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Wednesday, January 18, 2012

DINAR GURUS, 18 JAN


1-18-2012 Newshound Guru Robusto Here’s something REALThe HCL committee has agreed to the final version of the Hydro Carbon Law…it goes to committee next week and could easily be passed by parliament…the Kurds are happy, everyone is happy. We can see the HCL passed next week!This comes from Reuters not some intel guru.
1-18-2012 Guru Jonnywg IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IN A MEETING INCLUDING SEVERAL RV SOURCES THAT FREEWAY BILL, BELLA GRITS AND jonnywg ARE POSTING INFORMATION THAT IS EXTREMLY CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL…IN THE INTERESTS OF NATIONAL SECURITY…WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO CEASE AND DESIST POSTING ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION…AS A CANADIAN I RESPECT YOUR LAWS AND WILL STOP IMMEDIATELY BELLA AND BILL AS USA CITIZENS HAVE AGREED TO DO THE SAME…THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE MUST BE EXTREMELY CLOSE FOR SUCH A REQUEST…WE THINK THIS IS THE END
1-18-2012 Guru Poppy3 INFORMATION TODAY COMING IN IS CONTRARY TO SOME OF LAST NIGHTS NEWS AND I am being told that the imf has not at this time released to the ust or fed any rate on the dinar but a release is expected at anytime and should happen within 48 hours. It is all just a timing issue and is still being discussed . IT sure apeers this could be completed before the week is out.
1-18-2012 Guru TonyTNT Last night all banks were put on alert. This is about to happen. Banks are on high alert and they are watching the bank screens. Its here!! Process: Its either the WB to the BIS to CBI to IMF or the BIS to the WB to the CBI to the IMF. When the WB gets it they have 10 days and then sent it to the next level. they don’t have to take 10 days. Could be 10 minutes…if they make any changes they have to send it back and start again. The IMF got is Thursday and released it last night to the system. They did not change anything. Now the banks have it…Everything that we are hearing is it could be here today or by Friday.
 1-18-2012 Guru GaryWe did hear from Dr. Todd today…with his contacts-They are all seeing it clear. We are right on top of it. Two words. Imminent and RIGHT HERE!!
1-18-2012 Guru Checkmate Everything is positive. It could be today. Its very possible. we are on an hour by hour watch…we are all on the same page finally. We are still on a rollar caster. This is the last minutes.
1-18-12 Guru TerryK on phone with source…his ust gal says we are on track… everything is done…ust is out of lockdown…we should see a change tonight…he is all excited. just came out of meeting with bank…the bank has info already.
1-18-2012 Guru Footforward I AM STILL LOOKING FOR THIS ANY MOMENT NOW!!! PLEASE READ THIS CLOSELY! I AM STILL LOOKING FOR THIS TO SHOW UP ANY TIME NOW!!! PLEASE BE AWARE SOMEONE IS TRYING TO DESTROY MY REPUTATION…discredit me. SO ANYTHING NEGITIVE YOU SEE PLEASE JUST IGNORE IT!
1-18-2012 Guru BWM [ I'd ] rather not get into times because of the periods they have to work within…but I think that we would not see it before the bank update this afternoon, between 2 and 4 central…how’s that…it’s not gonna happen “on the hour” type of thing anyway. I have theories as most do…we believe that Shabs had stated he wanted a managed float but then he didn’t plan on waiting this long either I don’t believe…a managed float can only fluctuate 2% every 90 days up or down…a free float is market driven and can/will change daily based on the demand (just like a stock).
1-18-2012 Guru Bluwolf Listen up we are in the vergé of a life changing event never seen in the history of man. Everything is set for it to go down this evening.
1-18-2012 Guru BWM I need to address all the hoopla…surrounding not seeing a rate change YET…first, as I tried to explain last evening the RV is an EVENT…the information that has been shared are PROCESSES leading to an EVENT… there are timing allowances within the PROCESSES that affect the EVENT…the EVENT is coming but understand that because one PROCESS completes there is still time allowed to trigger the EVENT.
1-18-2012 Guru Poppy3 my people told me today it can show at anytime but they don’t expect things to be released till this weekend. They should know with their positions within our gov. and they will call me within min if the rv is released. THEY ARE SAYING LARGE RATE.
1-18-2012 Guru Freeway Bill WE FIND OURSELVES IN A VERY GOOD POSITION…WE KNOW OUR BLESSING IS COMING AND NOW WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT…LIKE WE DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
1-18-2012 Guru Jonnywg GOOD MORNING AMERICA…HOPE Y’ALL ARE READY…IMF HAVE RELEASED…THE RELEASE IS PROCESSING…WE ARE PAST THE FINISH LINE AND AWAITING THE RESULTS…WE ARE WAITING FOR BANK SCREEN REPORT…RATES ARE ALL OVER THE MAP…FROM $4.75 TO $12.63, I THINK IT WILL BE LOW AS IT IS RESPONSIBLE…COUNT ON A LOW RATE THEN BE SURPRISED.
1-18-2012 Guru Kaperoni The World Bank is staying on top of the plan…IMO they are trying to rein them in. Get them back on track. For weeks now we have heard conflicting reasons for the large currency auctions and subsequent dollars being pumped into the market…it does not matter what the reason is, just that it is happening…these recent auctions, and the dollarization going on is going to effect the CBI’s reserves. So then the question is..How long will Shabibi tolerate this? Would he be willing to lose his reserves over this? Or would he just RV, and reverse this activity? The Iraqis must know something is coming…encouraged them to embrace the dollar. Shabibi has had success preparing for the RV. But…they need the “laws” in place. IMO, it appears that Shabibi is very close to RV’ng the currency…But at the same time…at least 1 law must be passed prior to the RV.
1-18-2012 Guru Bulldog75 THIS APPEARS “ALMOST HERE AND DONE”…WE ARE CONSERVATIVELY VIEWING FACTS AND TRUTHS…WE ARE SO VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE HERE…TRAIN IS PULLING INTO STATION.
1-18-012 Guru Poppy3 the rv can happen at anytime from today forward. Hcl, erbil,ministers etc all you have ever heard that needed to be in place has been placed in position . The only thing they all need is announced. The peeps i talked with said they expect all including the rv will now come together at the same time they said they had zero idea of the timing at this time and the timing is the critical and totally up to them to activate

