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Friday, March 23, 2012

BUCKWHEAT INTEL FROM MIG , 23 MARCH

buckwheat] Well I got some more news from my contact, a top foreign currency corp. executive of WF. He informed us that the rates on the screens for the IQD have settled down and are moving between $4.30 - $4.70 (they were $4 - $14). He was always informed prior to that to be prepared to service their clients at $3.80 - $4.

 [buckwheat] 'continued' - He said some branches of banks can opt out but it was impossible for any bank as a whole to opt out of accepting an internationally traded currency. He was told from one of his bosses (yes, everyone has a boss lol) that it could go into April or May but it is fully expected to happen at any moment 

RATIONALE FOR NON TAXATION ON DINAR CONVERSIONS, 23 MARCH

RATIONALE FOR NON TAXATION ON DINAR CONVERSIONS

When you convert Dinar to US dollars, you are not selling anything that brings taxable capital gain. You aren’t selling a house, or stock, or any of the normal capital-increasing gains. The IRS read-out below states this, and it makes sense.

Suppose that you have a Dinar note pre-RV of 1,000 Dinar. You could simply fly to Iraq and spend the Dinar there to buy a flat screen TV that costs 1000 Dinar). 

Or, after cashing in here at the (say) $6 dollar rate, you now have $6,000 US dollars. You could now fly to Iraq with your $6,000. At the airport you would convert your $6,000 into Dinar so that you could buy a TV there. At the currency booth they would convert your $6,000 into 1000 Dinar (approx) and you could then buy the TV for 1000 Dinar. The conversion rate will change slightly day by day, of course.

At your Dinar cash-in time, (after the RV) you will be merely converting one currency to another – Dinar converts into US dollars. Assuming the RV has occurred, the dollars you get when you convert them have the same value as the Dinar. You won’t get any more or less than exactly the newly assigned value of the Dinar.

Therefore the IRS states below that no capital gains tax is due when you cash-in Dinar. Read carefully the IRS findings shown below and verify them for yourself.

Beware - if you put your US dollars into an interest bearing bank account (for even one day), you will gain interest and you will owe tax on the interest gained for each day. We’re advised to deposit dollars into a non-interest-bearing bank or credit union account.

Examine this IRS opinion regarding form 8938. The form was designed only to identify people with off-shore bank accounts or LLCs, or Corporations and get them to report their secret holdings.

Fortunately, none of the hype [about form 8938] applies to private citizens who happen to be holding foreign currency such as the Dinar or Vietnam Dong. IRS statements regarding Dinar follow:
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I took the time to call the IRS [Special Accounts Division]. I spoke to a supervisor named Ms. Theresa Klier (Employee# 1000349035). She informed me that this form 8938 has been in existence since June of 2011, following attempts by speculators in recent months to shield themselves from federal tax levies.

This obligation to report income that people derive from foreign currency accounts [bank accounts in other countries that hold non-US currencies] didn’t suddenly become law last week.[Reporting on your offshore accounts has been an IRS requirement for a long time.]
She said that the IRS is targeting a specific group of individuals who, until now, have been hiding assets with the specific intent of avoiding taxation by the Treasury Department. Per Ms. Klier, the federal government requires individuals to complete Form 8938 only under the following circumstances:

1) If you hold stock issued by a foreign corporation [because stocks eventually may generate capital gains when they are sold and US tax will be due.]

2) If you earn capital or have accrued interest from profits earned through a foreign business partnership

3) If you hold notes, bonds, debentures or other debt instruments issued by a foreign entity
[ because notes and bonds produce capital gain sooner or later – for which you will owe US tax.]

4) If you’ve earned interest in a foreign trust or a foreign estate [tax on interest will be due – even in a US bank account.]

5) If you hold options or other derivative instruments with respect to any of the forgoing examples or with respect to any currency or commodity that’s entered into with a foreign counter-party or issuer.
[For example Forex Traders who use a computer to buy and sell currencies, are not converting [Francs] from one currency to another. Forex traders can buy 1000 Swiss Francs (a real purchase) and then sell them back ten minutes later, hoping to have made a profit. Tax will be due on that profit. In contrast, Dinar holders aren’t selling anything when they convert Dinar to US dollars. The US dollars will be exactly equal to the value of the Dinar – assuming the RV has been announced.]

***I made a point of asking [IRS Klier] if currency secured through a licensed currency trader [like Dinar Banker] would bring a private citizen under the purview of the laws that Form 8938 is designed to enforce and she said “NO”.

Other than the conditions referenced above, Dinar holders are only obliged to turn in Form 8938 if they purchased the currency directly from a foreign agent or a foreign bank or agent operating outside of our borders***

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Anyone can call and get verification as was stated above. 

Only in the event that Congress creates a retroactive tax bill, there is currently no tax on currency conversions. If a capital gains tax happens to be announced later, it would not be fully due until April of 2013, but quarterly payments would be demanded throughout the year, and late penalties for missing the quarterly payments are very real. 

CAP1 POST, 23 MARCH

..CAP1] I'M READY TO PARTY! 

