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Sunday, January 8, 2012

JIMBO Q & A, ( 2 PART ) , 8 JAN

JAN.8,2012 CST.

Bulldog75: JUST ON THE PHONE WITH OKIE. ALL IS WELL. HE AND I ARE GOOD TO GO WITH THIS RV.

JIM JENKINS Q & A 

EE2011: JIm... I have purchased a trust from u. Would u transfer a set amount of money from the trust into an account that u would use for daily transactions leaving the balance in the
BTrust?. Or set up an LLC account an transfer all money from BTrust into LLC bank account. Thx Jim

Jimbo to EE2011: TO BE FAIR W/ OTHERS NOT YET WHERE U R, WHY NOT CALL ME TOMORROW & DISCUSS THEN, ok?

lonellc to Jimbo: I purchased IQD with my IRA is there a way to place my IRA in a Business Trust ?

Jimbo to lonellc: MY SUGG IS TO LEAVE U'R IRA ALONE TO AVOID TRIGGERING UNNECESSARY TAXATION

Jimbo to lonellc: GOOD Q. WE R STILL ABLE TO OFFER 24-48 HR. TURN AROUND & SEND OUT U'R BUS. TRUST FED EX FOR NEXT DAY DEL. ANOTHER 2-3 DAYS TO SIGN & NOTARIZE & GET BANK ACC'T OPENED IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED.


MiddleClassMaiden: Could you give us the TOP 5 MOST IMPORTANT THINGS to REMEMBER / PREPARE FOR as we move ahead with this historic, life-changing event? THANKS so much!

Bulldog75: MIDDLE CLASS ; I WILL ADDRESS THAT AT 11PM CST FOR CASH IN.

dev: my question is: my applicaiton is in to purchase a complex, non-grantor, irrevocable, discretionay spendthrift trust. do i need an LLC from Nevada or can I dissolve that - have not used yet?

Jimbo to dev: RATHER COMPLICATED Q. TO BE FAIR W/ OTHERS, PROB. BEST IF WE TALKED IN PERSON. EMAIL ME FOR MY #

Bulldog75: OOM MEMBERS; JIM WILL ADDRESS ONLY "BUSINESS TRUST" QUESTIONS FROM 10-11PM CST TONITE. I WILL HANDLE THE CASH IN / PREPARATION QUESTIONS. TYVM.

tallmanlawt to popatopcowgirl: If we cash in the dinar in our personal account paid taxes and set up a LLC would we have to pay taxes a second time?

Jimbo to tallmanlawt: AGAIN, RATHER COMPLICATED Q. IMO, AN LLC DOES NOT PROTECT U AT ALL FOR THAT KILLER 2ND TAX, THE FED. ESTATE TAX, WHICH JUMPS TO 55% NEXT YR. REMEMBER, I AM NOT A CPA OR ATTY. MANY OF THESE KIND OF Q'S BE BEST ADDRESS BY A CPA.

mark64 to Bulldog75: DOES what you are discussing apply to Canadians as well

Jimbo to mark64: PERHAPS, BUT I PREFER TO WORK W/ ONLY US CITIZENS ONLY

rvnow1: Please tell us the advantages of doing your kind of trust, ok?

Jimbo to rvnow1: NOW WE'RE GETTING TO THE HEART OF THINGS. IF U HAVEN'T YET READ MY FREE MATERIAL OR LISTENED TO A PRIOR CONF. CALL, SEND U'R EMAIL TO ME: JIM@JIMJENKINSMUSIC.COM. THEN LET'S TALK.

Bulldog75: DISCLAIMER: PARTICIPATION TONIGHT IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT CONSTRUED TO MEAN INVESTMENT OR LEGAL ADVICE. NEITHER JIM JENKINS OR BULLDOG75 ARE BEING PAID OR REIMBURSED FOR A TIME RENDERED. ALL OPINIONS ARE IN "IMHO"/IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. THANKS.

Jimbo to rvnow1: TOO MANY TO LIST HERE

greenfrogtrike to Jimbo: In last night's Q&A you mentioned that a BT Trustee had other options besides paying themselves a salary as such. Can you elaborate a little on what you meant?

Jimbo to greenfrogtrike: ANY TIME A SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITY IS CREATED, WHETHER A CORP., LLC, BUS. TRUST, ETC., THERE ARE AMPLE OPPS TO LEGALLY CREATE WRITE OFFS IN THE ORDINARY COURSE OF BUS. ANY BUS. PERSON SHOULD KNOW WHAT MANY OF THESE ARE.

Jimbo to Tigerlily: OF ALL THE WORRIES, PROBATE IS NOW NO LONGER A BIG WORRY OR CONCERN. FED. ESTATE TAXES, HOWEVER, ARE. THEY CAN EAT UP ANOTHER 55% OF YOUR NEW FOUND POST RV WEALTH B 4 U'R FAMILY OR HEIRS REC. WHAT U'VE INTENDED. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ADVANTAGES OF A BUS. TRUST. YET U CAN RETAIN CONTROL OF THESE ASSETS WHILE U R ALIVE

stockprofessor: If you transfer RV funds to a personal bank account and then transfer to Business Trust, are you subject to being taxed twice?

Jimbo to stockprofessor: NO, BUT IMO, CREAT THE BUS. TRUST FIRST. THEN CASH IN W/ IT RATHER THAN IN YOUR OWN NAME, EVEN THO' THE CAP. GAINS TAX IS THE SAME

Bulldog75: IF ONE HAS NO DIRECT QUESTIONS TO JIM JENKINS CONCERNING "BUSINESS TRUSTS" PLEASE, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING LINK, WHICH IS FROM YESTERDAY'S SEMINAR. THERE ARE 25 Q & As from yesterday A HERE IS THE FABULOUS SUMMARY THAT LEXIE POSTED WORD FOR WORD WITH MANY, MANY ANSWERS: http://www.okieoilman.net/t15732-bulldog75-post-rv-trust-q-a-1-07-12-133pm-cst

Diamondsr4ever: Thanks for your professional help Jimbo. If I want to purchase RE, set up trust accounts for the children and grands, have a foundation to donate funds to the help the needy, among other things, do you recommend I setup a BT first to be the holding entity or holding company per se?

Jimbo to Diamondsr4ever: IN SHORT, BY ALL MEANS, DO A BUS. TRUST. THEN U CAN STRUCTURE YOUR PLAN THEREAFTER AS U SEE BEST. THERE'S NO ONE BETWEEN U & U'R MONEY

kisbah1: What is the min. amount of dinar to enter into a BT and are there on going costs?

Bulldog75: THIS IS WHAT I WILL COVER TONITE FROM 11PM-11:59PM CST CONCERNING CASH IN. HERE ARE MANY OF YOUR ANSWERS ALREADY.http://www.okieoilman.net/t15732-bulldog75-post-rv-trust-q-a-1-07-12-133pm-cst

Jimbo to kisbah1: MY RECOMMENDATION IS, WELL OVER 1 MIL. IQD. OTHERWISE, SAVE U'R MONEY FOR BILLS, SPENDING ETC., OR EVEN PURCH. MORE DINAR

Jimbo to kisbah1: DEPENDS UPON THE AMOUNT OF THE GIFT. FOR SURE, IF U PLAN ON GIVING DINAR, DO IT BEFORE THE RV.

Jimbo to kisbah1: THE BUS. TRUST CAN FUNCTION LEGALLY W/ EITHER ONE OR SEVERAL TRUSTEES. AND AFTER U PASS AWAY, THE BUS TRUST DOESN'T DIE, DOES IT? THE SUCCESSOR TRUSTEES U'VE APPOINTED CONTINUE ONWARD, COMPLETELY AVOIDING FED. ESTATE TAXES

Bulldog75: FOLKS, THIS IS SOME OF THE MOST VALUABLE QUESTIONS ONE WILL EVER SEE AND REALIZE CONCERNING YOUR ESTATE, HEIRS, ASSETS. I HAVE ALREADY CONSUMATED/DONE MY "BUSINESS TRUST" THRU JIM JENKINS. THANKS.

Bulldog75: FOLKS; THERE IS NO NEED TO FEEL ANYTHING BUT COMFORTABLE HERE CONCERNING THIS "BUSINESS TRUSTS". AT TIMES WE ARE STUDENTS, AND AT TIMES WE ARE TEACHERS. THIS IS MORE VALUABLE THAN ONE CAN IMAGINE. WE WILL BE PROTECTED FOR OUR LIFE AND ESTATE. TYVM.

Domino1: Hi Jim, I am the trustee of an Expressed Trust and I would like to know what the difference or advantage of a Bus Trust over an Expressed Trust?

Jimbo to Domino1: W/OUT SEEING THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF U'R EXPRESSED TRUST, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY. I ONLY KNOW THE BUS. TRUST AND WHY IT WORKS SO WELL.

duo: if we are giving $/dinar to an elderly parent, can we set up trusts for them as long as they do the final signatures, notarizations, etc...

Bulldog75: DUO ANSWER: (JIM: I CAUGHT THIS ONE WE MISSED: TY): ANSWER: YES!

texasroadrunner: I was told by a friend that his attorney told him that if he did a trust in which he was the exectutor of the trust, the IRS would not consider it to be a valid trust. Can you speak to that issue? Thanks.