BONDLADY CHAT, 18 JAN

[BondLady] lets focus on the good things here
[BondLady] when i showed yall the art the other day
[BondLady] where it said erbril was done all but the security minister
[BondLady] might as well br aan howdy do

[BondLady] see this is the gig
[BondLady] half of the things maliki said ok to in the erbril agreements
[BondLady] that made him pm
[BondLady] the majority of those things
[BondLady] was unconstitional

[BondLady] so as weve all seen maliki, barzani an even allawi say
[BondLady] yes we need to go by the constition
[BondLady] an maliki helped write it
[BondLady] he knows whats in it
[BondLady] the others should have read it to
BondLady] most of allawis demands was unconstitional
[BondLady] he did have some points tho that were right
[BondLady] like the security minister
[BondLady] it should go to the iraqya bloc
[BondLady] it was agrreed upon

[BondLady] now barzanis stuff the majority of thats a go
[BondLady] barzani is 10 times the man an 10 times smarter than allawi
[BondLady] he will get most of his points

[BondLady] the biggies being hcl art 140 and havein more power over there money an contracts
[BondLady] thats really the main things right now barzani wants
[BondLady] huge things as well

[BondLady] so the art i posted today
[BondLady] where allawi says
[BondLady] we will come bk to parl if mlaiki will set the sec ministers
[BondLady] he will
[BondLady] im almost positive of it

[BondLady] but we need to be patient an let this play out
[BondLady] and if not it will go majority gov malikis favor

[BondLady] give it a week see what happens
[BondLady] let parl come bk an pass these laws
[BondLady] im done
[BondLady] drops the mic in dogs nova lap an walks off affraid

JONNY POST : " IN THE INTERES OF NATIONAL SECURITY WE CANNOT POST", 18 JAN

[jonnywG] GOOD EVENING MY FRIENDS.........IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IN A MEETING INCLUDING SEVERAL RV SOURCES THAT FREEWAY BILL, BELLA GRITS AND jonnywg ARE POSTING INFORMATION THAT IS EXTREMLY CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL...............