[..CAP1] BUT I WANT THE BAND FULLY WARMED UP. [Jesusloves] where is Okie he was suppose to announce it 10:02 PM

[..CAP1] Jesusloves -HE WILL. NO ONE SAID THEY WERE ANNOUNCING ANYTHING. 10:04 PM 

[..CAP1] AS OKIE WOULD SAY......AS CLOSE AS A BANDAID ON SKIN!! 

[..CAP1] footforward - HEY MY FRIEND 

[..CAP1] HEY GUYS! ALOT OF INTERESTING THINGS HAPPENING!! 

[..CAP1] STILL TRYING TO CHECK EVERYTHING OUT. 

AP1] WE WILL BE EXAMINING BANK PACKAGES FROM WELLS FARGO AND CHASE[..CAP1] SHORTLY... ALSO BOA DOESN'T HAVE A PACKAGE THAT I KNOW OF , BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT THEY WILL BEAT ANYTHING OUT THERE...

[..CAP1] LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE BANK PACKAGES WILL BE RELEASED SHORTLY, LIKE WITHIN AN HOUR OR TWO OF THE RATE POSTING LIVE. WE WILL DISCUSS THEM IN DETAIL, THEN YOU AND YOU ALONE WILL DECIDE WHERE TO GO TO EXCHANGE YOUR DINAR...

CAP1] THERE IS A PARTICULAR FORM THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED TO MAKE YOUR ACCOUNT DODD/FRANK COMPLIANT. form dsg 7322...ALSO, DOWNLOAD FORM CINFIN104... THIS IS THE FORM THAT EVERYONE HAS TO COMPLETE UPON CASHIN. THE PROPER TERM WE ARE DOING IS "EXCHANGING" CURRENCY. "CASHIN" IS A LAYMAN'S TERM... FINCEN 104

NOW, THE RATE IS NOT YET LIVE ON THE FRONT SCREENS, BUT IT WON'T BE LONG

WE SHOULD BE GOING OVER PACKAGES TOMORROW. AGAIN, ONCE THAT IS DONE, YOU MAKE THE DECISION ON WHERE YOU NEED TO GO...LOOK THESE FORMS OVER. DOWNLOAD THEM, DO A TEST BY COMPLETING THESE NOW WHILE YOUR AT HOME WITH NO STRESS...FINCEN 104 

WOULD I BE GOING OVER THIS NOW IF I THOUGHT IT WAS NEXT WEEK?

fireman117] CAP do you think this will happen soon?

CAP1] fireman117 -YES

DON'T ASK ME ABOUT TIMES. I'VE TOLD YOU ENOUGH ALREADY. IF YOU CAN'T TELL WE'RE CLOSE BY ME GOING OVER THESE FORMS, THEN WE NEED TO PRAY FOR YOU
 

FREEWAYBILL POST, 23 MARCH

So, let's just say that this baby pops tonight ... what happens then?
The first thing we do is hit our knees and thank the Good Lord for bringing this blessing to us.... For most of us, it would be just in time!

Then we go through the agony of going to the bank and exchanging our dinar and dong for US Dollars.... I think I can endure that, how about you?

Then we come back home and sit down and take a tremendous sigh of relief that it is is finally over! We push away the temptation to pick up the phone everyone that told us that this was a scam and flaunt our new found wealth..... PLEASE READ THIS SENTENCE AGAIN....

The next thing we have to do is pay our tithes and offerings. This is NOT YOUR MONEY, it belongs to GOD, in fact, ALL of it belongs to GOD! The money you keep is your spending money for you to show GOD just what a great steward you are with HIS money... 

Go buy your TROPHY.... most of you know what I am talking about, but for those of you who do not, this is ONE purchase that you make to satisfy your need to spend that is something you always wanted and never thought you would ever be able to afford it... BUY IT and then whenever you get a wild hair to spend a big chunk of money foolishly, you just look at your TROPHY and say "Hey, I got mine already" If you never listen to anything Freeway tells you but that, you will be better off...

After that, keep in touch folks.... we will have all kinds of financial experts available for a long time to help you get through that "breaking in" period where you have no idea what to do with your money and you need someone to talk to... Get and pay for a great (not just a good) tax attorney and Certified Public Accountant that will help you watch after your blessing....

So, you see my friends, if it happens tonight, you have a good outline to start with..... GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU! GIVE FORWARD!!!

