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Friday, December 23, 2011

JONY UPDATE 23 DEC

10:49 AM EST [jonnywg] we are trying to verify that kuwait just rv'd at 3.90 --- but there is action on the bank screens

[jonnywg] 6 other currencies show value 

[jonnywg] it will take a couple of hrs...........but i will report as it happens


NOON:

jonnywg] I have verification from a print screen that he Kuwait rate is now live. Expect the rest of the rates to drop in. I will be back later for confirmation. Our finance expert is headed to the bank to watch the currency screens

GENERALS64 POST 23 DEC

[generals64] The rate I was told yesterday was on a bank screen and not a so-called back screen....My banker is not a work yet so , I wait like you do....But...the harassing calls (I know excitement) has had a lot with the banks working with us and telling things....I have NEVER alled a bank about this...I have gone and looked
generals64 This one? [knobby] 12-23-2011 Guru ScottiG The ISX has closed…until Jan 3! The timing for this is exceptional. I know numerous individuals were stating over the last couple of weeks that Currency insiders were trading with the stock market in Iraq and that they knew the rates. COME ON MAN! NO! NO! NO! There is not a valid active currency in the market place yet. They are trading speculative paper with rates all over the place and that is all. They are positioning themselves for the release. That however explains in part the need to close the ISX down. They cannot afford for their systems crash and burn from the massive activity from these Future’s order that are in place. The Currency traders are prepositioned and ready for this to happen at any moment…now this is truth!

ckh:.....I owe you for that....Thanks...I don't know how to cut and paste....Now, they (Iraq) still have a CROWN PRINCE and even Sadam's Thugs knew not to bother him or his entourage....It has something to do with their Religion and his Status within the country....Oh, if you guys remember DONNIER....(old Guru) he knows the guy....Donnie R was a great source...he got tired of getting beat up.... 

ANDIEZ1 CHAT 23 DEC

[rjg] AndieZ1 when u say live what does that mean exactly

[AndieZ1] rjg it means its on the screen - and from the other intel today - its being exchanged
[AndieZ1] rjg - live means exchangable


[partyrock] AndieZ1 .did johnny say what the KWD rate was on the print screen?

[AndieZ1] partyrock - no. I typed out exactly what he told me

[boomer1110] AndieZ1 - Can jonny see something different that reflects what's really at the CBI? Are there "insider screens" that might reflect what's really going on?

[AndieZ1] boomer1110 - not at the CBI - only what's going on with the banks here

[KYRV39] AndieZ1 CBI should update automatically right

[AndieZ1] KYRV39 - CBI will update whenever they want to .... I hope its soon hugs

[rjg] AndieZ1 yes thankyou, i get that. my question is wasn't the iqd suppose to go first so all the other currencies should follow, or maybe the iqd is done and not showing, what's your opinion

[AndieZ1] rjg - I haven't heard any hard and fast "rules" on what goes first or even if that's the way to comes down. I would imagine that all would be visible at the same time.... so this is very curious 

BULLDOG : "GET THE OVEN READY", 23 DEC



DEC.23,2011 3:46PM CST.

BULLDOG75

Bulldog75: GET THE OVEN READY: TIME TO SHAKE AND BAKE AT USA 440.

Bulldog75: IS THAT THE GOLDEN GOOSE I HEAR AROUND THE CORNER?

Bulldog75: THIS MAY POST IN BLOCKS OF 10-20 COUNTRIES AT A TIME. WE WAIT. MAN PROJECTS; GOD DECIDES.

Bulldog75: ONE MAYBE HEARING MANY THINGS FROM MANY DIFFERENT: SIGHTS, SOURCES, LAST MINUTE PROJECTIONS AS IN NOW, FORWARD. WE ARE AT A PRECIOUS MOMENT IN HISTORY. WE ARE A PART OF HISTORY. THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT HERE AT OOM. WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO STAY GROUNDED AND POSITIVE. THE LOCKS ARE BEING TAKEN OFF THE GATES. TYVM. I PROMISE YOU, AT THIS MOMENT NO ONE KNOWS 'THE OFFICIAL RATE/DATE' EXCEPT A SMALL COMMITTE OF 7 WHO WILL GIVE WORD. SO WE WAIT

