,
DINARESGURUS.BLOGSPOT.COM_________________ _______

Monday, January 23, 2012

STUDLEY POST, 23 JAN


[Studley] how is everyone tonight???

[Studley] I can only stay on for bout 20 min, I hope everyone is ok

[Studley] I can't really give an update, lots of info I can't put out, but I can say we are at a breaking point, lots of action at the agencies, banks are begging for this to be over, AGAIN, I WOULD NOT GET INTO THE TODAY TOMORROW ROLLERCOASTER

Studley] sln... I really can't.... there are lots of bad info out in dinar community.... I would stick with the basics of currency play.... no one will know when this is coming.... we are nearing the end... should have already happened....

[Studley] shaby.... yes, lots of misinformation.... they do that to purposely keep the speculators away from the exact target

[HeIsFaithful] Studley Thanks for sharing....appreciate your attitude.

Studley] cantwait.... that Act relates to sophisticated investor laws... it is very complicated... you should have your financial advisor explain the ground rules

[Studley] Robinhood... oil is a small part of this... as long as it stays above 85, we are ok

Studley] bowie... stick with the fundamentals.... sorry guys I gotta take this call... I'll be back... stay strong.... part of the plan is to get you to release your dinars.... look at the big picture... they have to rv... they need a tradeable currency