Freeway Bill 

TERRYK CHAT, 23 MARCH

TERRYK 1:30 PM 3/23/2012
[NavyVet] I can't believe that some are still saying the RV has happened and that we are just waiting for it to go worldwide...... it has not. It has not... it has not. I am willing to view ANY evidence to the contrary..... We have heard this for many months now. When it RV's, it will be worldwide immediately. Period. I don't pretend to know what their motive is, I can only say they are wrong.... We will all know when it happens....and it will happen.
I AGREE WITH YOU 100% NAVYVET
[Hereiam] NavyVet Hey Buddy, Spring is here! and NO RV! yet!
[TERRYK] I HAVE NOT GOTTENT THAT WORD EITHER
[TERRYK] AND YET ALL THESE PEEPS ARE SAYING IT'S DONE
[NavyVet]  - how' seat'n ya..........
[TERRYK] I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GET THIS FROM I MEAN I GET WORD IT'S THERE IT'S READY
[TERRYK] BUT I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANYTHING THAT TELLS ME TO GET IN THE HOTROD AND GO SEE TY
[Hereiam] Could be back room deals....
[TERRYK] I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IM THINKING HERE
[TERRYK] IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE SUMMIT ALOT ARE SAYING ITS DONE ITS DONE
[TERRYK] HOPING THAT THEY ARE RIGHT SO THEY CAN SAY THAT THEY CALLED THE RV
[TERRYK] WHO CARES WHO CALLS IT
[TERRYK] NOT ME
[TERRYK] AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEEPS THAT SHOW UP THAT WE NEVER HAVE HEARD FROM BEFORE
[TERRYK] AND EVERYONE IS HANGING ONTO THEIR CRAP
[TERRYK] AS IF THEY REALLY HAVE SOMETHING
[TERRYK] I CAN PUT OUT SOME DUMB CRAP AND TWO HOURS LATER IT'S FACT
[TERRYK] AND I SEE ALOT OF THAT GOING ON FROM THESE GURU'S
[TERRYK] THEN EVERYONE JUMPS ON THE WAGON
[TERRYK] I CALL IT THE CIRCLE JERK
[TERRYK] OH HELLO
[TERRYK] AND GOOD AFTERNOON
[TERRYK] NOW I WILL SAY SOURCES ARE SAYING THIS WEEKEND IS THE DROP DEAD DATE
[TERRYK] I THINK I HAVE DIED 11 TIMES
[TERRYK] WITH THESE SOURCES
[TERRYK] KNOW WHAT I MEAN TEAM
[TERRYK] WHAT I GET A KICK OUT OF IS SO MANY PEEPS RUN TO OTHER SITES LOOKING FOR THE WORD OF THE MORNING TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO RV TODAY, AND LEAVE THE SITE THAT PUTS UP REAL ARTICLES AND SOME RUMORS
[TERRYK] AND I WILL SAY THIS ONE OF THESE SITES STILL CALLS ME AND AL FOR INFO THEN CLAIMS IT AS THEIR OWN
[TERRYK] SO GO FIGURE
[TERRYK] I CAN SEE IT HAPPENING THO
[TERRYK] I REMEMBER WAY BACK WHEN I WAS PLAYING WITH PESO'S
[TERRYK] I WAS BUYING AT 1400 PESO TO THE 1 USD
[TERRYK] I HAD A ROOM FULL OF COINS
[TERRYK] IN TEXAS
[TERRYK] IN FACT AT ONE POINT I STARTED MELTING THEM DOWN AND MAKING BOAT ANCHORS OUT OF THEM
[TERRYK] NO KIDDING
[TERRYK] I MADE MORE MONEY ON ACHORS THAN THE PESO WAS WORTH
[TERRYK] IF I REMEMBER RIGHT I THINK AT ONE POINT IT WAS 2300 PESO TO 1 USD
[TERRYK] IT WAS BAD
[TERRYK] I USED TO CARRY 25 MIL IN RESERVES EVERY MONTH
[TERRYK] I GOT TIRED OF THAT
[TERRYK] I DO ABOUT 10 MIL NOW
[TERRYK] IF I CAN AFFORD IT
[Historian]   Is everyone having a good day?
[TERRYK] HEY GIRL
[TERRYK] WHAT ARE YOU DOING
[TERRYK] NOT EATING DUMPLINGS ARE YOU
[Historian]  hi tk! 
[TERRYK] WOW YOU ARE LOVED HISTORIAN
[TERRYK] THEY HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO GET YOU THE RECIPE
[TERRYK] NEVER THOUGHT OF STUFFING THE DUMPLINGS
[TERRYK] THATS A GOOD IDEA
[TERRYK] IM GOING TO STUFF MINE WITH VODKA
[TERRYK] MAYBE RUM
[Historian] (Part 3 of 3) Do we have to see the WB head selected before it RVs? No. The shift may already have occurred, and the selection may already have been decided. What we see in the news on such matters is largely a "front". Will selection of a favorable WB head bring about the RV? No. It will simply indicate that obstacles to the RV are being addressed behind the scenes. But it is VERY significant that we see such open challenges to the old regime. It tells us that "the times, they are a-changing" . . . and the RV is very close. GO RV!!! And have a great day everyone! :)
[Historian] OK, that's it. I left out my comments on sections of the article. That's in the forum -- the entire middle section of my post. Here's the link again: http://www.thegetteam.co ··· msg53480
[TERRYK] YOU KNOW
[TERRYK] HISTORIAN THEY NAMED THE WB DUDE TODAY
[TERRYK] RIGHT
[TERRYK] ABOUT 3 HOURS AGO
[TERRYK] HE IS FROM CHINA