DINAR GURUS 23 DEC


12-23-2011  Guru Mailman17    WE KNOW THE RV IS COMING AND THEY ARE NOT HIDING THE FACT…JUST THE TIME…THEY WANT 7 LIFTED AND COMPANIES TO COME IN YET THEY SHOW NOTHING THAT WOULD WARRANT EITHER…UNLESS WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING….EITHER IN PRINT OR HIDDEN…THIS VERY WELL MAY DRAG OUT PAST THE YEAR NOT OUR CHOICE AND CERTAINLY NOT SHABBIBIS.
12-23-2011  Guru TonyTNT   I plan on having hot dogs for lunch,  lol lol…the timing had to be right…things have been done and it looks like we have a good day. I want to say things are confirmed they sound like we are headed in that direction but waiting to go to the bank…what we are hearing this morning is yes the steps are taking place at the moment and everyone is excited…I am thinking it is going to be a SUPER Fantastic day! And my hints are I am having HOT DOGS for LUNCH!
12-23-2011  Guru Checkmate   I am hoping today is it…I got some very very good news today from people I trust and this is positive news no matter what happens there will be some news either way today and I want you to know that the excitement today is real and it is a huge piece of history.
12-23-2011  Guru Bulldog75   RATES ARE HIGH…COMMITTEE WILL RELEASE THAT SOON…THE HOUR AND DAY HAS BEEN PRE-ORDAINED.  WE ARE ABOUT TO GRADUATE FROM “OKIE UNIVERSITY”. DELIVERED FROM THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS TO THE “UNIVERSITY OF FORT KNOX, DEPARTMENT OF HIGHER LEARNING AND EARNINGS”
 12-23-2011  Guru Doc   IRS form 8938…The form is not new but was issued June 2010. New instructions were recently issued. According to the IRS the form was NEVER intended for those holding foreign currency. It is targeted at those with foreign assets such as stocks, bonds, partnerships, etc. Even if it is applicable to foreign currency investors you only have to file the form if your holdings exceed $50,000 (individual) and $100,000 (married) in value. In other words you would have to have currently in excess of 50 to 100 million dinar at current value for 8938 to possibly apply….we maintain this form has no significance to our investment from a timing perspective.
12-23-2011  Guru Jonnywg   we are trying to verify that kuwait just rv’d at 3.90…but there is action on the bank screens… 6 other currencies show value…it will take a couple of hrs…but i will report as it happens.
12-23-2011  Guru Freeway Bill   We are watching everything and have been all night. Word we had last night was to watch for it by early afternoon today if not before.
12-23-2011  Guru Jonnywg  I expect this to be a great information day as we are at the crossroads. HOWEVER i have in front of me the TELLER SCREENS and the CURRENCY SCREENS and there is no value on buy or sell…00.00000, this is at 2 major banks of the top 4…UST and BIS are still waitng for the final release.
12-23-2011  Guru BWM   it’s hard to be the president-elect of OPEC if you can’t be a member don’t you think…if it goes past Christmas we may have a slight issue…but don’t expect that…just timing but again, I believe by Christmas…they can RV with or without sanctions… doesn’t matter…except for their future… it’s a long process they do not want to repeat… and you could see how afraid Maliki was that NATO would pull out.
12-23-2011  Guru Breitling   The rate comes from CBI & the currency comes from Parlament, Maliki doesn’t have anything to do with this.  All these countries have dinar, China, Great Britain, not just Americans, they just can’t shut it off & screw the world & then say come to Iraq & do business – does that make sense, no, it doesn’t.  Tax code 8938 has nothing to do with the dinar you hold.  Can they RV without getting out of Chapter 7, yes they can, but they can’t get out of Chapter 7 unless they RV. I believe they are going to revalue no matter how bad their turmoil gets, a civil war will not stop it, the value of the money is still there.  I still don’t see anything holding it up.  I think value wise, they made a mistake by not doing it already.  I love that they are pumping dollars into the local economy because of the trillion or so dinar that they have taken off the streets – that should be fantastic news for you!!
12-23-2011  Guru ScottiG   The ISX has closed…until Jan 3! The timing for this is exceptional. I know numerous individuals were stating over the last couple of weeks that Currency insiders were trading with the stock market in Iraq and that they knew the rates. COME ON MAN! NO! NO! NO! There is not a valid active currency in the market place yet. They are trading speculative paper with rates all over the place and that is all. They are positioning themselves for the release. That however explains in part the need to close the ISX down. They cannot afford for their systems crash and burn from the massive activity from these Future’s order that are in place.  The Currency traders are prepositioned and ready for this to happen at any moment…now this is truth!