Jimbo to texasroadrunner: KINDA' SOUNDS LIKE 2ND HAND INFO. EVEN ATTY'S SAY THINGS THAT CAN & OFTEN R MISUNDERSTOOD. AND FOR THAT MATTER, EVEN THE IRS ISSUES PUBLICATIONS FROM TIME TO TIME AS TO WHAT THEY CLAIM IS OR IS NOT VALID. WE ALL HAVE TO DO OUR OWN RESEARCH & LEARN WHAT WORKS AND WHY. DON'T TAKE MY MERE WORDS EITHER. I'M NOT AN ATTY NOR A CPA. BUT EVERY BUS. TRUST I SEND OUT HAS OVER 160 PAGES OF LEGAL BACKUP TO SUPPORT THE LEGALITY OF THE BUS. TRUSTS I DO.

robert4260: I have heard of the Fed challanging bus trusts. What should be our concerns with this if any?

Bulldog75: NOTE: EVERYONE; FOR SPECIFIC LEGAL QUESTIONS (AND ONLY IF U DO NOT HIRE AN ATTORNEY) GOOGLE 'PRE PAID LEGAL". FOR $50 PER MONTH ONE HAS UNLIMITED LEGAL ADVICE AND FREE REVIEW OF DOCUMENTS. THIS HAS TO BE PURCHASED THRU A 'LICENSED AGENT ' IN YOU HOME STATE. GOOGLE: "PRE PAID LEGAL".

Hecht: If you had a LLC with 3 partners lets say 40% 40% and 20% the 40% holders transfered 30% of each of their shares to make the 40% share at estate time only 10% each then the 30% share would go to 80% and the 40% share holders would only hold the 10% each, is there a time frame before transfer required to stary within estate rules?

Jimbo to Hecht: I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT WE'RE A BIT OFF THE TOPIC. I DON'T PROFESS TO BE AN LLC EXPERT, THO THERE COULD EASILY BE A TIME LATER ON WHERE THEY COULD FILL A VITAL ROLE IN YOUR PLAN.

Jimbo to Bulldog75: ACTUALLY, THE FAMILY PLAN FOR PRE-PAID LEGAL IS ONLY LIKE $15/MO. I KNOW 'CUZ MY WIFE JUDY, WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST TO MARKET IT IN OR.

HillbillyPreacher: Will the trust earn interest from the bank or do we have to invest from the trust to make it grow?

Jimbo to HillbillyPreacher: EITHER WAY.

duo to Jimbo: How do you actually close a business trust if you wanted to?

Jimbo to duo: U'R THE TRUSTEE. U VOTE AND DECIDE, JUST AS U WOULD IN A CORP. ISSUE THE FUNDS VIA CKS.

SemperFi to Jimbo: What is the advantage of setting up a Trust now rather than post RV?

Jimbo to SemperFi: I BELIEVE I'VE COVERED THAT Q PREV.

KingsKid: Your recommendation is that you should have well over 1 million dinars but when this RVs that could amount to as much as 7 million or more????

Jimbo to KingsKid: THAT IS TRUE.

dev: Am I to understand that anything under a 1 million dinar should not go into a business trust, iyo?

Jimbo to dev: NO, THAT'S NOT THE REASON. BUT WHY SPEND $1,295 TO PROTECT SOMETHING SO SMALL?

Jimbo to dev: NO. THE BUS. TRUST IS CREATED BY EXCHANGE, NOT BY GIFT OR SALE.


Bulldog75: NOTE: FOR THOSE WHO MAY HAVE BOUGHT INTO AN IRA PROGRAM WHERE THE IQD DINAR WAS PURCHASED AND PLACED INTO A VAULT: WARNING:

Bulldog75: I AM ACTIVATING MY DINAR AND CASHING IT IN THIS WEEK FOR MY IQD DINAR IRA.

Bulldog75: BOTH OF THOSE ANSWERS GO TOGETHER FROM BULLDOG.

Bulldog75: DO NOT LET YOUR "IRA IQD SET IN YOUR VAULT". CASH THAT OUT THIS WEEK BUT LEAVE THEN THE USD IN THE VAULT.

Bulldog75: IMHO.

Star1203 to Jimbo: I am new, just recently purchased Dinar.............Trying to listen carefully...........You may have discussed this previously......How do you open a Business Trust Account and what financial institution are you with Jim? Are there monthly fees to this new BT Account?

Jimbo to Star1203: PART OF THE SERVICES WE OFFER ARE TO FIRST OBTAIN U'R EIN W/ THE IRS, AND THEN ARR. TO ASSIST IN OPENING UP A BUS. TRUST CK'G ACC'T FOR IT. OUR BEST SUCCESS HAS BEEN W/ WELLS FARGE AND CHASE.

Bulldog75: ALL QUESTIONS ARE GOOD: WE HAVE NEWBIES, INTERMEDIATES AND PILOTS. WE ALL SHARE AND CARE. TYVM.

SBM0601: Are there any more questions

dev to Jimbo: I do not understand. this business trust is not sold for $$$? how does one aquire it then?

Bulldog75: CASH IN QUESTIONS FROM YESTERDAY'S SEMINAR. PLEASE PREP AND TAKE A LOOK. MANY 25 QUESTIONS ANSWERED HERE.http://www.okieoilman.net/t15732-bulldog75-post-rv-trust-q-a-1-07-12-133pm-cst

Jimbo to dev: I OFFER MY SERVICES TO PROVIDE U WITH A BUS. TRUST DOC. DRAFTED BY A TOP ATTY PREV. ON MY STAFF, WHOM I PAID BIG BUCKS. IT COSTS U $1,295 OR $695 FOR OTHER FAM. MEMBERS. IT COMES IN A VERY NICE 3 RING BINDER W/ INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET IT SET UP, ETC.

Jimbo to dev: TO ESTABLISH A BUS. TRUST W/ ME, I NEED U TO COMPLETE A WORKSHEET, FOUND IN THE INFO. I SEND

SBM0601: Everything we are talking about can be found in the forum

badger56 to Jimbo: where is the domain for the bus trust set up

Jimbo to badger56: U CAN SELECT THE DOMAIN TO BE WHEREVER U WISH. I PREFER ANY ONE OF THE 9 STATES W/OUT ANY STATE INCOME TAX. MY FAV. IS NV. IN THE INFO. I SEND, U CAN OBTAIN A PVT MAIL BOX W/WWW.MAILLINKPLUS.COM AND YOUR BUS. TRUST WILL BE LOCATED IN NV.

Bulldog75: LONELLC: THIS IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO PURCHASED IQD DIRECTLY INTO AN IRA AND THE IQD CURRENTLY SETS IN A VAULT AWAITING ITS RE-VALUE. WHEN THE NEW RATE POSTS; I WILL THEN CASH IN. EXAMPLE: ONE BUYS ONE MILLION OF IQD AT $1170. RATE POSTS REVALUE IS NOW $7 = I NOW HAVE $7,000,000 TO CASH INTO USD AND NOT LEAVE IN IQD.

Bulldog75: LONELLC: THATS A ROTH IRA BY THE WAY; AND GUESS WHAT. I DO NOT PAY TAXES AT AGE 70. WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! ON 7 MIL!!!
painthorse: Jim...If I set up a B trust with you and my children both adults want to set up their own B. trust, is the cost 1295 for each trust?

Jimbo to painthorse: NO, ONLY THE FIRST ONE IS $1,295. EACH SUBSEQUENT ONE IS ONLY $695

sharonsharon: my trust came this week- very promtly and is most professionally done-now- how do i go about learning and taking advantage of all the benefits it provides ?

Jimbo to sharonsharon: WE'LL HAVE ON-GOING SEMINARS & CONF. CALLS, AS WELL AS TOP ACCT'G HELP ALONG THE WAY. BUT THE DECISIONS AS TO WHAT U PLAN TO DO WITH IT WILL BE ENTIRELY UP TO U, NOT SOME ATTY OR BANKER.

Hallalman: Jimbo what would you advise a novice that has no experience in these matters that wouldn't know how to handle a business trust to do and protect theirself.

Jimbo to Hallalman: FIRST, READ & STUDY MY MATERIAL & LISTEN TO THE CONF. CALL. THEN, IF NEC, CALL ME.

greenfrogtrike to Jimbo: Are there any issues if our BT is setup in a bank other than the bank we will be cashing in thru?

Jimbo to greenfrogtrike: NO, ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S U'R CHOICE.

LSUTIGER: can you elaborate on why the new trust law makes it better for a corp to be owned by the trust now

Jimbo to LSUTIGER: I'D PREFER TO PASS ON THIS TONITE. IT'S A BIT MORE COMPLEX

Jimbo to LSUTIGER: I'VE NEVER CARED MUCH FOR A "FAMILY" TRUST. EVER HEARD OF FAMILIES HAVING SQUABBLES OR NEVER SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER FOR YRS.? NOW THROW MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THAT FORMULA!!! AND WORST OF ALL, MOST FAMILY TRUSTS ARE REVOCABLE, MEANING THEY DO NOTHING TO AVOID FED. ESTATE TAXES.

Bulldog75: WE WILL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK FROM 11PM TO 11:05PM AND HAVE BULLDOG ON WITH CASH IN PROCEDURES AND RV UPDATE!http://www.okieoilman.net/t15732-bulldog75-post-rv-trust-q-a-1-07-12-133pm-cst THESE ARE Q& A FROM YESTERDAY. 25 ANSWERS!!!

dev to Jimbo: does this business trust have a feature that allows us to sign over the iqd to trust, the cash in iqd in trust name for tax advantages?

Jimbo to dev: WELL, THE IQD IS ACTUALLY "EXCHANGED" INTO THE BUS. TRUST AND LISTED ON SCH. B INSIDE OF IT.

Bulldog75: REVIEW THESE 25 ANSWERS FROM YESTERDAY'S SEMINAR ON CASH IN . YOUR ANSWER MAY ALREADY BE THERE! TYVM.