SUDDEN WEALTH: AVOIDING 12 DEADLY MISTAKES, 23 JAN

DINAR GURUS UPDATED, 23 JAN


1-23-2012  Guru Checkmate    we see this as an hourly watch as nothing is left to happen – the currency movement is happening on the CBI which will continue – this is not calling it for this hour or this day – but we are saying it is any hour and any time any day…this is about to show up anytime.
1-23-2012  Gurus Okie_Oil_Man & Bulldog75   Due to info just received; the second rat that gets the cheese scenario, may not be applicable at this time. It appears that there is a posibility that the forthcoming rate will be high enough and equitable enough, that we should not take the chance on waiting. It may be an astute move on everyone’s part, to consider cashing in asap. It is going to be up to each individual what one would be satisfied with regarding the initial rate. A good rule of thumb is, one will never go broke making a profit.
1-23-2012  Guru Bluwolf    Today is the Chinese New Year and all markets and banks are close today to business. Where does this places the rv’s, well imo coming out tonight and should be projected for tommorow tuesday, you see all countries should be syncronize to recieve this information simultaniously and none is to be left out when it comes to the pending rv information. All my contacts are on lock down so there is no info coming in from none of them.
1-23-2012  Guru Jonnywg   I cannot explain yet why we are not cashing in. It appears all is done and ready but yet we wait. I have faith that we will find the answers…good or bad.
1-23-2012  Guru Doc   More great hints as to the CBI’s strategy…One article was very forth coming and said the target exchange rate in the near term will be 1150…we are very excited that it appears the CBI has begun it march toward its stated ultimate RV rate of $1 to $1.3.   The problem right now is that the CBI is constrained as to how fast it can move the rate due to chapter 7 and the lack of passed laws to support the ultimate RV value. The budget HAS NOT been approved…Erbil was also reported as being very close with a vote in Parliament 2-3 weeks away.  The only reported timing for chapter 7 by the UNSC is June.  We maintain that the minimum time for resolution of these issues is mid to late February.  We report, you decide. [read entire post in Dinar Guru Blog - link above]
1-23-2012  Guru TerryK    just got the call from my buddy in reno…he has met with the exchange peeps from this bank…they are meeting this afternoon for the last of the exchange procedures… HE IS HEARING TOMORROW IS THE DAY…THE RATE-WOW…HE WAS TOLD TO HANG ONTO HIS SOCKS.  HE DOES NOT KNOW THE RATE BUT IT IS HIGH.
1-23-2012  Guru Bulldog75    THIS IS ALL GOOD TO GO AND SHOULD BE READY, SET, GO FOR TOMORROW.  AND O WILL CAP IT OFF WITH HIS ‘STATE OF THE UNION’ ADDRESS ON TUESDAY,/ TOMORROW NIGHT.  ALL THE RATES ARE LOCKED AND IN THE SLOTS.  NOTHING NOW SHOULD HOLD THIS BACK, IMHO. [full Question & Answer in Dinar Guru Blog - link above]
1-23-2012  Guru BGG    So how about some straight RV talk??  Whats the real scoop? When there is a “power sharing” deal IMPLEMENTED and they get the ministers announced – there will be an RV.  End of story…until these two items are fully handled we won’t see an RV.   How close are we -really??  It is distinctly possible we are within a few days yet… not likely tonite…It is my belief (and that is all) these required items have been agreed to – just not finalized. We could see this very soon.
1-23-2012  Guru Jonnywg    just a short report that ust is still in lockdown…no reports…i will get info and come back…nothing negative, actually nothing at all.
1-23-2012  Guru Bluwolf   we are just waiting for all 195 RV to show up, so as you can see this is a big occasion and a big event. All is looking good and it will pop up soon enough, there is some protocol in the air nothing mayor it’s more cosmetic…I give no dates nor rates, just information…Goi is done chap 7 is done…they are sovereign…this RV is the last step that has to be fulfilled by the UN.
1-23-2012  Guru Jonnywg  I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE 75,000 PLUS PEOPLE THAT PINGED THE CBI LAST NIGHT AND FORCED THEM TO GO LIVE…HOWEVER WE DO NOT HAVE IT ON THE BANK SCREENS YET…BUT THE DAY HAS JUST BEGUN…OBAMA IS TO SPEAK. SO WE ARE READY YET AGAIN.  WE WILL HAVE MORE INFO RE THE STATUS BY 11 AM – NOON AND I WILL GET BACK…IF IT IS TIME SENSITIVE I WILL DECIDE HOW MUCH IT WILL EFFECT THINGS AND GO FROM THERE…INFO WILL COME TODAY.
1-23-2012  Guru Historian   [a few people are questioning that Kuwait RV really didn't happen where people made money]  This is in response to the naysayers…article from the New York Times | March 25, 1991 | After the War; No Electricity but Kuwait Reopens Its Banks. “Banks reopened for the first time since Iraqi occupation forces shut them down in December. Thousands of people lined up to exchange their old Kuwaiti dinars for crisp new ones and to withdraw a limited amount of money…All other old dinars can be exchanged for new ones on a one-to-one rate until May 7, when the old dinars become invalid. The new official exchange rate is 3.47 American dollars for one new Kuwaiti dinar.”  [read entire chat in Dinar Guru blog - link above]
1-23-2012  Guru Bluwolf   UST still on lockdown no news as of yet, but we are still good to go at any time… the cbi was dormant for more than a year, it was activated about a week ago and now it is being prep up for a outcoming event.
1-23-2012  Guru Med   WAS READING ANOTHER GREAT POST ON THE POSITIVE EFFECTS OF THE DRAFT BILL TO DELETE THE ZERO’S…MANY ARE NOW SEEING THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE AND IT TOOK THEM YEARS TO SAY WHAT WE SAID YEARS AGO –  THERE IS NO ECONOMIC POWER IN THE WORLD THAT DOES NOT HAVE A TRADEABLE CURRENCY.    THIS IS NOT AN RV MONDAY OR FRIDAY DISCUSSION BUT DANG WE ARE IN THE HOME STRETCH AFTER ALMOST 8 YRS…THE OUTCOME WILL BE IN OUR NEAR FUTURE…NOT SAYING THE DREADED WORD SOON.   LOL

SOONERFAN CHAT, 23 JAN

4:13 PM [elvisgirl] soonerfan62 Are the UST staying in lockdown until RV???? So, when they come out we have RV???? thanks tigger

4:13 PM [soonerfan62] elvisgirl They'll be out tomorrow IMO

[soonerfan62] There are so many intel people that have helped you guys out for months or even years that a a lot more deservent and I would immediately contact Jonnywg, OKIE or some one that has been busting their *bleep* (sorry) for a lot longer than me. I am just glad to be a part of the team and can bring something

[Hebrews11:1] soonerfan62 - In your opinion, what is the role of the UST and why are they still in lockdown at this final hour? Thanks!

4:29 PM [soonerfan62] Hebrews11:1 IMO to get all the rates entered for a frieken RV

[soonerfan62] Guys just know you have made it through your last RV weekend, and I trulu,truly believe that

aceman] soonerfan62 do you think the chinese banks being closed for the week will affect this?
4:32 PM [soonerfan62] aceman No they will get their money and lots of it

soonerfan62] Hebrews11:1 Could be at the bank on Wed but probable Thrsday

PTR CHAT: TONY & DAN POST, 23 JAN

PTR CALL 1-23-12  TONY.and Dan   
By DebTarheelGirl

DAN STATES - Lots of craziness came out this weekend – 4-5 weeks ago we heard that this was over and we heard various rumors and we got excited and thought this revalue as it was finally coming to an end… we saw it wrapping up and we got excited and now where is it?