IN THE INTERESTS OF NATIONAL SECURITY ...................... WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO CEASE AND DESIST POSTING ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION............... 


AS A CANADIAN I RESPECT YOUR LAWS AND WILL STOP IMMEDIATELY BELLA AND BILL AS USA CITIZENS HAVE AGREED TO DO THE SAME........................

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE MUST BE EXTREMELY CLOSE FOR SUCH A REQUEST


[jonnywG] I WISH TO STATE THAT I WILL BE AROUND UNTIL THE END.............. I WILL BE HERE FOR YOU............... AND WE THINK THIS IS THE END 

ARIZONAHEAT POST, 18 JAN

7:18 PM CST [ArizonaHeat] Ok 3S room. Before things get out of hand I have some things to say……. 

[ArizonaHeat] - 1) Jonny, Bella nor anyone else is under a gag order; 


2) Jonny nor anyone else was contacted directly by any agency to stop posting
It was relayed to him on a conference call I was on. He was very nice about it and agreed to cool it on the Intel he provides to a public forum; 

3) None of the intel providers are being investigated by the NSA, CIA, UST, FBI or any other acronym you may come up with :::::

[ArizonaHeat] - Jonny, Bella and FreewayBill along with a number of other intel providers all need to understand that bringing you the best info they can, and it is now apparent, can do more harm than good. They work very hard, endless hours and lots of phone time just to make you happy. :::::

[ArizonaHeat] - Realize this needs to stop now and let this situation run its course. We as intel providers will keep you informed the best we can. DON’T push, don’t go crazy because at 9:01 am EST you haven’t received an update. Let it come to you and KNOW you will know about a live rate as soon as we do. 

[ArizonaHeat] look, i dont post a fraction of what i get for this very reason, its not worth the problems it brings. The thing is , I do know whats going on, i do know where we are and i do know this will all be over very soon. just keep the faith and relax. the minute im told its going live, i will post it 

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BEAR POST: " IT APPEARS WE WILL NOW HAVE AN RV", 18 JAN

BEAR5642: 
WELL A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION COMING OUT AND NOW THAT THE CBI IS ACTUALLY SHOWING LIVE INFORMATION IT'S EVEN MORE PROMISING



BEAR5642
I’M ON MY IPAD SO I CANNOT CHANGE COLOR



BEAR5642

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE SHOULD SEE AN RV AT ANY TIME NOW! IM VERY EXCITED WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE IT'S HEADED



BEAR5642
I HAVE PRAYER AND WORSHIP THIS EVENING AT OUR CHURCH SO I CAME IN EARLY AS I PROMISED



chuck7479
BEAR, Poppy posted that the info on the IMF releasing to the UST was incorrect, any thoughts to his statement?



BEAR5642

I DON'T SAY THINGS CONTRADICTORY TO ANYONE ELSE. ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT CAN HAPPEN STILL TODAY OR TOMORROW



BEAR5642

I HAVE MADE CALLS TO MY GROUP AND TOLD THEM TO BE PREPARED TO LEAVE FOR CASH OUT AT ANY TIME NOW



BEAR5642

RCSUGAR IM EXCITED AND REALLY HAVE EXPECTATION IN MY HEART



BEAR5642

SO WHAT WAS THIS 1 pm MEETING ALL ABOUT TODAY ON THE NEWS



BEAR5642

I WILL. OK I HAVE TO GO GET READY FOR SERVICE THIS EVENING AND EVERYONE PLEASE DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED. OUR GOD SHALL SUPPLY OUR
HARVEST



BEAR5642

GOD BLESS YOU ALL I WILL COME BACK IN TOMORROW UNLESS IT RV LOL AND THEN I WILL BE IN ROUTE TO CASH IN

BEAR5642

MAN I MISS MY FAMILY HERE AT OOM YOU ALL ARE SOOOOOOO AWESOME 

PTR CALL: " THE TIME IS VERY CLOSE", 18 JAN

Lots of intel out there that are confirming some things. a couple things are not totally verified.