Wheels60: How long would getting a BT set up be. Or if quicker what type of atty. would I need to see, ie... tax, trust, ????????

Jimbo to Wheels60: MOST ATTY'S KNOW LITTLE, IF ANYTHING, ABOUT A BUS. TRUST. THEY ONLY USE & KNOW STATUTORY TRUSTS. IF U DON'T KNOW THE DIFF., U NEED TO STUDY OVER MY MATERIAL & LISTEN TO MY CONF. CALL. THEN LET'S TALK.

Jimbo to Wheels60: LOOK IN MY MATERIAL & U'LL SEE THE 9 STATES W/OUT ANY INCOME TAX. I STILL PREFER NV.

Bulldog75: JIM JENKINS Q & A FROM YESTERDAY. SUPER REFERENCE FOR EVERYONE: http://www.okieoilman.net/t15724-jimbo-trust-q-a-1-07-12-1203pm-cst

Jimbo to Wheels60: THE IRS DOESN'T HAVE AN ACTUAL DESIGNATION FOR A BUS. TRUST; ONLY FOR AN IRREVOCABLE TRUST OR "OTHER." EITHER CATEGORY WILL SUFFICE.

Jimbo to Wheels60: WY HAS NO STATE INCOME TAX

upboaz to Jimbo: HELLO JIMBO. WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE FOR A CALL AFTER THIS Q&A

Jimbo to upboaz: PLS CALL ME TOMORROW AFTER 8 AM PACIFIC. I'M BUSHED.

Jimbo to upboaz: EITHER AN IRREVOCABLE OR "OTHER"

upboaz: THANKS JIMBO WILL DO

Jimbo to upboaz: FOR MY FREE BUS. TRUST INFO, SEND U'R EMAIL TO ME:JIM@JIMJENKINSMUSIC.COM

robert4260: Thank YOU

sandy: Jimbo-my BT acc't is in place domiciled in NV. I also have an Int free acc't (domiciled in my home state. ) Will I incur state taxes if I cash in to this acc't before I drop it into the BT? I have read it is wise to put in one acc't and immediately transfer to the BT for safety.

Jimbo to sandy: PROB. NOT BUT CALL ME TOM.

upboaz: I ALREADY SET UP MY BT WITH JIMBO. VERY QUICK VERY PROFESIONALY DONE

MiddleClassMaiden: THANK YOU JIM for your patience, expertise and caring... it is a JOY to have your input and wisdom! Thanks also to Bulldog75 and the entire OOM Team Family!

Jimbo to sandy: USUALLY JUST ONE BUS. TRUST WILL SUFFICE FOR OUR DINAR. I CALL THIS OUR "MOTHER LODE."

Bulldog75: OK LETS BREAK TIL 11:05PM AND LEXIE CAN POST JIM'S LINK. IT WILL GO INTO "WINGMEN POST"

Jimbo to sandy: I'D LIKE TO SIGN OFF FOR NOW, OK? U'VE BEEN GREAT, AND TKS

Jimbo to sandy: I'D LIKE TO SIGN OFF FOR NOW, OK? U'VE BEEN GREAT, AND TKS

Jimbo to sandy: BE PATIENT. I'LL GET OUT ALL THE REQUESTED INFO ASAP 











POOFNESS POST: " HAKE AND BAKE..AND I HELPED", 8 JAN

POOF for JAN 8: Shake and Bake....and I helped..(grin)
Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 8-Jan-2012 16:31:37
In Response To: POOF for NOV 6: Life Worth Living (hobie)


Greetings and Salutations,
"Give me control of a nation's money
and I care not who makes the laws."
Quote by:
Mayer Amschel Rothschild
[Mayer Amschel Bauer] (1744 -1812), Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel of Europe
41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The United States That Our Children Are No Longer Taught In School (at beforeitsnews.com)

Some of you remember the old 'eazy board' site originally set up by me, which became 'the sword of truth'. I made a statement that I've followed to this very day, I would slice and dice rumors to be put in the public to be 'spat' upon and ridiculed. I would point you in the right direction so, you could claim the info as your own, and not be repeating internet chatter to make you sound intellectual. Some read the 'Creature' book and kept going, others couldn't take that type of exposure to core held beliefs and went back to sleep. Oh well, the bucket of cold water has been filled and ready or not, they are about to 'get woke up'. So, to clear the air let me state; there has been no deliveries going on, not something I would miss, here is someone who actually gets that done and Mr Reagan chose him and a part of his crew. When they start dropping it will be full court press and they'll be finished in 3 days and you'll notice some 'weirdness' on Wall St. MK's dead, CH is in the land down under, BW has just been let out of the big house, and Gary was MIA sitting outside of a mailbox etc...with a 'tea cup dog' looking for them to come with drops. So much for reporting to your manager. Wanna reach a 'manager' call 911 on your cell and ask for God, as it has an antenna. (digital vs analog) God's using Wi Fi. too. What, you thought some tekky came up with it all by himself? This is a result of the misinformation campaign that went on steroids when the bad guys could see, the darkness was at an end, their 'days' were ending.
Few noticed when I said and it was 'official' the Chinese were behind the RV's, as they(Dragons) created the new banking system the whole world is about to go onto. Since the IMF is now connected to the(Dragon Clan families) they would not be working against their own interests, have you heard Lagard recently, she keeps saying 'hurry up'. She can see the fuse is lit and burning. The old enemies of the populace, had their bad ways and associations compromised.. Fiat money does not rule anymore, precious metal is being returned to its place in banking and economics. Once, just once, the Rothschild got the word directly from the dragons, a change was gonna come, they moved quickly to survive it. One of the 'usual suspects' was responsible for the RV not going public on Friday as intended, as Mr T used to say, 'I pity the fools'. Every last one of them who have been riding herd on the masses are getting their last chance to choose a side, being neutral is not an option! Butts are puckering out here, save for they who had a surgical removal of their sphincter muscle. They need pampers, they've already lost control of the leakage.
On the real side, certain folks have been made aware of the imminent arrival of their 'interest' money. They didn't get paid yet, it takes the regular folks to free up their access. Yes, even now, 'the little child shall lead them'. They have no problem eating or paying their bills, the regular folks do so, they come first. Don't trip about being missed, if your name is in the list, like Santa you'll be found. I remember a trustee in Europe saying, 'we know where everyone is and what they are doing'. The exactitudes have been a better kept secret, than the cia. Many things the CIA were informed of...like the no more printing of money to feed their operations. The folks with the gold rule! At this point new codes have not been needed to be inserted, the dragons have been testing the new system steadily, I mean hacking, to look for weaknesses.
Now, as far as this military movement, the good stuff always takes so long to get out. There is order tho it may not seem apparent. The World Court knew their would be folks acting out once the announcements were given so they issued a paradigm for two specific branches to follow to keep peace in the US. Having received a kick in the crotch a few years ago, I guess Mr Cheney needed to get another to make him feel alive, having no pulse and all. dang, he even sounds like Darth Vader these days, are we living an episode of Star Wars, or what? From what I'm hearing, we may be. Extreme discretion must be used from now on...paradigms will be blown out. What the masses have been told and believed for over 100 yrs, is getting reset and much will be uncomfortable to hear. oh well, we all must graduate from grade school and become adults. In this analogy, you refer to me as the hall monitor and I'm just reporting what the office said. Plus I have no problem telling on those that would create chaos to disguise their own misdeeds by blaming the lower class members. Like trying to blame the dealer on the corner for all the drugs in this country, as the dealers take care of their neighborhoods, helping out with bread, eggs, and milk. Gawd, what's this world coming to when drug dealers are 'socialists'?
So be ready, change is upon everyone, the old grey mare ain't what she used to be, how ever you want to phrase it. The 'moment' comes when it's time....yea I know, you hate that crap. Listen, when you're standing out in the middle of a field on a clear day and you feel a sudden shift in the atmosphere, at that instant, you may know you need to vacate that field for fear of getting zapped by a lightning bolt. If you hesitate you may find yourself drenched, too.The weather is changing right now, the RV's have to go public, because the new banking is being engaged...this isn't about opinions or speculation. This is about upsetting the gobal applecart, the arrival of what I have been writing these missives for all these years, which frankly tired of speaking of it. The atmospheric pressure has changed, hang onto your shorts. You will be the trustee of what is given you, I say Given, because I have detected the sense of 'entitlement', why? Because, you 'waited' while others did the job. A 'check up from the neck up' is the door we all must pass thru and the old 'judge not, lest you be judged' to get you 'right' in this new future before us. What ever shall you do, when no one is telling you what to do and you have no money issues? I guess well see.
Love and Kisses,

Poofness 

JOHN MACHAFFIE: "ALWAYS TELLING IT LIKE IS", 8 JAN

We all have been following the dinar guru's calls of any hour now,
any minute now for the Dinar RV to happen globally ----- still no cigar
after how long? Even Al Hodges and myself was wrong on the date! And I
highly respect Al Hodges for what he has been doing.


Time to publicly announce what is really going on. And this is exclusive -- a first time intel release on the net.

The IMF is in charge of the Dinar RV at this time. Only the IMF
.

This is a first time worldwide reset of the world's currencies in
order to get back to the gold based currency. Bye Bye Federal Reserve
IOU paper notes.


The IMF needs to do the sign off on the global release and this is
being done in Hong Kong (which is the world's financial center) this
weekend. A committee of seven is on route to there now.
They are
anticipating sign offs and RV by Monday.


This is the real story which has been hid from you. 