DAN STATES - we see this as an hourly watch as nothing is left to happen – the currency movement is happening on the CBI which will continue –this is not calling it for this hour or this day – but we are saying it is any hour and any time any day

DAN STATES - today we were like what is going on? – the positive part is even tho negative news is out there we understand you are frustrated – we keep hearing its over and we are still here till its over – that’s rough on some and the expectations are so high and YES It is about to conclude – positive things are still going on today – every day we are moving forward –  lots of things are going on and we will be here for you till this goes...

DAN STATES - These boards are currency boards not religious boards and not political boards – we are here about finances – you can say hallelujah and you are praying but no detailed discussions – end of story –we are a financial board like real estate talk etc…

TONY.. STATES – there is a lot of news – it still is happening – nothing was stopped and all is still excited – we will see some announcements tomorrow in Iraq which we were talking place and some say NO RV till these announcements and they are scheduled for tomorrow = Christine LeGarde and the IMF funds and where it going to come from was stated by her today – 

TONY.. STATES – Obama, Bernanke & Geithner were to speak over the weekend and they did not do that & it may still happen not sure if before the RV or after –& the state of the union may come after the RV or before the RV – the IMF is supposed to do some things tomorrow or Wed re: the economy – the world will change for the better – even if you have this money you need to watch out some things that are happening now…after LeGarde’s speech- it may take place – we heard the RV was delayed due to funny things –and due to the Chinese New year – TONY.. States we do not believe it was not delayed for that – banks can either be open or closed for this that does not matter it will show up –
TONY.. STATES - is still looking for this tonight = tomorrow – this week and I do not believe it will go by the end of the week

TONY STATES -  it was to go yesterday for real – and those high up waiting 8 years got the phone call it was to go yesterday and it did not - so we are still in a good position and the day is not over… 

TONY.. STATES - since 8:30 this AM  I have yet to get off the phone – it’s been all good and this will be a week you all will remember for a long, long time not just from the RV but from the speeches to come in this week…

DAN STATES – The hourly watch has to frustrate you so we are trying to focus on what to do after the RV now and preparing as we KNOW this is about to show up anytime..

TONY.. STATES – its in every single instance of FOREX & Banking all has the numbers for this to happen as its all done – security is in place, money is in place there is NOTHING we are waiting for except the announcement –

TONY.. STATES - if they are waiting for the GOI, HCL its going to be announced tomorrow in Iraq so we are told - here economy banking system was to change on Sunday and it was to happen on Sunday – the IMF says the OLD global economy structure was going to change and they will make this plain this week - so that is ALL we have waited for.

TONY.. STATES – THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO BE DONE NO WHERE – THIS IS GOING TO SHOW UP ANYTIME NOW.

DAN states we are waiting on these financial plans to be finalized but this is all positive as its any time now.

TONY.. STATES everyone should know to be positive as you will be in a position that a WHOLELOT OF FOLKS will not – BE HAPPY as this is going to happen it was to last night & this AM but we know this is going too – do not let that bother you – so just thank GOD for this coming

TONY.. STATES - the only way to get the rare I am hearing is for US dollar to go down - we are in a good position that a whole lot of folks walking the streets will not be - Have an attitude that you are GLAD you got Dinar & do not dwell that it did not happen yet – stay motivated – we will be blessed beyond our wildest dreams –

GARY STATES – we are all in the same boat – we hear that movement is forward  banks are still expecting this – the agencies involved putting this through and all expecting this in a short time fashion – 

GARY STATES - they are not sure of the delay except that some want to be part of the announcement of this RV.   Some folks were to be ready & this could be the delay – 

GARY STATES - the powers that be we spoke to are all very positive and watching this move forward and are waiting – there are NO problems no where – no departments, banks or countries at all.

TONY.. STATES - What we are told was the event itself that has had a delay – waiting for all to be in place  a TIMING issue yesterday – all were prepared. 