Gary: We did hear from Dr. Todd today. with his contacts-They are all seeing it clear. We are right on top of it. Two words. Imminent and RIGHT HERE!! 


Tony: the Negative part. He is reading something: some Stuff doesn't even make sense. 
this is what I do know. there is to much information put on the boards. You are on a rollorcaster that you shouldn't be on. thats what we go through every day. We heard that Dan, I and Jonny W were on a plane to cash out. We know that didn't happen. 


Dan: How did I get stuck on a plane with you or Jonny?


Tony: second call said the RV wasnt happening till June. We know thats wrong. I heard it wasn't happening till sunday. None of this is true.


There were good things too!
High level banking intel post on our forum (Richlady). And a post sayinghis banking meeting said they would not cash in dinar and
its a lop basically. Well Im here to tell you to pay attention to the first one. Last night all banks were put on alert. This is about to happen. Banks are on high alert and they are watching the bank screens . Its here!!
How do we know its here?
Process: Its either the WB to the BIS to CBI to IMF or the BIS to the WB to the CBI to the IMF. When the WB gets it they have 10 days and then sent it to the next level. they don't have to take 10 days. Could be 10 minutes. if they make any changes they have to send it back and start again. The IMF got is Thursday and released it last night to the system. They did not change anything. Now the banks have it. Todays memo was different at the banks. The banks got proceedures TODAY:
What to take in, and what to pay out. They were warned about counterfeit dinar. Having security in place. Ect...


Everything that we are hearing is it could be here today or by Friday. This is a good day. Now you know why agencies kept saying it was done-and they were. 


Dan: we have to beleive what we are hearing or we wouldnt repeat it. As tony went through the list i still think its someones opinion but it could be true. We have heard so many different scenarios and they have been wrong in the past. But anything is possible. Everything is positive. We are seeing things on TV, weve seen articles, we are now seeing bankers preparing for somethig and are worried about something. Worried about herds of people coming in saying "pay me now" It could be today. Its very possible. we are on an hour by hour watch. But, there may be a wait because the banks are in a horrible position globally. so, be warned-that we all cant cash in the first day and there may be a wait. 


Dan: We need patience or a understanding attitude at cash in. Its going to happen. and Tonys intel is coming from good sources. Jonnys intel as well. we are all on the same page finally. We are still on a rollar caster. Yhis is the last minutes. 


Tony: Lots of crazy stuff out there-Some I don't beleive. If its gone through all these agencies and loaded through the systems-then any meetings in Iraq do not matter. For once every single banks-even the little banks are saying its done. 99% of us are not wrong. 


there is something else I am getting to get back. It could be between now or Friday or it could be Friday. I don't know. Don't go to the banks-they are tired of that.


We are not far all. IMF just put on the news that they are raising 5 hundred Billion dollars to bail out the world. Where did they find it????


Dan: I do not beleive its in Iraqs hands. I beleive its in the US/Worlds hands right now. I do not beleive we are waitin on a meeting in Iraq;


Gary: We have so much info directed at us. We were warned about misinformation as well. I have heard from sources that it is postponed for 6 months to 12 months so we evaluate against what we know as fact and determine what is misinformation. I heard people were cashing out at the BIs and we know that untrue. Its not a bank. A lot of news out there to throw us off and make us think its not a real opprtunity. We have to be careful and decide what smoke or not. Banks are just as frustrated as we are. they can't do anything until the hold is taking off of it.


We have tobe ready and have our plans in place


Tony" you know more then the bankers and tellers do. some of the bankers listen to our calls because their bosses won't tell them whats going on. 