John MacHaffie ---- always telling it like it is

JONNY CHAT NOON, 8 JAN


Jonnywg] it is out of everyone’s hands

[DinarWishes] Afternoon My Fuzzy Tailed Friends!!! I hope all is well with you!!! 
I would like to update you and Say it’s amazing things are taking so long!!!
 But this is NOT a Normal situation or Update... Is it happening as fast as we want
 it to??? NO!!!! But, nothing ever does.... Important thing is, it IS HAPPENING 
AS WE SPEAK AND CANT BE STOPPED!!! So, WE ARE GOOD!!! Get your house in
 order and have a plan of action... EXAMPLE If the rate is X.XX then I will..... or if
 its YYY then I will... and So on!! Have a Plan of Action!!! If it was Hurricane Season 
and you knew it was coming right at you would you wait to get ready for it???? 
NOOOOOO!!! If you FAIL to PLAN... You PLAN to FAIL!!!

[jonnywg] we can only give you the info that we are given

[jonnywg] the codes and info are entered and completed ................it is in the 
verification stage

[jonnywg] we are heading back to Texas tomorrow if that helps

[punkin] jonnywg- what does the Verification Stage mean? Thank you

[jonnywg] punkin punkin they are verifying the calculations

[jonnywg] I am not allowed to disclose certain info .... so, read this as good news
mawbell] jonnywg going to texas to cashin?

[jonnywg] mawbell i hope that i will cashin in texas

[jonnywg] no one has any idea how long but it started yesterday and cannot be 
stopped................now that others have stated this info I can talk about it

[jonnywg] everything will drop in at once

[jonnywg] are we not lucky to have great mods and posters here on 3sintel 

[jonnywg] as DW WILL TELL YOU we had calls all night long

[DinarWishes] Yes We Did

[diesel] Calls that said what?

[jonnywg] diesel diesel I am flying to Texas to bird watch

[Little Smokey] Jonnywg Just read a post that med sent by email, cbi not
 changing their currency until end of 2012. Is that right? Or BS?:

[jonnywg] Little Smokeyask tomorrow

[Funheart] How many bird watching days will u be gone for?

[jonnywg] i am the only turkey at times

[oldcajun5] jonnywg I wish we could meet, I live on the border of Houston. 
Maybe we could meet and I could buy you lunch. It would be a great honor.

[jonnywg] oldcajun5 it is a short trip

[FIREFIGHTERGIRL] JONNYWG: your going to Texas tomorrow? HAVE a safe 
trip an send us some great news..

[jonnywg] firefightergirl I am coming back through GA the Next day to ATLANTA

[cheesehead] jonnywg When you say no one knows when this will finish, are
 you talking about the VERIFICATION process?

[jonnywg] cheesehead it will finish soon ...........I expect a call

[jonnywg] please no that no one knows the rate and if I am so lucky that it comes
 in at over $3 I personally will cash it all in... please think about this and do not be
 greedy as one never knows what can happen have a plan for tomorrow

[jonnywg] have a plan for future cashin

[jonnywg] because of legal ramifications the plans have to be reviewed and will
 be posted within 24 hrs here...they are free and good anywhere in usa

[elpedro] jonnywg How about Canadian Jonnywg?

[jonnywg] elpedro no Canadian have responded so it will be more trouble but 
we will send info in 24 hrs

[jonnywg] hester38 nothing different this time around .............except this is 
the first time that human hands are out of the picture

[Peeto] Bottom line... Is there a time stamp we can expect an announcement tomorrow...?

[DinarWishes] Peeto The expected time is taking longer on all counts... Again
 this is not like any other event so we are playing it by ear...

[BellaGrits] .TnGal I will USE onny's BANK PACKAGE!

[.TnGal] BellaGrits yes but the won't be ready for 24 hours post rv

[BellaGrits] JONNY's BANK PACKAGE is a very good package and i will have
 access to it just as you will.

[.TnGal] BellaGrits but you are in the "KNOW" so you have info to help you at 
cash in where some of us are waiting on jonny's bank packages

[jonnywg] Gandalf re AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND YOUR BANKS DID NOT 
COOPERATE............ AND WOULD NOT RECGNIZE THE IQD BUT..............
..... I WILL SEND A OKG TO YOU TO TAKE IN AND NEGOTIATE WIT

[CHICKS] jonnywg question...So I have this straight....You're going to Texas
 tomorrow, and plan on cashing in Texas, on to Atlanta on Tuesday. And we
 should have a plan to cash in tomorrow...and for the future as well? Correct?
 Thanks for the info sir. Pretty clear picture. I'll be ready.

[jonnywg] CHICKS HAVE A PLAN

[inwest] QUESTION - Jonny do you mean no Canadian banks have responded? 
What about your report 3 weeks ago that the RBC in Canada and the HSBC in 
Panama were dealing with the Dinar?

[jonnywg] INWEST ....NO CDN BANKS RESPONDED WHEN WE ASKED FOR A
 PACKAGE........ OTHER MANAGERS CONFIRMED THEY WOULD BE READY FO
 CASHIN

[cashinqueen] BellaGrits what are the packages for? Don’t need details but why
 packages? ty for any insight

[BellaGrits] cashinqueen the packages will give you a tremendous advantage 
with your negotiations already made for many of the high end options!!!! I have
 worked on one, but I believe Jonny will have a much better package!

[sailman9] Question :::: With NO Canadain BANKS on side --- can we go the 
CHASE here in Vancouver to use USA packages ::: also, HSBC and Scotia 
Bank should be accessible.

[jonnywg] SAILMAN9 ALL CDN MAJOR BANKS WILL CASHIN

[Bigdogone] Jonnywg: In Canada who are other managers???

[jonnywg] BIGDOG YOU ARE KIDDING ME IF YOU THINK I WOULD 
DISCLOSE THEM TO BE HARRASSED

[jonnywg] HSBC WILL BE A CASHIN BANK WORLDWIDE

[jonnywg] BANK PACKAGES ARE NOT ABOUT RATES JUST ABOUT 
BENEFITS OF LEAVING YOUR MONEY WITH A PARTICULAR BANK

[NJTXFL] jonnywg QUESTION: What is your best estimate for when we will be
 able to cash in ?

[jonnywg] NJTXFL FIRST BUSINESS DAY AFTER RV

[jaybird] jonny i dont care about he rate i just want an rv do u think it will be
 this week or next week

[BellaGrits] jaybird jaybird jaybird jaybird jaybird jaybird jaybird you know it 
will be this week!!! DinarWishes and I both have told ya!!!! Love ya man!

[nnywg] ASKING ME THE TIME OF THE RV TO HAPPEN HAS ENDLESS ANSWERS

[jonnywg] ASK FOR CURRENCY DEPT

[jonnywg] DEB I DO NOT THINK SO

[queenmum] Jonny When you mention cashing in right away. How long do you 
estimate it might be before the rate may
change (drop lower)? Thank you

[jonnywg] queenmum queenmum queenmum WE HAVE NO IDEA BUT I WILL NOT WAIT

[zapper] jonnywg You say you are cashing in immediately. Do you have a trust of 
corp in place, or are you cashing in in your own name?

[BellaGrits] zapper he told you he would cash in first, then setup things later....

[BellaGrits] zapper consult with your tax attorney, as my opinion would only be speculative.

[jec] jonnywg I do not know what the future holds for me however I will take a lot 
more from this experience than just the intel, but the grace in the way you handle 
and deal with people also you are true reflection of god on this earth a son of God
 and i know he is truly pleased with you God bless.

[BellaGrits] jec GOD sure was looking over all of us to have the pleasure to know 
JONNYWG!!!!! No Doubt, we will all be better people for it..

[jonnywg] JEC TX

[Stealth2] jonnywg do you think that hte cash-in rush is more a factor of getting 
a good exchange rate, or a function of getting deposits into badly ailing banks faster?

[jonnywg] Stealth2 WOULD TAKE TOO MUCH TIME TO ANSWER

[ekay] Question: What are the Bank benefits we will need to consider when we cash in?

[jonnywg] ekay ekay REVIEW PKG

[FLBeachGirl] Jonnywg Who is now in total control of this release? and how close is 
the Finish? Thanks

[jonnywg] FLBeachGirl OUT OF HUMAN HANDS

[modeller] jonnywg question do you think Citibank in Australia will deal with this, 
thank you appreciate your time and effort in this journey

[jonnywg] modeller YES

[RealDeal] Jonnywg what would be the best bank and the strongest bank...I 'm
 thinking Wells Fargo, what do you think??

[jonnywg] RealDeal CANT SAY

[Stealth2] jonnywg QUESTION: Will there be some way to deposit my Dinar into 
a dinar account with a bank/broker here in the US instead of converting to USD,
 EUR, GBP, CHF, etc???

[jonnywg] Stealth2 YES THROOUGH A BROKER

[machiej] Question: You said that this time it's different because it is out of 
human hands...will it ever be in human hands again?

[jonnywg] machiej HOPE NOT

[MalteseMommy] QUESTION Johnny: Will the VND drop when the IQD does?

[jonnywg] MalteseMommy NOT LIKELY

[OhanaNena] Jonnywg QUESTION iyo do you think this could go for another 
week? And if it pops how long before rate changes if it's high?

[jonnywg] OhanaNena OhanaNena YOUR RISKING A LOT

[.TnGal] Question Jonny if it updates at cbi and banks in the morning when is 
earliest cash in day

[jonnywg] .TnGal .TnGal TOMORROW

[Janee3108] (jonnywg)Question: will the 24 hour wait after the RV we have to
 wait to have access to the packages you have graciously negotiated for us cause
 a high risk to us that the rate will decline before we cash in? I apologize for

[jonnywg] Janee3108 Janee3108 Janee3108 CASIN THEN DECIDE WHICH 
BANK TO KEEP IT IN
[BellaGrits] Janee3108 he is telling you to cash in first, then worry about disbursing
 your funds....