SOUTHERNLAWYA MORE POST 23 DEC

2:31 PM [SouthernLawya] Tony said they would be back this afternoon (they r pacific) and will have great news ....we'd be jumping up and down and hopefully this will be over....BUT it would be enough news we'd be happy!!!
2:53 PM [SouthernLawya] maliki has signed the AGREEMENT...........look

DAN & TONY POST ( PTR CALL) 23 DEC


DAN STATES – Been having a conversation about what’s going on that made us late for the call – TODAY is interesting – LOTS of things expected for today- keep eyes open and watch – we can confirm we are hearing things happening we will not say but they are positive. I hope we will get together for a call later again today…
TONY STATES I am doing absolutely ok – we will give you subtle hints about what is going on – its going to be a great day – have been on the phone over an hour already and we know you see the boards – there is a controversy about 8938 tax INFO first lets talk about that – YESTERDAY I used to work at franchise Tax board doing audits and I spent yesterday THERE sitting in an isle with auditors and I got docs from them highlighted saying everything and showing me everything –they called the IRS auditors to confirm and they state they spent the last two weeks preparing this form for the RV and its purpose… There are instructions as to WHO it applies too – 12-21 has instructions out on that date – there is a copy of the form and instructions on the site…LOOK at page 14 in the instructions and it highlights the assets foreign assets even if it does NOT have a positive value has to be recorded ad it was done in 2010 for foreign accounts was the original purpose now they are ADDING to this form with the NEW release and that’s where the assets come in – Specified Foreign Financial assets – the first sentence has been added too – those not IN a financial account will need to be reported on this form –read it and take it to your tax auditor for real.. this form was out there but updated for this RV purpose… Financial instrument Is the Dinar and any currency….DO NOT wait till January to do this form – PER TONY GO TO YOUR TAX ATTY NOW…
DAN STATES I am not a tax professional but the questions are good –you need to think about this and pay attention to tax requirements…we try to keep you doing what is right – we plan here for you to KNOW to plan for trusts – identity protection – tax info just to help you not be broke – glad this tax call yesterday got you digging… the Q & A will give you more info…
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_DAN STATES I think today is VERY important and I do not say that often – I have gotten excited before but today is very special I got VERY VERY GOOD news from people I trust and I do not know how this will turned out – but this is positive news that no matter what happens they are still working on it still this month of December – it’s the 23rd and they are working on this – this is big business – this is paying attention to get this accomplished – this is serious and it’s a HUGE plus no matter when this happens if not before the 25th but will happen right happen – WATCH FOR YOUR TEXTS FROM PTR we may see this in news from us we should share…we are excited – this is real and TONY will give it now – this might be a really really good day a huge piece of historyTONY STATES – DAN gave you all the intel so this does make it a very different day – DAN is excited – DAN gave it and all we can do is wait the day out and see what happens but I think it will be a great day – just so you know where I am TONY SAYS I PLAN ON HAVING HOT DOGS FOR LUNCH!!!

