but if they are using this to put pressure on the powers that be - good for them. Just don't be foolish about it
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] cashman54 Adam, what are the chances the girls I have been chatting with from the advertisements on this site are as good looking as shown? I think I am in love
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[Adam Montana] slim to none. :lol:
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] FloridaEd Adam, thanks for all the time and effort you put in. I seem to remember that either the IMF or UN regulations mandating that a country can only issue new currency every 10 years. Is it possible that's what is going to happen?
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[Adam Montana] There is no law that states this. In fact, Kuwait changed currencies several times within a short period.


[Adam Montana] ok everyone! That was the last question. Thanks for your patience, kcw and the mod TEAM thanks for all you do around here!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE , 5 APRIL


4-5-2012  Intel Guru BellaGrits     things are still moving...best news we can get...no delays, no excuses, no negative...the banks are excited...so you guys have every reason to expect to hear some good news rather soon...IMO-- I feel it will be hard to give an exact time or even a timeframe...when has the world ever experienced a global reset? 

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuru  The Iraqi List announced today they will not be attending the NC or any other meetings until all the terms of the Erbil agreement are implemented and they see the adoption of the Amnesty Law. The procrastination of the Eribl as some political blocs call it has gone on long enough.  The failure of the power-sharing agreement is what has frustrated the List and the reason for their abscence. The Iraqi List is led by Allawi and I believe this boycott will lead to a complete resolution on this matter finally...Other upcoming issues include the HCL, fully seated GOI, introduction of the new currency, raising of their exchange rate and then the tariffs being put into effect.  Iraq wants to play ball with the rest of the world and to do that they need to suit up. 

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru Enorrste   Shabibi’s...having more and more difficulty in holding the reigns on the economy. His plan is in jeopardy, in short. Plus he is on record that the new currency (and clearly, then, a new higher rate) will already be in place when he issues that currency in September...our window is something less than 5 months now (April to September) and practically speaking less than that, since the first RV must naturally occur SOONER rather than LATER in order for a gradual increase in the value of the IQD to be effective.

4-5-2012  Intel Guru FreewayBill   The best I can tell you is that we are in a pretty good place to see something happening VERY soon right now...The stars are aligned and the signing is done done done...Looking to go into this Easter weekend as a memorial one...Stay stoked! Our blessing is coming.

4-5-2012  Intel Gurus Okie_Oil_Man & Bulldog75    "TO THOSE WHO WERE IN THE MILITARY, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF THIS POST. AS OF 2 PM CST TODAY, WE JUST WENT TO DEFCON 2. RATE INFORMATION FROM LAST NIGHT IS VERIFIED. TOMORROW WILL BE DEFINITELY A GOOD FRIDAY".  MORE DATA AND DETAILS FORTHCOMING LATER TODAY. WE ARE GOOD TO GO.

4-5-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman   all info still wonderful.  Hearing some banks ready to move it to regional levels, most do this before it goes on.  Some are saying that they are waiting on last banks in USA to open around 1:30 cst.  Take all info as rumors at this point. No news from Iraq they are still in black out.  News out of kuwait an dubai are saying N.C. MEETING IS GOING GREAT and did start the finishing process.  This is shaping to be a great next few days.  Some are saying look for Sunday. Everything I am hearing is pointing to between now and Monday. 

4-5-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg  we feel this afternoon looks great...be ready for that moment

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru Breitling   Watch what's going to happen after June when the UN Secrity has their vote & see if they get out of Chapter 7.  They said they are going to revalue their currency & exchange the notes.  We will see if these guys actually do it.  I don't believe in language such as low ball, sucker rate, low rate.  The will come out at the highest rate they can come out at.  They need to build up their economy along with the currency. 

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaguru  [Post 3 of 3]   Chapter 7 removal is not a requirement for the RVTechnically, the RV also is not a requirement for the Chapter 7 removal. However, we believe the UN will not give up that bargaining chip without the CBI releasing a tradeable currency and dropping the artificial rate. So, the fact we see all this progress being made for the Chapter 7 release shows us the RV is closer than we may think. Tariffs go into effect on June 1st and prior to that we expect Shabibi to follow through with his plan to introduce the new currency and with it their new exchange rate.

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru Med   I SEE ALSO THAT THE US HAS ACTUALLY COME OUT AND SAID THAT KUWAIT  NEEDS TO BACK DOWN  AND WORK ON GETTING IRAQ OUT OF CHAPTER VII.   NOW CHAPTER VII  ONLY ENTAILS THREE THINGS - THE DEMARCIATION OF THE BORDERS,  THE ACCOUNTING OF MISSING AND TO PAY THE REST OF THE COMPENSATION...NOTHING ELSE NO ECONOMIC POLICIES,  NOTHING ELSE.