[Hereiam] Jim Yong Kim (born December 8, 1959) is a Korean-American physician, and 17th President of Dartmouth College. He has been a Professor of Medicine and Social Medicine and Chair of the Department of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School. He was a co-founder and later Executive Director of Partners in Health along with Paul Farmer, Todd McCormack, Thomas J. White and Ophelia Dahl. On March 2, 2009, Kim was named the 17th President of Dartmouth College, a position he formally assumed on July 1, 2009. Kim is the first Asian-American to assume the post of president at an Ivy League institution.[1] On March 23, 2012, President Obama announced that the U.S. would nominate Kim as the next President of the World Bank.[2]
[TERRYK] THANKS SAM
[TERRYK] THAT'S HIM
[Hereiam] YW
[TERRYK] OBAMA JUST HAD THE PRESS CONFERENCE
[TERRYK] A FEW HOURS AGO
[TERRYK] ACCORDING TO YOUR ARTICLES ITS WHAT HAD TO HAPPEN
[TERRYK] THANKS
[TERRYK] SO WE MAY SEE THIS TOMORROW OR SUNDAY
[TERRYK] MAYBE TONIGHT YET
[TERRYK] IT'S FRIDAY AND THEY LIKE TO DO THINGS WHEN THE BANKING SYSTEM IS CLOSED
[Historian]  Yes, indeed. I suspected they already had someone in mind or the articles would not have come out with such blatant speculations about the change. Besides . . . the progress of the RV could not have come this far if the action behind the scene didn't match it.
[TERRYK] YOU ARE SO WISE
[TERRYK] I THINK THE DUMPLINGS HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT
[TERRYK] HURRY UP EVERYONE EAT DUMPLINGS
[Historian]  This change in the WB head is huge. Folks don't realize that the RV can only happen if there is a change in global financial power. And now we are seeing that. Woo Hooooo!!!
[Hereiam] The World Bank will stop accepting nominations at 6 p.m. Eastern time Friday. If there are more than three candidates, the board will name a short list soon thereafter. The bank has said it intends to select its new president in the time for the World Bank and International Monetary Fund spring meetings in April.
[Historian]  Must be! My lucky dumplings! 
[TERRYK] SAM THEY HAVE NAMED THE NEW PRESIDENT OF WB TODAY
[TERRYK] MR KIM GOT IT
[TERRYK] IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY FLOP EARS
[Hereiam] 
[TERRYK] DID YOU KNOW THAT HE DID NOT STEP FOOT INTO THE USA UNTIL HE WENT TO COLLEGE
[TERRYK] FYI
[TERRYK] AND THAT HE HAS CHANGED LAWS THAT EFFECT OVER 110 ISSUES PUTTING DOWN CHRISTIANS
[TERRYK] NOT SPEAKING BAD ABOUT THE DUDE
[TERRYK] BUT COME ON
[Historian]  Is that the new WB Head, or just the a nomination for the head? The head is not normally picked until mid- to late-April.
[TERRYK] THEY ANNOUNCED IT JUST 3 HOURS AGO HISTORIAN
[Hereiam] Nomination per the article
[TERRYK] WAS A PRESS CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT BY OBAMA
[TERRYK] HILLIARY
[TERRYK] AND MR KIM ON WHITE HOUSE YARD
[Hereiam] By ANNIE LOWREY Published: March 23, 2012 RECOMMEND TWITTER LINKEDIN COMMENTS (140) SIGN IN TO E-MAIL PRINT REPRINTS SHARE WASHINGTON — The White House on Friday named Jim Yong Kim, the president of Dartmouth College and a global health expert, as its nominee to lead the World Bank
[Historian]  Hereiam Hmmmm . . . we need to check on that. Sounds like a nomination.
[Historian]  Hereiam I think we are still waiting on seeing the outcome of this.
[TERRYK] WELL I MAYBE WRONG BUT I COULD SWEAR OBAMA ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF WB
[asgower] Hereiam Good post, I just finished reading an article in my investment world alluding to China's part in our financial world and of course advising where to invest. This nomination is in line with where U.S.'s future is going. In fact I'm listening to the video portion for a second time !!!
[TERRYK] BUT IT'S ALL GOOD
[TERRYK] OK ALL I GOT TO GO GET READY FOR THIS STORM COMING IN
[TERRYK] AGAIN
[Historian]  Likely the USA's nomination for the post.
[TERRYK] WEIRD WEATHER
[TERRYK] 94 YESTERDAY
[Hereiam] NYTIMES Today....Dr. Kim is not the only candidate for the World Bank job. On Friday, Angola, South Africa and Nigeria put forward Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the Nigerian finance minister and former World Bank official. José Antonio Ocampo, the former finance minister of Colombia and a United Nations official, is rumored to be another candidate.
[Historian]  I have to run too. See you later! 
[TERRYK] GOD BLESS ALL
 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE , 23 MARCH