Question – What keeps pushing the deadline back =
TONY STATES no one really wants to fight or replace somebody as it may cause confusion but I think today is a perfect time to do what they wanted….looks like today will be a good day…
Question – read on board 3 step process… is that confirmed where we are at?
TONY STATES two days ago the cut off was and we heard today about the BIS and other things going on that are being leaked out to you = that is what we are seeing right at this moment and we are excited….
Question – The FORM 8938 form – there is someone that stated that its an OLD form been around for a long time and addresses currency – is this updated now that yu are referring to – TONY STATES – THIS FORM is for tax year beginning March 2010 and this is since then – this form was just update for 2011 and IRS agents went through a process to get this out now – if someone says this is not the form to use GO BACK TO YOUR TAX PERSON as this is the form to use – it was used for foreign accounts but it has been upgraded for ASSETS now –which includes currency – new reporting requirements are on this form – I read it earlier – that ANY fin acct maintained is all new – we will have to report this… new reporting requirements listed on form/instructions… you need to take another look at it..
Question – they were saying that banks might be giving a higher rate to groups above the CBI have you heard about this –
TONY STATES – how can a bank give you more than they are going to get? Lets say the CBI rate is $9 and the bank will give you $10??? For your large group?? And you come in with a billion dinar –and you say they will loose that money just to get your service? NO that does NOT make sence – you need to negotiate for the CBI rate to match the dinar brokers – but more folks in a group helps with negotiations – but they will NOT give more than what they make just to have you as a customer..
TONY STATES I Got calls all during the night about things with timelines and computers showing things and things shared its all good and we should be looking for this and its going to be a SUPER FANTASTIC DAY and I am going to have hot dogs for lunch!!
Question – what would be the reason for all this mis info that is being put out.. ie arrests….?
TONY STATES – they do not want folks to pinpoint the exact time as there are some really bad people out there that are doing things – we have given rates and dates before that was mis info as they wanted it out there as they wanted to track things that were bad and there are some out there and some things have to be controlled – so the mis info is for a reason at times – there are a lot of folks with a lot of money here in the USA who have not bought one dinar because of the mis info so this has served its purpose for real… –
Question are the ATMS running over there-
TONY STATES they are there for over a year – they were loaded back then and it was tried to go through last year but things were discovered bank level as to how bad things were – they are ready for it now – and I don’t think the smart cards would have not been issued if the ATMS were not ready for it…Baghdad and green zone is first … the cards were started loading…
Question – Different rates – is there a range and is it to the USD or GBP please….
TONY STATES – we heard it for months and EVERYONE is saying it is to the GBP due to we need to get the dollar amt without throwing the ME off and having such a great difference as Kuwait is to the USD and Iraq will be to the GBP and its doable to both economies – Dan states $3.50 and I say $7.00 and I say it COULD BE over $7 so lets say that range… THIS will turn out to be a great Christmas after all!!
Question – Steve – shares that others may be in same boat – but we are so grateful about the news – I consider myself very connected with lots of friends and church people and I only had one person come to me with this opportunity and that blows me away – realize that the ups and downs are rough but we are so blessed to be here – TONY STATES – some want dinar but will not buy their own dinar – and there are still some that are saying NO THIS IS A SCAM and still won’t buy any – or they hear it for first time and they go what? We are VERY fortunate – it’s a blessing –
TONY STATES had my kids to buy their own and they sold games and guitars to get into this as they saw the opportunity to take a chance on this… Then he went and bought more and more. Bunch of guys his age, 19 and 20 years old. Their parents didn’t buy, they did. They work at McDonald’s and they’re getting ready to have 3-7 million to their name and their parents wouldn’t listen…. some won’t and some will….
Question – GFJ2334 – if I give so much to my son do they have to report the same tax form also – if you give it to them in this year they will have to report this – do not have to report this by DEC 31st –
NO SAYS TONY – 2011 will have to report these taxes by 2012 – YOU can give dinar now before 12-31 and if he cashes out today or tomorrow they will pay tax but if you wait till Jan 2nd to give it- then YOU will pay tax on it in Jan and you will pay taxes AGAIN as they will ALSO… ALL on page 14 says does not have to have a positive value on the instrument – CURRENCY – this still has to be reported as they are trying to track all foreign currency says TONY…. BOTTOM LINE GIFT YOUR DINAR BEFORE 12-31 –
Question – what is the meetings going on today – heard Petraus there, others, can you give us any feedback?
TONY STATES – those people are over there about the RV – and things are happening over here- Question – will there be a no confidence vote about Maliki ??? –
TONY STATES – Don’t think so. Don’t think time is right. Not stable enough for that right now. Hasn’t been enough time since we left to replace him already. Know for a fact that wasn’t part of the agreement. He’ll be there for a while. Can’t see anyone removing a president the week after we left the country. Doesn’t send a good message to the rest of the world. A lot of that stuff was just mass confusion. Was a reason for it and still is. Cause we are dinarians we see this but we do not pay attention to this news with other countries – only cause we are into all details of Iraq that’s only reason its news to us
Question – After hearing everything, sounds like Santa is taking off from the North Pole early, huh? TONY STATES – that is what it sounds like I am on pens and needles right now for something to happen sounds like it will….
Question – Statement- had bombings that was bad – didn’t freak out about that – do you feel that an RV is in good timing right now –
TONY STATES people are eating good, buying clothes, cars and new homes that will cause the bad things pass away – they want to move forward. The Maliki part he has his stuff – he needs nothing else – he is OK but the people who are not experiencing this but when they get a taste of this and see the new folks coming in seeing what the western world has their mentality will changed and it will take time –they will see there is a better life and the blowing up stuff will change their whole culture will change for the better…
Question – going back to the bombings, so much instability there. I know the news you guys have received is really excellent. Will the bombings not delay it?
TONY STATES – God forbid, unless they bomb S, or A, or M himself, I don’t think so. These things happen every day here. Doesn’t stop our country from functioning. We just don’t see all the other news there.
TONY STATES – WE COULD get the info today and we will be back in touch with SOME INFO this afternoon one way or another – we will give you an update no matter what…. May be pre-recorded or put in chat just to keep you up to date. Have a very Merry Christmas. Me and Dan will be in and out to keep you guys informed
 