[jonnywg] UK I WILL TRY TO GET BACK WHEN THE NEXT BIT OF INFO HITS....
.......... SEE Y’ALL SOON

BULLDOG POST, 8 JAN

JAN.8,2012 7:00PM CST.


BULLDOG75

Bulldog75: 7:00pm CST: THE SITUATION HAS PROGRESSED POSITIVE AGAIN TODAY. RATE FIGURE CALCULATIONS HAVE PURPORTEDLY BEEN ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM AND IS UNDER CURRENT REVIEW FOR ACCURACY. THE RATE POST HAS BEEN PROLONGED BY THE UN-CALCULATED LENGTH OF TIME TO SYSTEMATICALLY SATISFY ALL SOFTWARE AND POSTING RATES. DATA ENTRY AND RATES ARE LOADED AND THERE IS A CONTINUED PROJECTION NOW FOR THE RATES TO POST WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THOUGH WE HAVE BEEN CLOSE IN THE PAST, NEVER HAVE WE HAD THE ENCOMPASSED TOTAL PROGRESSION AND RATES FULLY LOADED. BANKS ARE PREPARING. AS TO WHICH BANKS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, WHICH MAY ASSIST YOU THE QUICKEST AND BEST, AS OF RIGHT NOW ONE WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT THEM DIRECT UNTIL WE GET FOR DEFINITIVE INFORMATION. SPECIFIC DETAILS HAD THIS POINT SHOW SIMPLY, WE ARE AS CLOSE AS ONE CAN GET PRIOR TO THE POST. RATES ARE HIGHER FOR THE DONG AND IQD THAN ORIGINALLY PROJECTED. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE HAS KNOWLEDGE OF THE "EXACT DATE AND RATE". IQD APPEARS TO BE ABOVE $5 AND DONG NEAR .10 CONSERVATIVELY. AS EXPRESSED FOR OVER 60 DAYS NOW, IMHO, MY FAVORITE PLANES ARE THE 747s. I WILL ALWAYS LOVE THOSE PLANES FOR IT'S A WONDERFUL AIRCRAFT, RELIABLE AND DEPENDABLE. WE CONTINUE ON A GOOD TO GO MODE. WE ARE POSITIVE AND OPTIMISTIC. DO NOT BELIEVE THE WILD RUMORS. WE ARE GROUNDED, READY AND PREPARED. "TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE" AND PLEASE PREPARE FOR LANDING. MAN PROJECTS; GOD DECIDES. 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE!!!, 8 JAN

1-8-2012 Guru BWM There is MUCH speculation on the rate…and I mean rates well above ANYTHING I ever expected when I got in this for 3…the understanding is that the computer will process the program, verify the process and go live…we know that the process has been running…As it was put to me by several impeccable sources this PROGRAM cannot be stopped…we are past the other “close” calls processes that have stopped before…so we wait.
1-8-2012 Guru Lojak based on a contact we had with a very high level person in the know (with impeccable credentials) we are in the moment… we are just waiting on the loading of the currencies…I have never been a rate and date guy, but I feel great about where we are.
1-8-2012 Guru DinarWishes What a Great Day to be alive and in this investment!!! There is nothing to be Down about or disappointed!!!! Trust me you are in a great place!!! I know we are all ready to cash out right now but the proccess is still trying to complete its course…I have been getting phone calls through the night and I’m very encouraged that we are just about there!!
1-8-2012 Guru Purplehelmet300 Best I heard was a high rate – then settling to above KWD…Not sure how long will stay high!
1-8-2012 Guru Blaino Revaluation target sighted, locked in and we are ready to fire at that FAT Pinata! I am more and more convinced that there will be NO ANNOUNCEMENT, per say…rather some vigilant person (one of THOUSANDS) will recognize that the IQD is trading and I think that’s how the news will come…we are in a time frame measureable easilly in days or even hours.
1-8-2012 Guru Doc We see it as no surprise that the RV did not occur this week…there are certain items that need to be in place to support the RV. It was stated in an interview earlier this week with Ministry of Finance persons that the RV would NOT happen until Parliament passed certain laws. We believe this to be…currency law. the CBI has full control of exchange rates but Parliament must approve items such as the restructuring of debt, the issuance of government debt and new currency. This we believe is one of the keys to what Shabibi has been waiting. Unfortunately we can find no indication as to when this will be addressed by Parliament. We believe it will be soon since it should be priority to Iraq moving forward. However, we caution all to remember the wheels have turned slowly in the past and this easily could take several more weeks. We report, you decide.
1-8-2012 Guru Bluwolf we still are waiting for the final numbers to match in and get locked down, it has been taking up more time than usual right now…I think its like going into 40 hours, but we are almost doneeverything is still on track.

CASHING STORY, 8 JAN


Guys and Gals no need to worry!! Right from the horses mouth, one of our own bsp members has a cahin story, took this off of ~nk’s post.
No worries now guy’s its gotta be true, forget those silly 1:1 stories
11:47 AM [itsallgood] I just ran into my chiropractor (whom I got involved in Dinar) at the grocery store and he was telling me that one of his patients, (who’s in a group several very wealthy people altogether own billions in dinar) got a call from WF Bank and told them they could cash in.
The bank is located about 40 miles from them, so WF sent 2 armored cars and 4 support vehicles to pick these guys up and cash them in at $7.00!
They cashed in a bunch but not all.
11:48 AM [itsallgood] The banker told them it will probably come out higher than $7.00! The money is sitting in their accts but they can’t touch it until it RV’s which the banker said would take place by Weds!!

BWM CHAT, 8 JAN


BWM] Not much update really… I hate repeating things… and at this point there just isn’t much more we can say but more IF’s and such… the process is short one small detail… a tradable ACTIVE rate on the bank screen… ::::: [BWM] There is MUCH speculation on the rate… and I mean rates well above ANYTHING I ever expected when I got in this for 3… the understanding is that the computer will process the program, verify the process and go live… we know that the process has been running and we do what we have learned to grudgingly do best… wait :::::
[BWM] We’ve discussed the rate NOT being .86 cents or a dollar for the international trading rate… just can’t be there for them to make the contractual agreements and based on budgetary constraints… :::::
******************************************************************* [book2] BWM, where could it be seen at 5:15 est today? [BWM] book2 – Well… that would be right after Forex opens… but would expect to see it on CBI before that happened… ,, Read More Link on Right
 
_[rightontime] BWM, with modern computing, you’d think it would take place very quickly… once given the go-ahead. [BWM] rightontime – How long does it take your computer to do things sometimes… a great deal of information that has to be verified and re-verified… throw in information that has to be transferred and RETURNED from other computers operating on different speed rates you can’t imagine the amount of data and transfer issues[elaine] BWM, I ran into someone on one of the other chats that is telling peeps… “We won’t see the RV til Maliki’s term is up”….. Could you respond to that stupid remark…. please? [BWM] elaine – Simply… Maliki is up… you will know it soon enough
[tater_tot] Do you agree with Jonny in that this can NOT be stopped? or with Studley – that many things could still possibly halt it? [BWM] tater_tot – As it was put to me by several impeccable sources this PROGRAM cannot be stopped… we are past the other “close” calls processes that have stopped before… so we wait.
BWM] I had a thought for those that continually negatively spout about this happening and also in regards to conversations that are allowed to take place in here sometimes… FAITH is the core of humanity… don’t believe me?
Why go to sleep tonight if you don’t BELIEVE you’ll awake to a new tomorrow… if you don’t have FAITH this is happening then step away and take a close look at your own humanity and what rules you… not to preach but tell you I BELIEVE THIS WILL HAPPEN and is ordained within the FAITH that keeps up awakening each day in hopes we can make a positive difference…
 

BELLAGRITS POST, 8 JAN


BellaGrits] well, it’s been a day…I’ve learned more about algorithms than I thought I ever would—studied them on Christmas Day but have had the opportunity to meet Wonderwoman24…..and have a full seminar on algorithms…..indeed as BWM stated there is much data to review and thankfully this is the last step before we have a “Go” ……..so let’s just hang in here and let the process complete–almost home.
[BellaGrits] BWM I think I need another 6 hours aof sleep….my head has enough IRAQ, algorithm, politic knowledge….I’m about to blow up…..I think we are right here people—right at the end….we are ready to here the word “GO” as I truly understand how huge this process is and the reviewing has been going on for hours now….I see light at the end of the tunnel for sure……

DINAR GURUS, 8 JAN

1-8-2012 Guru Lojak based on a contact we had with a very high level person in the know (with impeccable credentials) we are in the moment… we are just waiting on the loading of the currencies…I have never been a rate and date guy, but I feel great about where we are.
1-8-2012 Guru DinarWishes What a Great Day to be alive and in this investment!!! There is nothing to be Down about or disappointed!!!! Trust me you are in a great place!!! I know we are all ready to cash out right now but the proccess is still trying to complete its course…I have been getting phone calls through the night and I’m very encouraged that we are just about there!!
1-8-2012 Guru Purplehelmet300 Best I heard was a high rate – then settling to above KWD…Not sure how long will stay high!
1-8-2012 Guru Blaino Revaluation target sighted, locked in and we are ready to fire at that FAT Pinata! I am more and more convinced that there will be NO ANNOUNCEMENT, per say…rather some vigilant person (one of THOUSANDS) will recognize that the IQD is trading and I think that’s how the news will come…we are in a time frame measureable easilly in days or even hours.
1-8-2012 Guru DocWe see it as no surprise that the RV did not occur this week…there are certain items that need to be in place to support the RV. It was stated in an interview earlier this week with Ministry of Finance persons that the RV would NOT happen until Parliament passed certain laws. We believe this to be…currency law. the CBI has full control of exchange rates but Parliament must approve items such as the restructuring of debt, the issuance of government debt and new currency. This we believe is one of the keys to what Shabibi has been waiting. Unfortunately we can find no indication as to when this will be addressed by Parliament. We believe it will be soon since it should be priority to Iraq moving forward. However, we caution all to remember the wheels have turned slowly in the past and this easily could take several more weeks. We report, you decide.
1-8-2012 Guru Bluwolf we still are waiting for the final numbers to match in and get locked down, it has been taking up more time than usual right now…I think its like going into 40 hours, but we are almost doneeverything is still on track.