TONY.. STATES - Obama was supposed to have a speech yesterday they were prepared but didn’t – the state of the union is ready and today they said they need 500 billion dollars so where are they going to get this –

TONY.. STATES -  so if anything the IMF and state of the union speech and RV all in one day?? this is WOW… I was told there was a 24-48 hour delay with WEDNESDAY being end of the 48 hours and it is still slated for ANY MINUTE. 

TONY.. STATES - I got a call just 30 min ago that people were told to be at the bank for 9am tomorrow and they can cash them out … LET NO ONE SAY it’s being delayed for 20 days or the like – ITS ALL READY TO GO NOW says ALL sources… 

GARY STATES =- I am waiting with great anticipation and the dealers are on the phone with us and we are all on standby.

DAN STATES – we were told everyday now that its all done and we were told about the small movement of currency but I said bologna to that movement and I didn’t believe it and then it did happen SO write that down Dan is wrong again…

TONY.. STATES – the movement of the currency does not make sense but the network is available now and we can find out things fastest then Kuwait did back them – 

TONY.. STATES - the CBI site was down for hours – then they went to look with IT guys and they hid the front page is what they were doing but the whole site was not down…the server was not down – they were hiding the page from us.

TONY.. STATES - The next RV of a currency will not take this long as they won’t let this many people get in…

TONY.. STATES – the Sunday speech was to talk about the new global financial system & the economy ... MOST would not understand but Dinarians would understand when the speech does take place... The IMF and State of the union speeches in the same day would confuse all of us – we are privilege to have folks in the right positions so we know its coming as one speech was delayed and 

TONY. STATES - Friday and Saturday things were in place and TO BE HONEST I am not sure why this RV did not go Sunday nor why the speech did not go as reporters were put in the room waiting... still unsure. 

TONY.. STATES that what is going on in Iran is not good and this RV is really being pushed by that due to oil requirements and gas pricing going up...

TONY.. STATES – RE: the next currency to revalue – look up the Dodd Frank Rule – you have to have a net worth of $10 million to be in the net currency revaluation – some traders may or may NOT to be able to sell this – there are ways to form trusts to get to this value to be able to be in future revaluations...

TONY.. STATES – Obama was to give that speech on Sunday I wa slooking for Geithner but who knows now – which ever one was to give it Christine LeGarde gave one today and another one this week and the State of the Union tomorrow – LeGarde’s speech will be very important – listen to her speech – as far as the global economy is going to be listen to her speech... It will be on all the news channels ... we will tell you the time saying when so you can listen....

TONY.. STATES - PAY ATTENTION – I have no clue about what the state of the union is going to say but IMPORTANT TO OUR FUTURE YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO IMF’s LEGARDE’S NEXT SPEECH SOMETIME THIS WEEK.

TONY.. STATES – be ready to move when you hear the Libyan currency is ready – it will be MUCH Faster then

TONY.. STATES - I am hearing numbers that are really high on the RV – it will be over $4.40 and is pegged to the GBP so multiply that – so if our numbers come out $7+ you know it was set to the GBP.

TONY.. STATES -  depends on where the rate comes out if it goes up or down – really low it will go up but if it comes out ridiculously high it surely will go down....

TONY. STATES – we are on an hourly watch – no bad news – all the banks are still excited and the GOV people are and bunch shook their head as to why this did not go down Sunday – 

TONY. STATES - the speech was to take place and the president never came out.  WE ARE JUST THAT CLOSE and again there is nothing negative – there are no delays and it’s a timing issue – so we will see this...

TONY. STATES -  no meetings went bad in Iraq – there are some meetings tomorrow which is our day- so some were MOVED but nothing bad - whatever is going on in Iraq will NOT effect the RV its been through the 5 stages – ALL IS DONE complete = they will have government issues and things everyday for years to come before they become a complete democracy and adjust to it...

TONY. STATES - If we waiting for a perfect day in Iraq for the RV to take place then it never will as we have been at it for over 200 years and we are not perfect here in the USA.

TONY. STATES – the RV was to be here Sunday and when they decide to lower the dollar which if its before the RV the rate will be worth more... not sure when they are going to do this – hope for the dollar to go down before the RV – it has to go down....and we hear its going down now not 2-3 months out – we heard this months ago.... it was always expected to go down in the spring –its almost here now....

TONY. STATES – one thing I could not say before I will say now – be smart enough to be involved to take care of the money – LOOK For the IMF SPEECH and listen to it to know what to do from there- it will effect you so LISTEN to the speech when she comes out with it this week... watch for it so  you can KNOW what to do

TONY. STATES – LOOK for Pre-IPO’s and IPO’s and that’s a great way to increase your money....