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru Enorrste   we...wait until June and the release from Chapter VII.  But even that will not guarantee an RV unless Maliki has come to a power-sharing agreement prior to that time.  Shabibi is slowly plowing along...The end of phase 1 is completed and the beginning of phase 2 (the first RV) is supposed to come “in the coming days” or even “in a few days.”  Of course those few days have already passed.

4-5-2012  Intel Guru Bluwolf    WE ARE JUST A OFFICIAL PHONE CALL AWAY...ALL BANK ALIGNMENTS IS AT 2:00PM EST...WE ARE IN A SECOND TO SECOND WATCH AND ITS LOOKING GOOD.

4-5-2012  Intel Guru Bulldog75   According to sources & imho: we continue with an 'hour to hour rate post watch' for some permanency.  Last night screens were 'tests', 'temp place holders' or 'codes'. All conditions are most favorable.

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaguru  [Post 2 of 3]  They [UN] have a general assembly scheduled for September but what we are looking for is a decision handed down from the Security Council for the removal of Chapter 7.  When the time comes in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, a decision from the Security Council will be made by an affirmative vote of the members of the Council including the concurring votes of the five permanent members. I believe this process will be accelerated due to private negotiations that have taken place between Iraq and the UN.   ["continued in post 3...stay tuned"]

4-5-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg   we should really pay attention at HAWAII BANK OPENING as all banks in USA will be open...other than that I would like to get a lot more confirmations.

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru Randy Koonce   There’s pressure – tremendous pressure to get the government set up…it doesn’t mean it’s tomorrow, but it does mean it’s not far from the road. If they have it, you’ll see the strategic council and then the money…there’s no if’s, and’s or butt’s…you don’t have to worry about a $14 dollar or $4 rate...It drives me up against the wall with 86 cents….it only means to remove 000’s off the street…you can’t remove 000’s off a rate.  Don’t worry about the rates falling from the sky on the bank screens…it’s bs...it will show on the CBI...Just check the CBI and if it hasn’t changed , it hasn’t changed.   My number is $3.41.

4-5-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuru   [Post 1 of 3]  It was announced that Kuwait dropped a significant amount of Iraq's debt in return for their recognition of Kuwait's borders in accordance with UN resolutions. Kuwait has also made major investments into Iraq and they are forming a mutually beneficial relationship. This was what the private meeting at the Summit was about. Iraq and Kuwait have come to agreements on all resolutions and it's now in the UN's hands.  ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

4-5-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman    major major league bankers...saying there was activity all over the screens, specifically vietnam and iraq were fluctuating all up and down saying a live loaded cashinable rate but a floating rate $5.22 and $5.28...until it locks we cant do anything with it...am I calling the RV,  no I'm not, but do I think the RV is in an IMMENINENT process.. yes.  We may wake up to great things!

BELLAGRITS POST, 5 APRIL

BellaGrits] Just wanted to drop in and tell you things are still moving......best news we can get......no delays, no excuses, no negative.....I'll take that in this RV anyday.....the Banks are excited...... so you guys have every reason to expect to hear some good news rather soon... IMO--


 I feel it will be hard to give an exact time or even a timeframe.....when has the world ever experienced a global reset? I think we are all over it and cornering it.....for sure.....


I haven't read anything negative as far as other intel providers. Just hung up with 2 intel providers, and we actually matched up stories??? WOW!!!!! Hang in there, peeps.....I feel the neverending rollercoaster is sliding on some brakes.... ahhh, I sure hope so....know your tired. Take care..... :)

JONNY POST UPDATE, 5 APRIL

[.jonnywg] I only ask that you hang in for 24 hrs as this unfolds and more info can be released

[.jonnywg] We feel this afternoon looks great................ be ready for that

[.jonnywg] We will report here as quick as we get the info

[janana] We really shouldn't have questions....just need answers

[.jonnywg] janana - Correct they are coming

[.jonnywg] It is going through the banking systems now

[dinarme2012] .jonnywg - The Myanmar has a new rate today. Is it in a different basket than the IQD and VND?

.jonnywg] dinarme2012 - Yes

[pokerplyr] Yesterday it was said that it would be hours...that we should see it by bank opening. In your opinion what is the hold up and how much longer?

[.jonnywg] it is going through the banking systems now

[gab44] .jonnywg - So you are saying that the rv will not present itself live until it registers everywhere it needs to be including potential branch offices? Thank you sir!

[.jonnywg] gab44 - Yes

[.jonnywg]booyahoohoho - The banking system should be reporting in soon and we hope all is done

[heartlandlocked2] .jonnywg Thanks for all you bring, Is this process of the front screen a possible testing function or the needed process to align and and go live?