BULLDOG POST 23 DEC


DEC.23,2011 12:31PM CST.
BULLDOG75
Bulldog75: 12NOON CST 12-23-11. THE CURRENT GOOSE EGGS WILL SOON DISSOLVE AND TURN INTO OUR “DESTINED GOLDEN GOOSE” . THE HOUR AND DAY HAS BEEN PRE-ORDAINED. MAN PROJECTS; GOD DECIDES. OUR HEARTS REJOICE KNOWING THE IQD AND DONG ARRIVE SAFELY IN OUR HEARTS, MIND, SPIRIT AND INTO OUR BANKS ACCOUNTS. IMF, UST, BIS, WTO, CBI, UN, ALL ORGS ARE HOT N READY TO SERVE ON THE SERVORS. SHOP BUT DON’T DROP CAUSE THE RATES WILL DROP IN.
NO SWEAT, NO FRET. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE FRIVILOUS SIDE SHOWS AND NEWCOMER PREDICTIONS. LET YOUR CHRISTMAS TREE AND YOUR HEARTS LIGHT SHINE FOREVER. GOODWILL TO MANKIND WILL ARRIVE. THE TRAIN IS PULLING INTO THE STATION. THE CARGO WILL UNLOAD. WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED FOR OUR TIME HAS COME SOONER, NOT LATER. WE ARE TOTALLY POSITIVE.
Bulldog75: WAR; RATES ARE HIGH. COMMITTEE WILL RELEASE THAT SOON.
Bulldog75: YOUR TURKEY WILL COOK WELL AT 440.
Bulldog75: YOU CAN SMELL THE IQD AND TURKEY AT THE SAME TIME.
Bulldog75: CASH IN WHEN YOUR REGISTER ARRIVES UNDER THE TREE
tyroneb916: bulldog when do you think we may be cashing in?
Bulldog75: NEXT WEEK
war eagle: Pegged to dollar or pound?
Bulldog75: WAR: USD
mack357: Well BullDog Got the Plane ready for Pick Up, Ready to go too the Bank of Choice….
Bulldog75: MACK; LOVE THAT BANK OF CHOICE.
Bulldog75: THE ANGELS SING THE SOUND; MAN PROJECTS; GOD DECIDES.
cjswest: Bulldog75 and mods I know everyone likes to chat rates….. I don’t care about them and i feel the more we discuss this the more delays we will have, imo
Bulldog75: CJSWEST; YES, WE REJOICE BECAUSE OF THE LOVE AND GIFTS; NOT THE RATE.
Bulldog75: WHEN WE LOOK UNDER THE CHRISTMAS TREE: “WE SEE THE LOVE OF GIFTS”, NOT THE AMOUNT IT COST TO PUT EM THERE.
dclawson: YES BULLDOG THE TRUE REASON FOR THE SEASON
Bulldog75: DC; TYVM. TRUE.
Bulldog75: OKIE SAYS “I WOULD SACRIFICE ALL MY DINAR; IF IT MEANT EVERYONE ELSE RECEIVING THEIRS”.
Bulldog75: I WISH YOU WELL HOLIDAY MERRY CHRISTMAS TIMES. FOR THE TIME HAS COME. WE BELIEVE AND SHARE THE ULTIMATE GIFT AND THAT IS THE BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOUR. MAY OUR HEARTS BE JOYFUL. THIS WILL BE ONE OF OUR BEST CHRISTMAS TIMES EVER.
Bulldog75: WE ARE ABOUT TO GRADUATE FROM “OKIE UNIVERSITY”. DELIVERED FROM THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS TO THE “UNIVERSITY OF FORT KNOX, DEPARTMENT OF HIGHER LEARNING AND EARNINGS”
Bulldog75: I LOVE ALL OF YOU. WE ARE BLESSED AND POSITIVE.
Bulldog75: YES, THE RATES WILL POST SOON.
Bulldog75: I WILL BE CLOSE. AM NOT STRAYING FAR FROM FORT KNOX BANK.
Bulldog75: WE REMEMBER; WE LET NO MAN OR GROUP LEAD US ASTRAY. WE ARE FIRM, FOCUSED AND KNOWING OUR DESTINATION. JEREMIAH 33:3 .
Bulldog75: PLEASE HAVE ONE’S ‘BUSINESS TRUST’ SET UP THRU JIM JENKINS, IF ONE CAN. MINE IS DONE.
lexie: Trust (email for information): JIM@JIMJENKINSMUSIC.COM
Bulldog75: THE BUSINESS TRUST WILL SAVE ONE MILLIONS IN TAXES. ONE CAN PASS THIS TRUST ON FOR GENERATIONS EVER. THE OTHER OPTION IS LOOSE TO TAXES.
Bulldog75: ANYONE TAKING THIS SUGGESTION LIGHTLY; COULD LOOSE THEIR SHIRT AND HOUSE AT THE SAME TIME.
Bulldog75: TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED. THE TIME IS HERE NOW.
Bulldog75: GOD GAVE US THE POWER OF REASON AND THOUGHT. THE TIME TO ACT FOR FAMILY PROTECTION, PHYSICALLY AND FINANCIALLY IS NOW.
Bulldog75: I SHARE THIS LAST CONCERN BECAUSE I LOVE U ALL AS OKIE DOES. TAKE ACTION NOW. TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED. BLESSINGS. BBL. MERRY CHRISTMAS. LET YOU LIGHTS SHINE FOREVER AS CHRIST DOES. AMEN. BBL. TYVM. 