3-23-2012  Intel Guru BellaGrits   I believe this will run its course the way it is planned... It'll go when it goes...we are closer than ever.

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg   WE ARE STILL IN THE SUNLIGHT...WAITING FOR THE POT OF GOLD.

3-23-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17    TARRIFS CREATE INFLATION...AND IF YOUR ALREADY LOW...HUGE INFLATION AND JUNE 1ST MEANS THEY MUST, MUST HAVE A TRADEABLE AND RECOGNIZED CURRENCY... IF...AFTER JUNE 1ST...IRAQS DINAR IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH....INFLATION WILL SKY ROCKET.  BANKS NEED ACCOUNTS, ISX NEEDS HELP AS WELL ESPECIALLY NOW...THAT IRAQ MUST BE ACKNOWLEDGED BY JUNE 1ST.  SO...JUNE 1ST OR BEFORE IS A WINDOW.

3-23-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuru   [Post 1 of 4]  Iraq is in the process of following through with the proper legislation necessary for full accession to the WTO. This is paramount to revitalizing their economy.  To become full members of the WTO article VI stipulates that a county must have a convertible currency. Implementing phase 2 of Iraq's currency reform, deleting the zeros and raising the exchange rate is the only remaining step to meet these requirements.   ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

3-23-2012  Newshound Guru Doc   [Post 2 of 3]   We warned all several weeks ago that the hype of the RV would become extremely intense leading up to the Summit.  While we hope everything will be put in place for the RV prior to the Summit we fear time to do so is quickly evaporating.  We also disagree with the premiss that the RV has to happen before the Summit.  While we agree with the reasons that it would be good for it to happen prior to the Summit, it does not have to.  The RV will happen when Iraq is completely ready for it to and not before.   ["continued in post 3...stay tuned"]

3-23-2012  Newshound Guru 8Ball   I still think Saturday, Sunday and or Monday, Just before the Summit...The Convention maybe a decoy so we think that there is more left to do. 

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Bulldog75   WE ARE IN THE 'BEST POSITION' EVER...THE IQD AND DONG ARE EXTREMELY STRONG IN STRENGTH & VALUE...BANKS ARE PREPARING. WE ANTICIPATE GREAT NEWS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

3-23-2012  Newshound Guru Doc  [Post 1of 3]  We are very excited that everything we believe needs to be addressed prior to and in support of an RV is being addressed.  We do disagree with the statement "all is done".  We can not find concrete proof that Eril, HCL, ministers, chapter 7, etc. are done. Our opinion is if these things are not solidified by this Saturday we are most likely looking at June at the earliest.  The reason for this is the entire GOI including the CBI is shut down starting Sunday for a week in concert with the Summit.  After the Summit Parliament has a scheduled break from mid April to mid May.  This gives Parliament only 2 weeks of in session time between now and late May.   ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg  We feel that there will be lots of verifications coming out today and tomorrow...yesterday was the day...now is just paperwork...it is over just not released to public so we cannot really confirm it...cbi closed until april 2nd as is forex...leaves us with the bank screens...THE CBI WILL BE CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 2ND WHILE WE do cash in...there will be no early cashins...there will be an order based on holdings...largest first...so it may take 10 days...but all will have a chance...you will be able to cashin on your date before the 2nd...probably next week...instructions will be advertised and posted...Rate not confirmed yet.

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Poppy3  the imf had $3.22 to $3.86 approved - posted on their site in october last year...many times their figures...shows their budget is based on $3.41.

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Bluwolf   WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF SEEING THIS RV'S GO LIVE AT ANY SECOND. NEWS...TELL US THAT IT IS ACTUALLY THERE ON ALL BANK INSTITUTIONS. THE TIMEFRAME IS NOW IN FAVOR OF ALL WHO HAS INVESTED, ONCE THE BANKS TALK YOU WILL BE ON YOUR WAY TO CASH IN. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT IS THIS MORNING, NOR TODAY, NOR TONIGHT, NOR MONDAY, NOR SATURDAY, NOR SUNDAY, IT WILL JUST POP UP AT ANY TIME NOW.  PLEASE BE CLEAR I AM NOT CALLING THE RV FOR WE ALL KNOW THAT RV HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SOME TIME NOW...WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR ALL RV'S TO GO OUT INTERNATIONALLY.

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    I AM FULLY EXPECTING A VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE FROM THE SANDBOX TODAY...EVERYTHING IS VERY PROGRESSIVE AT THIS TIME

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Cap1   GREAT DAY FOR AN RV!! THE RATE IS STILL NOT LIVE ON THE TELLER SCREENS...YET. BUT IT'S COMINGTHINGS HAPPENED YESTERDAY THAT MADE THIS A "NO TURNING BACK" ISSUE NOW AND MAJOR THINGS HAPPENED THIS MORNING THAT MADE IT A DEFINITE "NO TURNING BACK" ISSUE. IT WAS A MAJOR DEAL AND IT'S ALL GOOD FOR US.   DON'T HAVE A TIME FRAME, BUT WE WILL WAIT.  I KNOW THAT SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE ALREADY POSITIONED AT BANKS.  IT CAN RV AT ANYTIME.