Tony: Something BIG is happening before Friday and if we see it-You will never have to wonder about this ever again. ITS BIG!!!
We are in the window when Kuwait rvd years ago right now. maybe they will do what they did with kuwait.
Who knows.


Q&A starting:


Simon: member had info from a bank manager today: member Yourblessed is on the phone: 


Yourblessed: directly from the bank this morning: i have a great relationship with a bank, and a wealth manager in a large California city. I called him every couple weeks to say "hello" He always called me back the same day and he knows I have dinar.


He gave me his cell phone number. I would call him on a sat or sun and ask him if he heard anything and he would always call me back. I had a feeling he knew more about the IQD . I also have a relationship with a bank manager. I would talk to him about the dinar and he always looked up rates for me. He would offer info and check the bank screens for me. well this morning I went to the bank and went into teller line. the manager saw me and came up while I was making a DB purchase. The manager came up and we talked. i said i feel confident that something is happening and Im excited. 


So he said -lets look at the rates. They pulled up the rates and he looked at me and said"this is odd' He let me look at the screen. Almost everything on the screen said "call for rates" Even the GBP almost every currency said this. they were confused.
I called him back to ask about the dinar. He said we don't show anything today and 3 days ago there was a rate. 
He said this was an anomoly and hes never seen this before.


Q; do yo think the rate will come out high or come out low. what are your ideas about that


Tony: If it comes out any where near $12 then I am all in. Im not waiting for anybody. If it comes out at a mid level-then I havve a stradegy even though you cant double dip-i can double dip. A guy called me this mornign and said the rate is between $4.35 to $12.38. 
what Ive heard the most is the $7 dollar range and I think there will be some movement after it hits the market. Either up or down and its manipulated for people in the market to make money if its up or down. so watch out for movement. 


Q: From Arizona. If you cash in a small amount and hold the rest of it to get a trust -its to late. 


Tony: When you start cashin out millions-your name is on a list. im excited to tell you this. Everybody thats worried about the 24 hours to cash in-its 8 hours a day so we would have 3 -8 hour days-not just 24 hours. so don't be scared about cashing out in 24 hours. You will have time to go to the bank and lock in at DB. so you will really have 72 hours. 


Tony: A good retirement plan is to have 10 properties and a yearly cash flow. Any real estate I would buy is cash though.
Lots of people in real estate follow this plan. 


i would not keep mortgages-but use cash. the world bank issued a warning today that a GLOBAL RECESSION is about to occur!! so pay attention. 


Tony is talking about whats in the bank packages, life coach, insurance, black cards,tons of free services. free concierge service, free-lots of stuff. Things you should ask for. when you have this kind of money-they will be beating down your door to talk to you. 


Daughter came home and I missed several questions:


someone will be bringing the MP3 link and playback number over ASAP so you can all lissten. 


There is one more question: 


Tony: i've been told Best times for the Rv are 1-3 Am and 3-5 Pm and when most RVs have taken place but this can happen any moment or anytime. It could be happening as we speak. i've been told its in the system and where it is in the system -so anytime


Puzzle peices to put together. 


Where does it go after the IMF?
Tony:It goes to the forex. They loaded it 2 days agao,(shouldn't have said that) and then to the banking system and then to you and me. 


Gary: the treasury and different agencies have to be in agreement and they have told me they have signed off and done and were confused at the delay. so with Tonys info and the IMF signing off on it-it looks like they are all done.


Call is ending:


Tony: Don't rush to the bank
All the mods are very excited that the time is very close!!!!! 

BULLDOG POST UPDATE, 18 JAN

BULLDOG75: WED: 3:33PM CST: THIS TRAIN SHOULD BE PULLIN' INTO THE STATION SOMETIMES TONIGHT WITH ENGINE-ENGINE #9, COMIN DOWN THE RAILROAD LINE, # 4-12. THANK YOU ROGER MILLER.  RATES LOADED. TARGETS IN SIGHT.  WE ARE READY.