[.jonnywg] heartlandlocked2 - We feel this is the "GO LIVE"

BLUWOLF CHAT, 5 APRIL

4:38 PM [bluwolf] WE AWAIT CALLS,,EVERYTHING IS STILL ON COURSE,,AND THE 525 IS A SWIFT OR MT OR A CURRENCY CODE AS I EXPLAINED LAST NIGHT,,IT IS NOT A PLACE HOLDER

[depper] I think,when Bulldog said "Okie is in the air", he meant Okie is now up in 12,360 ft altitude range. Just my thought...

[act4fredom] did BG75 post where Okie was in the air to?

bluwolf] IF OKIE IS IN TH AIR I WOULD KNOW,,BETWEEN THE LINES THAT MEANS GET READY ITS HERE

bluwolf] AS SOON AS I GET MINUTE TO MINUTE NEWS I WILL SHARE WITH YOU ALL OK,,GOD BLESS

bluwolf] ANOTHER THING PEOPLE COME IN WITH ALL SORTS OF RATES,,LOOK THERE IS ONLY ONE RATE LOCKED IN AND IT SHALL BE HIGH,,AND THEY DO NOT GET CHANGED AROUND IN VALUE LIKE SOME EXPRESS OUT THERE

OKIE & BULLDOG REPORT, 5 APRIL

2:23pm cst: okie/bulldog75 post: intel just in from okie: "to those who were in the military, you

will understand the meaning of this post. As of 2pm cst today, we just went to defcon 2. Rate

information from last night is verified. Tomorrow will be definitely a good friday"................take this

for what it is.....jonny is saying should be today

FREEWAYBILL POST, 5 APRIL

3Ss 4/5/12 .[FreewayBill] The best I can tell you is that we are in a pretty good place to see

something happening VERY soon right now.. The stars are aligned and the signing is done done

done.... Rates don't matter 'cause I will take what the Lord has decided I can handle... Looking to

go into this Easter weekend as a memorial one.... Stay stoked! Our blessing is coming... GOD grant

me the SERENITY to accept the things I cannot change, the COURAGE to change the things I can

and the WISDOM to know the difference.... AMEN

CHATTER FROM DINARLAND, 5 APRIL

00:00:56] Bulldog75: OK LADIES AND GENTS: WOW. GREAT NITE. WILL BE A FABULOUS THURSDAY !!!!!!!! 

FIREPROOF] most of us in this room and all the other rooms are not professional 
investors.........most are homemakers, truck drivers, mechanics whatever....we 
are not at all use to the idea of having to research anything like this...also 
we did not invent chat rooms... we were probably told by the person that brought 
us in that we should go here or there and listen to so and so because they know 
what the are talking about...and then that person gets someone in and tells them 
the same thing....come on folks...lighten up on judging and critisizing.....we 
all want the same thing but we come from all different walks of life and handle 
things differently...

bruceemery] FIREPROOF actually I think it is very quiet everywhere this morning 
because they may be confirming much of what we heard last night...bottom line if 
they had the meeting today then this should be a done deal... they decide and 
sing stuff before they meet so if they meet it stands to reason this is a done 
deal

BOBGETZ6] FIREPROOF I have been watching the rhetoric in here about cc's. 
You are a good voice of reason. Forest Gump would say, " Conference calls 
are like a bunch of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get."

BOBGETZ6] FIREPROOF There are 
are only three people who I know that I believe have solid information that 
I trust. Most of the others are like the chocolates.

[dinarmaven] Gators One thing is the deal with Kuwait... they finally made reparations after so many years... (this will finally trigger the RV when the security council gets their hands on it IMO)

[Gators] dinarmaven that does seem factual with Kuwait and I do believe that is part of ch7 that needed to get done. However, ch7 is not done

[farliegirl] Imperium I think they are all in high expectation mod but the mature ones are waiting for confirmation.

kansaschick] Just do not believe that Shabs will put that much power and money into the hands of a dictator, trading one for another is not his style. Waiting for the 3-way split in power before he allows this to go forward. Just IMO.

FIREPROOF] well i said more this morning than i have for days... i hope it helped some of you...just relax and dont get too high or too low....we are getting closer daily and we may see this in the next day or two...i'll check in later... god bless

hopeful2&2] no one is forced to listen to a guru, it is on here and if you don't believe it that is fine, but i don't understand if you don't believe what they say, why 
does folks have to make statements about what they say, just don't say nuttin 
and let it go, there just might be some people that is needing a little hope or 
uplifting and it just might be a help to them, so if you don't like it no one 
makes some one say something negative except that person doing the talking

bruceemery] farcrowe well.... I see it as very hopeful that everyone in Congress ..... EVERYONE!! VOTED DOWN OBAMA'S RECENT PROPOSED BUDGET.