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Poppy3  the reason for the national conference...was supposed...to set all ministers , activate the erbil, hcl, budget etc. It has all been done, they just plan to activate and announce all of it at the same time. Like the full membership to the WTO and full release of 7, all at one time.

3-23-2012  Intel Guru Blaino   maliki has signed over everything...it's settled and done...we all assumed that the instant, the second, the very nano moment that maliki turned over the switch to shabibi the first thing he'd do was RV.. that's not going to happen...when he feels the time is right he will activate

BWM POST , 23 MARCH

11:19 AM CST 3sIntel [BWM] Just came in to touch on some things that were going around yesterday… to make sure we have clarity on those in regards to cashin since that has been discussed now…
[BWM] we have discussed this a number of times but like everything else, it can’t hurt to go back over those things…
[BWM] in regards to cashin, one of the things to avoid wasting time is the ficen104 form. This form will be filled out at the bank (or cashin location) and will detail how much you are depositing, wiring or getting in cash..
[BWM] the most important thing about this form you need to know is that YOU CANNOT FILL THIS OUT IN ADVANCE… IT MUST BE FILLED OUT IN FRONT OF CASHIN PERSONNEL
[BWM] I would suggest (depending on your area) not just flocking to the bank… depending on the amount of dinar you have most will require or at least request an appt..
[.FG] BWM WF told me they do it electronically during cashin
[BWM] .FG that is possible at MOST banks… but the main point is don’t waste time doing this beforehand…. it is unnecessary
[BWM] are there any other cashin questions or concerns anyone has we can try to address?
[texasslot] BWM Do you recommend that we photocopy our Dinar before cashin? Thanks..
[BWM] texasslot I’m looking at that this way… I don’t plan on letting them take the dinar out of my site.. therefore issues with counterfeiting are not that much of a concern to me… if you don’t have any other option other than sending it off then yes, I would follow the photocopy rules strictly
[starbuck3] BWM would you happen to know if the international Foreign currency locations of Wells Fargo only deposit in WF or will they deposit anywhere…
[BWM] starbuck3 WF will try to route most to wealth managment accounts depending on the amount of dinar you hold from my understanding
[spicegirl] BWM r we still going to get like some area banks where they will be doing currency cash in i believe .Katt said she would work on this by state…??
[BWM] spicegirl again, most of the concern for the banks will be how much dinar you have and how long you are willing to deposit with them… local banks (depending on if national or regional) will only deal with things as they are able to… again, be concerned with onsite cashin
[BWM] teaqkota I wouldn’t try to bring an entire group in, unless the site can hold that.. best to select a couple to negotiate for you but that would be dictated by the comfort level of the ppl you know
[hummingbirdrose] BWM, heard a lot of talk about receiving accounts and pass through accounts, 
etc. It’s sort of confusing. What are you going to do?
[BWM] hummingbirdrose if you are depositing directly to bank no worries… hopefully you will be able to put directly into the accounts you want.. again, banks will give you someone to set up these accounts for free.. as far as wires go.. again, if you send to bank and have them distribute into the accounts you should be fine
[BWM] honeybelle I’m sure a compilation of places to go will be drafted at some point… it may be hit or miss for the rural folks like me for a bit
[wisdomkale] most wealth mgrs start a $250K. if you make them aware that you are introducing yourself to build a relationship because you have an investment in foreign currency, then more than likely they will know what you are talking about immediately.
[BWM] wisdomkale I would see branch manager and see if they direct you to wealth manager…. it will depend upon the banks guidelines as to how much you are depositing in USD
[thudz] BWM ? Have any deals been made between Wells Fargo and brokers such as Dinar Banker to provide a streamlined processed of wiring funds from the broker straight to your Wells Fargo account? During a recent Q & A Studley had mentioned being in duscussions with Wells Fargo regarding this matter.
[BWM] thudz I wouldn’t count on any specific deals because it all has to go through the main system anyway… so there is no “direct” type of transfer they could do as such
[miz dixie2] BWM I was at chase yesterday and they told me there is no difference in the value of the $ whether it is fed or UST that gold does not back anything it is just a commodity and would not change the value of the $. Any comment
[BWM] miz dixie2 you are correct… there is no difference in value… it’s the PROTECTION that is the complication…
[cantwait] BWM If WF does on-site verification with a black light, credits my account and then takes the Dinar and says they have to get final verification, what do I need to do, if anything – other than that they accept the original verification.? thanks
[BWM] cantwait ok.. MY UNDERSTANDING is that once they do on site verification and have signed off on it THEY have taken full responsibility for this when they send it off… GET IT IN WRITING and keep this on file
[BWM] [Beefy] Is there anyway WF can give a list of branches that will do on site verifications? WE WILL SEE WHAT COMES OF THIS… HOW MUCH INFO WE WILL GET FROM THE BANKS WILL NOT BE KNOWN UNTIL THE RATE IS RELEASED
[BWM] [chickenfry] as u know, “exchanging” is the proper term for converting currency….cap1 reminded his folks of that last night..the only reason i bring it up is cuz i believe banks will be looking for “yokels” they can take advantage of….”cashing” will be a marker. GOOD POINT MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE “EDUCATED” ON THIS… AS WE’VE SAID BEFORE, BE WILLING TO WALK OUT IF YOU DON’T FEEL YOU ARE GETTING THE BEST DEAL
[BWM] [mickbeme] I am a little confused, I keep hearing to have your account set up and make an appt for cashin. What if you don’t have any money to open an account? IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH BANKS MOST HAVE SAID DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF DINAR YOU ARE EXCHANGING THEY WILL WANT TO OPEN NEW ACCOUNTS FOR YOU THROUGH THE WEALTH MANAGEMENT DIVISION.. ALSO REMEMBER THEY GET MORE CREDIT FOR OPENING NEW ACCOUNTS AND DEPOSITS TOWARD THEIR CREDIT RATINGS
[BWM] [gingergold] Just came on line so I might have missed something. ? I thought I read in Dinar Recaps that we should get a cashiers check from Dinar Banker rather than have them wire funds to a bank account. What is your view on that? THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN OVER WHETHER YOUR ACCOUNTS CAN BE HELD WITH WIRES OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT… TO BE HONEST IF YOU FIRST) NOTIFY YOUR BANK TO EXPECT A LARGE TRANSFER AND WORK WITH THEM FROM THE BEGINNING YOU CAN ALLEVIATE SOME ISSUES THERE AND SECONDLY) THE BIGGEST CONCERN IMO IS THE SECONDARY MOVEMENTS OF THE MONEY (FOR EXAMPLE; A 500K WIRE FOR A NEW HOUSE) THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE MONEY FROM DB COMES FROM TO YOUR BANK BUT WHEN YOU START SPENDING LIKE MILLIONAIRE AFTER YOUR ACCOUNT HAS HAD A $50 BALANCE FOR 2 YEARS IT WILL LOOK SUSPICIOUS
[miz dixie2] BWM I asked about that and the answer was they UST offered no protection only the 250,000 per signiture on the acc’t.But when you took the $ out to use they would still be worth what every other $ was worth.
[BWM] miz dixie2 THEN THEY WEREN’T TRUTHFUL BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE COVERAGE THROUGH THE END OF YEAR… AND THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR DOESN’T CHANGE IN YOUR ACCT… AGAIN, IT’S THE “PROTECTION” OF THE VALUE “IN” THE ACCOUNT THAT SOME ARE WORRIED ABOUT… 
[BWM] codreamer59 haha you must bank in the hood… I’m sorry but I’m one of those leave my keys in the car, door unlocked and get out of my way to the door ppl… I just don’t think that they won’t understand the need for security and be concerned if they feel necessary.. again, most banks will dictate which branches handle cashin due to security reasons
 