PTR FORUM CHAT, 8 JAN


Jan 8 4:02 AM [brsuperduty] PaPaJack1952 good to hear i think we’ll see this thing within the next 24hrs.
 Jan 8 4:03 AM[PaPaJack1952] brsuperduty I agree 100% on that from what I’m hearing and my Banker saying he’s got 80mil in this
4:06 AM [Islander] Interesting evening last nite – I had some words with my wife, and she had some paragraphs with me
4:07 AM [Josey Wales] Good morning all…………lets pray that this is our day……………………I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
4:17 AM [PaPaJack1952] jamajacks family all we can can do at this time is Just wait till it shows up it is on it’s way we are on a any minuite time frame now
4:18 AM [RVNeeder] CBI Updated today the 8th and unfortunately its same as allways cbi.iq
4:18 AM [Josey Wales] A WORD OF ADVISE……GET YOUR PLAN TOGETHER NOW……THINGS ARE PROGRESSING, AND WE WILL BE BUSY VERY SOON
 4:23 AM [Josey Wales] Just a few ideas…….WHERE ARE YOU CASHING OUT?…………..WHERE WILL YOU PARK YOUR FUNDS (TYPE OF ACCOUNT)…….THINK ABOUT ASSET MANAGEMENT AND PROTECTION…….PLEASE SEEK PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE FOR TAX AND LEGAL ISSUES
4:27 AM [HeavenisHome] bald eagle absolutely!! much has been coming out inthis past weekt hat i have heard of cold fusion units that will power houses and towns. We have had the technolgy for while now. time for the people of earth to beneit from what the few have known and had.
4:28 AM [HeavenisHome] Tesla technologies have been having a major push lately as well. i’m super excited about this year woohooo
 4:28 AM [RoseRedTyler] Josey Wales I have told m y family, this is a once in a life time happening..think your personal future…go to dentist, pay off house, or buy new, prepare a garden, drill a well, get a windmill, make sure the place is big enough that if family need to move, youo will have room to put them..prepare
 4:28 AM [RoseRedTyler] yorself and your children to be self sufficient
4:28 AM [brsuperduty] PaPaJack1952 funny how almost all the intel got on the same page again just overnight!
 4:46 AM [PaPaJack1952] HeyCowboy GM my Brother we are on a any minuite time frame now my Brother
_4:49 AM [rmjsilver] The IMF needs to do the sign off on the global release and this is being done in Hong Kong (which is the world’s financial center) this weekend. A committee of seven is on route to there now. They are anticipating sign offs and RV by Monday.
 4:50 AM [lojak] rmjsilver just got on–that info about inte IMF is incorrect–that has already occured
4:51 AM [wahoo3] lojak It’s in the UST hands now–correct?
4:54 AM [lojak] wahoo3 it is in the hands of the ust
4:51 AM [PaPaJack1952] devildogmom GM I’m looking for it to show up any minuite now from today to monday
4:51 AM [HeyCowboy] lojak ..did studley ever clarify his statement from last nite??
4:51 AM [HeyCowboy] …about rv bein a several weeks out
 4:51 AM [lojak] HeyCowboy thats his problem–we are just waiting on the loading of the currencies
4:55 AM [lojak] so last when I went to bed, the system was still updating, I’m assuming that is still the case??
4:56 AM [lojak] shasta7 hey, man I assume the system is still updating??
4:56 AM [lojak] juicelady 155 currencies –jonny is very surprised too
4:56 AM [shasta7] lojak ……………. I would think you are right… :-)
4:57 AM [HeyCowboy] lojak …I hope we are all surprised..today!!
 4:58 AM [lojak] HeyCowboy I think please will be the right word–jonny says that this cant be stopped to surprised would not be the word i use–just going by his statement
 4:59 AM [lojak] daysjd1 I was on the phone with jonny when he got that update,
 5:00 AM [lojak] Debbra we are still waiting on thte system to finish its update as jonny repost just said
 5:00 AM [Debbra] lojak ok, seen where he said you had some great news. thought it may have been different
5:01 AM [Josey Wales] BANK PACKAGES UPDATED ********** THIS WILL NOW be in the forum UPON RATE activation **** NOTHING NEEDED from you NO INFO, nothing, zilch, zero, nada! Just that you need to make sure you are registered for the forums. NO personal info
5:01 AM [lojak] Josey Wales thanks
5:13 AM [Josey Wales] Rate in Iraq will be for better standard of living, and buy more for their money……our rate will be different especially if tied to the GBP **(last night: [lojak] hey guys, just got off the phone with a super high level contact with impeccable resume–he has confirmed that the RV is in fact in process and we will be happy with the rate–he has confirmed jonnys timing)
5:44 AM [honeybelle] ok what is jonnywg timing
 5:44 AM [lojak] laurelei thanks for that repost–I couldnt remember what i said lol
5:44 AM [lojak] honeybelle when the program finishes loading in all the rates
 5:45 AM [FIREFIGHTERGIRL] lojaK : good morning is it still going to be a good day.
 5:45 AM [lojak] FIREFIGHTERGIRL if this program will ever quite running lol
5:46 AM [lojak] that last post from jonny is the one that explains it all i think
5:46 AM [Josey Wales] lojak lets hope is stays running, and M does not put a stick in the spokes lol
5:47 AM [lojak] Josey Wales from what i hear, m is the one that gonna get skewered lol
5:47 AM [lojak] Josey Wales he has held this up for months–so he doesnt have to give up a little power 5:47 AM [wanda] lojak what’s was your great new’s?
5:48 AM [lojak] wanda my phone hadnt been disconnected yet
5:48 AM [mules] dgs32 He (bluwolf) posted a link to a video for our learning to deal with wealth and he said to pay particular attention to the list of banks to choose a safe one.
5:48 AM [Josey Wales] lojak just keep O outta the picture……..please
5:48 AM [lojak] Josey Wales I think even he is exausted with the situation
5:49 AM [Josey Wales] lojak I think O is getting his wish…..my intel a month ago was he tried to delay until March 2012 for political gain
5:50 AM [lojak] Josey Wales yea but teh world is out of time–gotta go now
*7:17 AM [Writer] The Weiss Report is very much like Stansbury & Assoc … their business is selling subscriptions to their newsletters–and once on their list, you are BOMBARDED with emails, each leading to a more costly subscription. They know that FEAR sells, not sure how seriously to take their fear mongering. 7:18 AM [olesailor] Writer agreed
7:18 AM [dash riprock] Writer very true…
 7:18 AM [mamacook1960] Writer , yep I made the mistake of signing up for their publication………..5 emails a day
7:18 AM [dash riprock] Writer among many others
7:18 AM [chillimac] lookingood i think we have to use a major bank, but then get out as quickly as possiable
7:21 AM [dash riprock] patriot1490 Bad news and fear sells…
7:21 AM [patriot1490] dash riprock exactly
 7:22 AM [dash riprock] chitowngirl not all fact…much conjecture is mixed in as asserted fact
~nk Here: I saw that video about a year ago now… and even then I knew it was being used as a sales pitch, in fact many others affiliated in that used the same video as their selling tool…. Just an FYI However that is not to say that I wouldn’t use caution where I put my money… things may be tricky for a while, even Dan & Tony say that…
7:25 AM [RapidRoyP] MY FAVORITE INTEL TO DEBUNK – is the issue of tier cash ins or cash in my the Whales before and of you. This will not be happening and is just so much bunk. When the rates go live we will all have the information available. After the the priority of you cash in will be determined by you banking relationship of the order in which you schedule your appointment at a currency dealer. Could there be long lines at the banks, YES. SO PLAN!!!
7:39 AM [bluwolf] hey its a suggestion only,do what you please but down here we have a thought about things,it says when you here the water watch out for its coming
7:40 AM [bluwolf] so me bluwolf will be in and out in 3 days and so will my 1,900,000 followers, take care now and be bless
7:41 AM [bluwolf] AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUU 7:41 AM [bluwolf] thats how serious I see this,,, so should you
 7:48 AM [bluwolf] worldwide meltdown MARCH 2012,,,be prepared
7:48 AM [bluwolf] PERIOD
 7:50 AM [bluwolf] its not the meltdown that bothers me is where you wwwwwwwwwwwwput your monies for it could disappear in a wink of the eye, so please be wise that is all
 7:50 AM [bluwolf] good day
8:01 AM [~nk] Perhaps if we listened in spirit rather than in fear we might hear things a bit clearer …. nothing wrong with being prudent but anything else to me is living in fear and that is not how I choose to live my life… it is not how we were intended to live our lives… fear was taught to us… I choose to release those shackles myself… be wise yes, but not fool hardy living my life in fear. Yes, I will be conservative as to my approach with this new abundance and not go off buying needless indugences that are really “just for show”… I plan on continuing living a simple life but a comfortable one in which I can truly enjoy life and not stress over keeping a roof over our heads or food in our bellies… then I can take time to stop and smell the roses, truly do that… ahh bliss
8:41 AM [Dinars] lojak We still on track?
8:42 AM [lojak] Dinars fer as i know, just waiting on the dag gon computer program to finish
8:42 AM [suzy] Bluwolf is only saying be careful, diversify and make sure you are aware that things can go wrong. Not trying to place fear, trying to open eyes
8:47 AM [bandit] I have come to the conclusion— All we hear about is waiting for systems to line up or drop in place.We did’nt have these problems when we used BIG CHIEF tablets