TONY. STATES  - THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN and WITH A BIG NUMBER  and definitely enjoy and be prepared and have your plan this is going to happen...HOPE this happens before the speeches are made tomorrow – tomorrow still be the greatest day in our lives!!!

NOTE FROM PTR - Be careful of the website  IQD Team.com– these members were asking for folks to give SS#’s and to transfer your funds to them – DO NOT LET ANYONE SCAM YOU and take your money ONLINE from other countries...

OKIE & BULLDOG POST, 23 JAN

OKIE & BULLDOG75 POST: 6.25PM CST: : OKIE IS IN THE OILPATCH AND WE ARE POSTING AN UPDATE. DUE TO INFO JUST RECEIVED ; THE SECOND RAT THAT GETS THE CHEESE SCENARIO, MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE AT THIS TIME. IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS A POSIBILITY THAT THE FORTHCOMING RATE WILL BE HIGH ENOUGH AND EQUITABLE ENOUGH, THAT WE SHOULD NOT TAKE THE CHANCE ON WAITING. IT MAY BE AN ASTUTE MOVE ON EVERYONE'S PART, TO CONSIDER CASHING IN ASAP. IT IS GOING TO BE UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL WHAT ONE WOULD BE SATISFIED WITH REGARDING THE INITIAL RATE. A GOOD RULE OF THUMB IS, ONE WILL NEVER GO BROKE MAKING A PROFIT. WE NEED TO EACH SEPARTATE, NEED FROM GREED. OKIE'S BEST WISHES AND LOVE TO EVERYONE THAT GOD WILL SPEED THE RV TO US.

BLUEDOG POST, 23 JAN


[bluedog] Hi
[bluedog] just popped in for a short bit I have to things to post

[bluedog] UN envoy: the remaining compensation to Kuwait might invest in Iraq ............
 Mon, 23/01/2012 1:28 ........... UN envoy to Iraq, told AFP that Iraq and Kuwait, thinking to re-invest the remaining war reparations on Baghdad for the benefit of its southern neighbor, the Fund invests in Iraq. Iraq continues to pay five per cent of its oil revenues to meet the $ 18 billion dollars in compensation by the residual of Kuwait.....

For the benefit of the people of Iraq ......................... Said Martin Koppel Special Representative of the Secretary-General that «there is a proposal on the table provides the remaining funds to invest in Iraq».
He added that «the kind of confidence, and the United Nations fulfilled its obligation, however, the money re-invested in Iraq for the benefit of the people of Iraq». He said «I think that this is a good proposal and the two parties to hold their negotiations about it». 

Iraq has to pay about $ 34.3 billion dollars in compensation after the regime of Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait, of which about $ 25 billion went to Kuwait.

[bluedog] Greece debt crisis.......................... christine lagarde who heads the imf said, look, when we put together this idea back in october, there were a lot of constructs we had in place. a lot of assumptions we had about where Greece’s economy would be by now. 

that is no longer the case. increasingly looks likely that in the future Greece might probably will need more money. and we all have to ask ourselves where is that money going to come from? 

that's what's being said behind closed doors. the imf would like a lower interest rate for Greece to make their repayment down in the future. here's what christine lagarde said in public when she spoke first to cnbc this morning. 

what it will take from the private sector, what it will take from the euro partners, what it will take from the ecb is a mixture. it's a mosaic if you will, where everyone is going to contribute. the first to contribute actually will have to be Greece. in terms of implementing the program, in terms of satisfying the conditions. and that's what's really matters to the imf. 

so the private sector on the other side of the table read that charles dallara of the iff, institute of international finance, he's representing a lot of banks in the discussion has generally said and i'm paraphrasing, why do you keep moving the goal post? 

you've done this twice now. we keep coming up with a set of constructs for a deal, and then you ask us to take more. is that necessarily right? 

so both sides of the table have a legitimate point of view. what we are waiting to find out is what will the euro group decide in terms of the interest rate. is it going to be lower like the imf wants? or is it going to be higher like the banks want? there's optimism that indeed we will hear within the next 24 hours something.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000068875
[bluedog] glryan10 hope it is a solution

[bluedog] that will take you also to the video you all may have seen this CNBC