BELLAGRITS POST, 23 MARCH

[BellaGrits] Hi, all...............It was reported one of the agencies from the US flew to IRAQ and picked up a document that was necessary -- just a flyby to let you know the document is on US soil...... and in safe hands as of now. The progression of this event has had multiple changes and each time this happens, we incur more documents......just as any business. In no way take that as an intentional "stall" or a "delay" ..... it happened as quickly as it was fixed..... Have a GREAT day..... God Bless You all. ~Bella

[BellaGrits] Readynow1 I sure hope so....we really dont have that news to give you at this point....be nice to see a rate regardless if we cashout or not.....however, this isn't our call as you know-- we have no control....will report what we can and when we can.

[goshiluvu] BellaGrits so we MIGHT have confirmation today, but no currency exchanges until next week, is that correct?

[BellaGrits] goshiluvu anything is possible in this ride; I pray we hear something today affirmative.... well, let me say it better.... "with our eyes" ..... how's that? 

BULLDOG POST, 23 MARCH

MARCH 23,2012


BULLDOG75: 12:24: RE-VALUATION: WE BELIEVE AND KNOWINGLY MANIFEST A FUTURE OF PROSPERITY. WE BLESS OUR SELF KNOWING WE ARE MEANT TO BE HERE NOW. WE ARE IN THE 'BEST POSITION' EVER. "HOW SWEET IT IS" KNOWING THE FRUITS AND MANNA SHALL COME TO FRUITION IN THIS IQD ADVENTURE THROUGH OUR BELIEF, KNOWLEDGE AND OPTIMISM. WE ARE BLESSED TO BE HERE. GOD WILL DECIDE THIS FOR NO MAN KNOWS 'THE EXACT DATE/RATE'. WE ANTICIPATE ONLY THE BLESSED BEST. THE IQD AND DONG ARE EXTREMELY STRONG IN STRENGTH & VALUE. WE STAY BUCKLED IN OUR 747. WE ARE SAFE & DESTINED FOR GREATNESS WITH THE POWER TO CHANGE OUR WORLD TO BE AN EVEN BETTER PLACE. BANKS ARE PREPARING. WE ANTICIPATE GREAT NEWS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. SKIES ARE CLEAR. WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED. THE IQD FUTURE IS VERY BRIGHT. OUR TIME IS NIGH, NEAR & DEAR. WE USE PASSPORTS FOR ID's & NEVER USE OUR HOME ADDRESS FOR ANYTHING. WE BUCKLE UP.
  