MAILMAN CHAT, 8 JAN


Mailman17 1/8/12 9:18am CT

mailman17:
TOP OF THE MORNING
stlou:
cr@p..he's here..
you geet my text the other day MM?
alk4316:
hey 17
mailman17:
YES ITS A SIGN AND NO I DIDNT GET YOUR TEXT
INCREASED SIZE OF THE BUDGET MUST HAVE BEEN OKED BY THE IMF
AND WITH THAT, EXPLANATION TO PARLIMENT
THE MAIN BANKS UNDER THE CBI WILL FILTER THE NEW TO THE VARIOUS SMALLER BRANCHES
ESPECIALLY IN THE KURDISH REGION
Stlou:
where they're pumping oil like crazy
mailman17:
LIKE CRAZY IS THE WORD
I WOULVE TAKE A GUESS THAT THEY SHOULD BE AT 3.5 AT THE END OF THE 1ST QUARTER
stlou :
at the current price of oil, and the increase in production, they should be sitting pretty to pop the big one soon
mailman17:
GUARDIAN...I AGREE..
THE INCREASE ONLY BACKS IT FURTHER.
WE GOT A ROOM FULL...THIS IS GOOD
NEO, LOU, GUARDIAN ALK....HOW CLOSE ARE WE?...YOUR THOUGHTS?
1,2,3 GO
alk4316:
eom
mailman17:
WHY?
neo says:
60 days +-
mailman17:
EXPLAIN
alk4316:
the vote and the unrest
people want this done
mailman17:
VOTE ON THE BUDGET?
guardian:
when budget is final
mailman17:
AND YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE 22 DAYS OR LESS TO GET THAT DONE?
Bam Bam:
imo a lot is going to happpen when they vote on that budget
neo:
I would add the banking infrastructure is not level playing field as of yet
mailman17:
OK..NEO..WHY 60 PLUS?
guardian :
they have been known to drag it out
mailman17:
TRUE
mailman17:
BUT THE STREETS ARE DRY
mailman17:
AND THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INFORMED

guardian:
right, they have to move on it
mailman17:
PLEASE GO ON NEO...WHY 60 PLUS?
mailman17:
YES GUARD
alk4316:
expected to begin the process of replacement of a second after the removal of three zeros end of this year, and this will be decided by the government »
mailman17:
NEO...WOULD YOU NOT THINK THAT WAS PART OF LEVEL 1
neo says:
they need to transact with their cell phone and rush to license companies recent was
mailman17:
OR SHOULD I SAY STEP 1 OF 3
neo :
push to support economic agenda through cbi
mailman17:
WITH 2 BEING ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BILLS INTO SOCIETY ALONG WITH THE NEW RATE?
YES...VERY MUCH NEEDED
alk4316:
the government will decide the when and the removal of the 0's by the end of the year
mailman17:
THEY ALREADY HAVE
2 YEARS
FROM THE START OF STEP 2
stlou:
yes..
mailman17:
STEP 3 IS RETIREMENT AND THE NOTES OUT OF CIRC
stlou:
and this will not take as long as anticipated..
guardian:
saleh likes to throw us off from their real intentions sometimes
mailman17:
YES HE DOES
stlou:
I'll retire my notes if Shabs just gives the word
mailman17:
I AGREE LOU
mailman17:
SHABBIBI HAS BEEN MORE THAN GRACIOUS IN GIVING US A TIMELINE AND THE ACTUAL STEPS ALONG WITH IT
HE HAS ALSO GIVEN THE PEOPLE THE HEADS UP NEEDED
alk4316:
exactly still think they are missing a vote on the printing ?
neo :
I also think the "national key" component has to be completed we have read about
stlou:
and the IMF/US/World will hold him to it..
or the IMF will do it for him
mailman17:
WHEN THOSE NEW DENOMS HIT THE STREETS AT 1-1....I THINK THEY WILL TAKE OFF LIKE PANCAKES
ALS..NOT ME..I THINK THE NOTES ARE THERE
stlou:
dollar pancakes?
alk4316:
ok 17 your turn
mailman17:
JUST NEED A VOTE TO MAKE THEM LKEGAL TENDER
LEGAL
stlou:
uhh MM..Kegal is something totally different
mailman:
TYPO ERROR.....ONE CUP OF COFFEE
GETS BETTER AFTER THE 2ND
^o)
neo:
going for cup 2 brb
mailman17:
NEO...STILL HERE?
GOOD
alk4316:
17 when ??
mailman17:
GUARDIAN?
guardian:
yes
mailman17:
WHEN WHAT?
JUST CHECKING
BARBIE...YOU HERE?
alk4316:
I said eom lou said 60 days
ArlingtonAZ:
all I know is it's a slap in the face to the Iraqi citizen to have to use currency with the United States of America written across the top of it , when it will happen i'd say ASAP
mailman17:
AWRIGHT
neo:
still here just going for more coffee
mailman17:
LETS GET TO BRAINSTORMING...AZ IS HERE
AZ..I AGREE
THEY WENT TO A LOT OF TROUBLE
alk4316:
when do ya think ({)
mailman17:
TO DE-DOLLARIZE
guardian:
after all they are "sovereign" now
mailman17:
AND FORCE THE USE OF THE EXISTING DINAR
guardian:
well kind of lol
Dinar Mark:
Ok, first things first. Budget?
mailman17:
UNTIL...SHABS NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT A BOGUS RATE DROP AND INCREASE OF THE DOLLAR
guardian:
to them they are sovereign...that's all that matters

mailman17:
WHICH MIND BOGGLED THE AVERAGE IRAQI
FLOODING THE MARKET INSID WITH US
neo:
agreed
mailman17:
WAS THE ONLY THING HE COULD DO TO ASSURE TOTAL TAKE IN OF ANY FLOATERS
NOW
THERES US DOLLARS EVERYWHERE
stlou:
and causing panic and fear so they dump their dinr
dinar*
mailman17:
THEY FOUND SOME IN A CAMELS tailend..THATS HOW NUCH IS THERE
alk4316:
I think when they start buying back dinar in the streets it will be 1-1
mailman17:
YES LOU
ArlingtonAZ:

stlou:
let's not get personal here MM
mailman17:
IT HAS TO BE
stlou:

stlou:
now this poses a question..
guardian:
i 2nd the 1 to 1
alk4316:
shabs is brillliant
mailman17:
YES HE IS
stlou :
if you are trying to instill in your people faith in your currency, why would you cause fear and doubt?
mailman17:
AND THIS CHANGE WILL NOT QISS OFF THE AVERAGE JOE....AS LONG AS IT BUYS THE SAME
AND BEING PROUD THAT FINALLY THEIR DINAR IS EQUAL
PLAYING THE TRUMP CARD
MINOR FEAR AND DOUBT
HOW LONG DID IT LAST?...WEEK?
10 DAYS
THATS NOTHING
Dinar Mark:
The sense of "Nationalism" will be a big shot in the arm
mailman17:
BIG TIME MARD
MARK
alk4316:
gotta get ready for church guys great chat
mailman17:
THEY WILL GET A NEW NOTE WITH A NEW VALUE
EQUAL TO THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR
guardian:
take that wing out of your hand mm17 and you could type better
mailman17:
PRIDE WILL MAKE THEM USE THAT OVER GEORGE WASHINGTON
mailman17:
LOL
WHAT IF I HAVE BOTH HANDS IN WINGS?
AND AM TYPING WITH MY FOREHEAD
LOL
OH MED?.
guardian:
lol
mailman17:
THAT HAS TO BRING YOU OUT IF YOUR GHOSTING...LOL
mailman17
OHHHHHHHHHH MEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD<)
HES PROBABLY OUT FOR BREAKFST
AZ STILL HERE?
stlou:
don't know
why don't you call him MM?
ArlingtonAZ:
yes back
mailman17:
OK...I AM GONNA SIT BACK AND SIT ON MY HANDS...YOU GUYS FINISH AND GIVE ME A SHORT EDITORIAL ON WHERE WE SIT...OK?
WE HAVE A LOT OF BRAIN POWER ON RIGHT NOW
GO
I WILL NOT INTERRUPT

ArlingtonAZ :
well shabb's once said "when the goi is completed"
so are they? hmm almost
but maybe shabb's can't wait ({)
thepainman:
didnt he also say wanting security in place?
guardian:
if i were shabs, i wouldn't wait
yes
Dinar Mark:
Ok, let's start with the budget. It is looking like that might pass the parliment sometime maybe in the next couple of days maybe week. Then what will we be looking for?
tdk:
security and complete goi
Dinar Mark:
The budget will be a big hurddle
stlou:
but..
GOP:
I think the complete goi will be a problem because M will not give up security unless it is life or death for him..
guardian:
2nd reading already started, continuing tomorrow
ArlingtonAZ:
i look for implementation of budject after it's be approved
stlou:
in regards to the budget..remember they STARTED the reading yesterday, but are finishing it tomorrow, hopefully..when is the 4th day after the second reading?