TERRYK CHAT, 18 JAN

mjwagg] peterq2 hey I'M all exccited .... it looks very very very gooooooooooooood 
[nano36] mjwagg yes this has been an exciting day, must treat as rumor tho


[mjwagg] nano36 oh I am .... just keeping a very close eye on things

[terryk] WELL IT'S NOT A RUMOR, WHERE THE DINAR HAS MOVED OFF OF 1170
[terryk] THAT'S FOR SURE


[Agent 007] yes any movement is something interesting 
[goodgrins] how do you know tk


[terryk] IT'S ON THE CBI SITE
[terryk] GO LOOK


[goodgrins] k ty
[terryk] FOR YOURSELF
[mjwagg] terryk thanks 


(CBI's website is www.cbi.iq )

POPPY POST, 18 JAN

 POPPY3: TO MY RICH FRIENDS INFORMATION TODAY COMING IN IS CONTRARY TO SOME OF LAST NIGHTS NEWS AND I am being told that the imf has not at this time released to the ust or fed any rate on the dinar but a release is expected at anytime and should happen within48 hours . It is all just a timing issue and is still being discussed . Be thankful you are here and invested -- IT sure apeers this could be completed before the week is out. poppy3 

BLUWOLF CHAT, 18 JAN

[bluwolf] Listen up we are in the vergé of a life changing event never seen in the history of man
[bluwolf] Everything is set for it to go down this evening

BWM] ram1 rather not get into times because of the periods they have to work within... but I think that we would not see it before the bank update this afternoon.. again getting back to the window theory of afternoon updates, evening prayers and cbi update

[MRP] BWM Do you think PTR might be right that the banks are stressing out about our patience levels and how we might have to wait for awhile to see the completion of our financial plans?
AmandaPanda] BWM What time does the bank update in the afternoon?

[BWM] drizz around 
2pm... and I THINK that's eastern BUT that could be central... let's just go with between 2 and 4 central... how's that.. it's not gonna happen "on the hour" type of thing anyway

[bluwolf] Just remember ti lockin your rates immediately within the first 24
[bluwolf] Look fine a simply just lockin the rates thats all secure the highest rate

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starfish] foxylady56 We can't do a thing until the IQD becomes an internationally recognized currency.
[sunshine] from the GET room...NOW [bluwolf] Eta after sunset today EST [bluwolf] Are we clear folks

[BWM] MRP banks are not happy... and I do believe will suffer some employment issues once completed 

[BWM] [GlfShopTom] As time permits, pls explain briefly diff between float & managed float. Thanks OK to clarify... a managed float can only fluctuate 2% every 90 days up or down... a free float is market driven and can/will change daily based on the demand (just like a stock) 

[BWM] misskitty I have theories as most do... but we won't know for certain until it's released.. we believe that Shabs had stated he wanted a managed float but then he didn't plan on waiting this long either I don't believe

BWM] MRP ever heard the term "RUN ON THE BANK"... it's not pretty and ppl get injured or worse when mob activities get started.. consider this, you're at the bank standing in line thinking the 24 hours ends in 10 minutes, you're 5 ppl back in line and they say "sorry, that's all today folks" which BUBBA is gonna get upset cuz he ain't gonna be able to afford his new double wide pull behind RV trailer and start pitching a fit cuz the rate is going down... now you know why demolition derbies are popular in the south.

jonnywG] just talking to Tony at PTR and he is very positive..................... his sources also agree that the imf is releasing to the CENTRAL BANKING SYSTEMS WORLDWIDE
as released? 


[jonnywG] AmandaPanda IT IS DOWNLOADING.............NOW IT IS 195 COUNTRIES

[chillimac] jonnywG cnbc was talking this am about 180 countries up grading there currancy , but very breifly
broncofan] jonnywG so is that basically an adjustment to almost all currencies of the world? [jonnywG] broncofan YES 

[jonnywG] please be advised that the alleged phone call with 
montana and grits was supposed to be a joke comment................. the response is not fair to bella grits who is an outstanding person, has legitimate inte, hundreds of associates............ again this was supposed to be a joke but got carried away because no one could believe it