JONNY POST, 23 MARCH

jonnywg] jmh yesterday was the day ........now is just paperwork............... 357 people arrested or resigbed in banking in last month............ most of the dirty work is done

[TUG] .jonnywg .jonnywg hi there..in your opinion and with the infromation you are receiving do you think we will be cashing out on Monday? Tyia

[.jonnywg] TUG looks good for next week

[.jonnywg] sandytob sandytob next week but there will be lots of time

[.jonnywg] queenmum it is over just not released to public so we cannot really confirm it............keep the faith

[.jonnywg] Blessedby cbi closed until april 2nd as is forex ......... leaves us with the bank screensith

[.jonnywg] pepperinoblue there will be no early cashins.......... there will be an order based on holdings..... largest first............ so it may take 10 days.......... but all will have a chance 

[.jonnywg] sharikimkay8 you will be able to cashin on your date before the 2nd........probably next week

Here's the full jonny chat posted by AndieZ1

12:30PM CST: 3Sintel [.jonnywg] We feel that there will be lots of verifications coming out today and tomorrow.......... stay tuned while we launch the new era

[jmh] Does your statement mean today is not an option??

[.jonnywg] jmh yesterday was the day ........now is just paperwork............... 357 people arrested or resigned in banking in last month............ most of the dirty work is done

[patriot1490] Does this mean the banks get the advantage in the RV?

[.jonnywg] patriot1490 yes

[JimmySmack] Would this be a 'soft-opening' of the rv across the world OR all at once?

[.jonnywg] JimmySmack no it will be a hard opening everywhere

[shalala] I think maybe I am in the doghouse. And do you feel we will definitely be in the banks next week based on your intel?

[.jonnywg] shalala - Why in doghouse? and yes

[shalala] You didn't answer me the first 3 times I know you are busy and we are like vultures!!! Thanks again for all you do! I am just surprised you are sure today is not the day!!! I was hoping maybe the 2:00 alignment. Have a blessed relaxing weekend!

[hoou] ABC breaking news -- President Obama nominates Dartmouth College President to head World Bank

[.jonnywg] hoou - Yes

[electricman75] Why did bluwolf give a parting statement if this is not over yet?

[.jonnywg] electricman75 bluwolf is bluwolf lol

[pepperinoblue] Could the banks cash in people early at their rate?

[.jonnywg] pepperinoblue - There will be no early cash ins.......... there will be an order based on holdings..... largest first............ so it may take 10 days.......... but all will have a chance

[Dinar2001] If the cbi is closed until april 2nd does that mean dinar banker can't cash us out until then???

[.jonnywg] Dinar2001 - No they will cash with the rest

[rdailey] blessedinohio Warka Bank is closed til April 2, but I don't believe that the CBI is closed.

[.jonnywg] rdailey - CBI should be closed

[codreamer59] How will they know how much we hold?

[.jonnywg] codreamer59 when you go to cashin you will tell them then they will give you a date

[.jonnywg] sharikimkay8 - You will be able to cash in on your date before the 2nd........probably next week

[$ay_its_over] I thought the guys last night were leaving the rate announcement to you....well

[.jonnywg] $ay_its_over - Rate not confirmed yet

[kittykat4fun] Are you saying we go to the bank or call in we tell them how much we have and we cash in? Will that be for all banks? Some banks will only have 100 or so people like here in the mid west area.. Why would anyone have to wait to cash in?

[.jonnywg] kittykat4fun instructions will be advertised and posted

[rjandrj2] CAP1 stated that this REALLY is at a no turning back point.... Do you agree?

[.jonnywg] rjandrj2 - Yes

[codreamer59] Do you think we'll be able to cash in VND earlier than IQD - or both at the same time?

[.jonnywg] codreamer59 - Same time

[.jonnywg] There is NO POINT TO CALL THE BANKS, SO DO NOT CALL THE BANKS

[RG7] How soon will the bank packages be available ?

[.jonnywg] RG7 - A FEW HOURS AFTER IT IS OFFICIAL

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] Do you think or have intel that tells you that the Sunday the 25th is the drop dead day for this to show or the Saudi's and Kuwait's no show the Arab Summit?

[.jonnywg] Austin-Powers-For-PM Austin-Powers-For-PM NO SUCH THING AS A DROP DEAD DATE

[mike1422] Will the RV be a managed float?

[.jonnywg] mike1422 - NO COMMENTS ON THE MANAGED FLOAT ISSUE

[Eleanor] oldgeezer I called the Bank and they told me to ask .jonnywg

[.jonnywg] Eleanor - IF YOU DID, DO NOT CALL ME ANY MORE.

moneyme] Now it sounds like April 2

[.jonnywg] moneyme NO ONE SAID APRIL 2ND ........PLEASE READ THE POSTS BEFORE COMMENTING.......... THE CBI WILL BE CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 2ND WHILE WE do cash in