ArlingtonAZ:
budget lol
guardian:
thursday! vote
Dinar Mark:
Dinar printing allocation is in budget, correct?
GOP:
4th day would actually be Friday
unless they count both Monday and Thursday in the 4 days
Dinar Mark:
Just read an article in "New Posts: that Jubouri, a member of State Law, has come out to say revalue now. He is also a lawyer and is on finance committee, this has got to be a good sign? yes!
guardian:
Yes, and they would be foolish not to go with it.
thepainman:
we would think
but the ultimate mastermind behind this plan obviously doesnt think so, he is stubbornly sticking to his plan
mailman17:
AWESOME THINKING PEEPS... NOW I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK YOU ALL...READY
GOOD POINT PAIN
WE ALL KNEW OF SHABS PLAN
thepainman:
and he must think that any deviation will result in failure or he would have pulled the trigger already
mailman17:
BUT NOW...WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE 3 STEP VERSION
thepainman:
yes
neo:
Correct
guardian:
announced the Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of representatives on Saturday ending the "first phase of a project delete zeros of Iraqi currency, which included the purchase of equipment for the implementation of the project" this is the cart, the horse must have come first to be this far along, somewhere it was approved, if not by the CBI alone
mailman17:
YES
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT FIRST STEP ENTAILED...OTHER THAN DE LA RUE MACHINES....1,2,3. GO
thepainman:
banking structure ie computer and internet infrastructure
neo:
consensus for starters
guardian:
the Finance Committee "convinced" Parliament
mailman17:
BINGO...VERY NICE...AND?
thepainman:
which would also entail electrical communication
ArlingtonAZ:
bank cards visa, mastercard ,atm machines
thepainman:
between banks
mailman17:
GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE HINT...IN ORDER FOR THE DINAR TO BECOME GLOBAL....EVEN BEFORE THEY GO 1-1 OR INTRODUCE NEW BILLS EQUAL TO THE DOLLAR..WHAT MUST THEY DO INTERNALLY?
thepainman:
computer programs
mailman17:
AZ...BINGO
Dinar Mark:
Whoo, I don't know. What's behind door 2
slow:
tell people about change
mailman17:
KEEP GOING
neo:
national key
thepainman:
isx
reuters
mailman17:
ISX...ANOTHER BINGO
sierra12:
monitary plates for printing and coin stamps for minting
mailman17:
KEEP GOING
ArlingtonAZ:
explaination of how these things work
thepainman:
paper and metal
for minting
hireing workers and training them



neo:
Well there is also the fact that when they announce there has to be sufficient confidence that world banking will accept the dinar and their is sufficient confidence or reserve collateral to risk tolerance to all their markets including Forex and commodity trading
mailman17:
AZ..THATS THE HARDEST PART...EXPLAINING THIS TO SECOND GRADERS
ArlingtonAZ:

mailman17:
EXACTLY NEO
LETS THINK BACK A BIT
ISX INSIDE OUR OWN TRADING?
MONTHS AGO RIGHT?
thepainman:
yes
mailman17:
THATS 1
VISA AND MASTERCARD SET UP SHOP?
thepainman:
yes
neo:
ok
mailman17:
AND LOADED ON IRAQI CARDS TO BE USED GLOBALLY?
guardian:
along with a bride to parliament of wings n beer - all-you-can-eat
*bribe

mailman17:
ALL BANKS NOW TIED IN THROUGH ATMS?
neo:
safer than a stroll to the walk in lobby
mailman17:
THE CBI NOW TIED IN TO THE WB?
I THINK THATS WHAT STEP 1 WAS ALL ABOUT
GETTING EVERYTHING ELECTRONICALLY DONE
neo:
yes
thepainman:
the biggest part
mailman17:
WHETER OUTSIDE OR INSIDE IRAQ
MAJOR PART PAIN
ArlingtonAZ:
agreed mm17
thepainman:
also the most complicated
mailman17:
THEY ARE DONE
mailman17:
THEY NOW GO TO STEP 2
guardian:
electonic is not all done, but close enough imo
mailman17:
YES AGREED

thepainman:
agree
neo:
yes
mailman17:
REITERATE...BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE...OUTSIDE BEING THE KEY WORD
mailman17:
ESPECIALLY INCLUDING THE ISX
SGTMMAURO521:
The articles never mention when a second or third phase for the deleting of the currency, however we know first phase is complete we have seen this with auctions from lifting of the zeros from the market. I think the second phase is to RV and introduce the LD's, Third phase will be I think to phase out Larger Denoms over what they were saying in the next 2 years. So my thoughts are they have to RV this year, only they will be able to be open to global markets and to attract investers.
mailman17:
NICE SUMMATION SGT
guardian:
the 'international' Visa's were kind of a giveaway
neo :
Nice SGT
mailman17:
BIG TIME GUARDIAN
Dinar Mark:
Electronic foundation built
mailman17:
MARK...THATS WAS AS MUCH NEEDED AS THE NEW NOTES
WHY?
MOST TRANSAVCTIONS WILL BE WIRELESS AND PAPAERLESS

thepainman:
what did they need to go to too be global, from 14 to 8, sorry brain freeze
ArlingtonAZ:
big hint guardian
Dinar Mark:
Vote would not do a thing without proper distrubition
neo:
revenue and liquidity tracking
mailman17:
AND I WILL USE MY NEWFOUND WEALTH TO TAKE TYPING LESSONS...LOL
thepainman:
liar

mailman17:
YEAH..YOU RIGHT...JUST BEER AND WINGS
thepainman:
big house and plenty of wings and beer

mailman17:
NEO..YES BOTH ARE MANDATORY
thepainman:
did anyone answer my ?
mailman17:
14-8?
thepainman:
i cant remember
thepainman:
yes
guardian:
14-8 wings?
mailman17:
YES...WE KNOW..YOU HAD A BRAIN FEEZE...LOL
thepainman:
dang
mailman17:
FREEZE
NOW...;ETS TAKE THIS ONE BABY STEP FURTHER
EDUCATION WAS A MUST
NOW...THE PEOPLE KNOW WHATS GOING ON
THEIR SLOW....BUT NOT THAT SLOW
thepainman:
good lord they have been hearing about this for over a year
mailman17:
YES
BUT THE LAST FEW WEEKS...ESPECIALLY WITH THE RATE DROP WAS A TELLTALE SIGN
THAT IS WHY IMO...THIS WILL HAPPEN AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AFTER THAT BUDGET GETS APPROVED
ALONG WITH WHATEVER SHABS NEEDED VOTING ON
HE IS AND ALWAYS WAS READY
10 STEPS AHEAD OF EVERYONE THERE
thepainman:
thats not saying a whole lot
guardian:
gotta have a fancy currency to go with his new bank
mailman17:
SO STEP 1 WAS A LITTLE MORE DETAILED THAN JUST DE LA RUE MACHINES?

LOL
neo:
no doubt that monetary policy is hinged to budget and related fiscal controls like taxation and borrowing
mailman17:
NEO
YES...THATS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY NEXT...LOL
thepainman:
yes taxation
mailman17:
BINGO
AND FOR THAT...ALL SYSTEMS MUST BE COPESINK
neo:
Agreed
thepainman:
yep and people have to be trained extensively
mailman17:
THIS WAS A GOOD CHAT....WE TOOK DOWN STEP ONE FURTHER THAN ANYONE ELSE EVER HAS
thepainman:
in tax laws
neo:
step 2 framework appears well defined in scope. We will see evidence unfold rapidly imo
mailman17:
AND IN DOING THAT...IT HOPEFULLY GIVES YOU THE INSIGHT ON JUST HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND WHY IT WILL NOT WAIT
I AGREE NEO
Dinar Mark:
Discuss "Step 2 " further
ArlingtonAZ:
point is this thing is moving foward and picking up steam imho
thepainman:
yes it is
mailman17:
MARK...CHA-CHING
Dinar Mark:
Oh ok, I like that step!!
mailman17:
AZ..YEPPERS
neo:
evidence of managed or defined process's between MOF and CBI I look for
mailman17:
STEP 1 WAS THE LONGEST BUT MOST IMPORTANT STEP...TAKING YEARS...
THAT TOO NEO
thepainman:
i would still like to see a book covering this whole process, so i can see it in a concise format instead of trying to rememeber all thst has happened
ArlingtonAZ:
Iraq's trying to catch up that's all with the rest of the world
mailman17:
NOT ME PAIN...AFTER THIS I WILL JUST LOOK AT THE PICTURES....LOL
thepainman:

mailman17:
AZ...CATCH UP?...YES...BUT THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE EQUIPPED TO GET INTO THE GAME....THEY WILL SOON MAKE THE STARTING LINEUP
AND REAL FAST
ArlingtonAZ:
8 by 10 glossy of shabb's on my wall in my office
neo:
I'm tired of building this model by reading directions. I prefer pictures too
mailman17:
SEE...LOL
OK PEEPS...GONNA RUN...AWESOME THINKIING ON ALL YOUR PART....KUDOS...
BUT WE ARE NOT DONE YET....LOL
LATER
thepainman:
later
ArlingtonAZ :
(}) later bud
guardian:
lol later
thepainman:
thanks everyone
all of the great minds
neo:
Yes that was a good exercise. Later 17 and gang
thepainman:
later neo
neo:
(})
mailman17:
AND THANKS TO ALL THE MEMBERS THAT PARTICIPATED......TY
thepainman:
you pulled it out of us
mailman17:
I JUST LIT THE FUSE...YOU GUYS TOOK IT FROM THERE...LOL
Mountainman:
Good job this morning guys!
mailman17:
I WAS GONNA GIVE A CHAT...BUT INSTEAD GAVE YOU GUYS THE CHANCE TO DO IT FOR ME....LOL
PARTICIPATION MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND...LOL