MAILMAN CHAT 23 DEC


mailman17 says to (09:09:14): YES…THIS SITUATION IS VERY MUCH UNREAL…. GOOD TMAC…JUST DISSAPOINTED AT IRAQS FAILURE TO MILK THE GOLDEN COW…
PEREZ..IRAQ IS NOT IN THE SAME SITUATION AS KUWAIT….WE KNOW THE RV IS COMING AND THEY ARE NOT HIDING THE FACT….JUST THE TIME
tmac096 says to (09:10:23): me too, they don’t know which tiet to grab, they keep going for the dry one.
mailman17 says to (09:11:15): WHAT GETS ME THE MOST IS THE FACT THAT THEY WANT 7 LIFTED AND COMPANIES TO COME IN YET THEY SHOW NOTHING THAT WOULD WARRANT EITHER … Read More Link on Right
 
_perez says to (09:11:42): it was china i referred to on one of their first rvs lo

mailman17 says to (09:11:53): OH…OK PEWREZ…SORRY
perez says to (09:12:29): all good lol iraq is insane
mailman17 says to (09:12:34): YES…THEY DID THAT AND EVEN TOLD THE MEDIA UP TO THE TIME THEY DID IT…BUT IT WAS SMALL POTATOES COMPARED TO WHAT IRAQ WILL BE BRINGING TO THE TABLE
UNLESS WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING….EITHER IN PRINT OR HIDDEN…THIS VERY WELL MAY DRAG OUT PAST THE YEAR NOT OUR CHOICE AND CERTAINLY NOT SHABBIBIS
supermotomike says to (09:13:47): 2012 or 2013?
mailman17 says to (09:14:13): I ESPECT THE NEXT PICTURE OF HIM TO BE BALD…CAUSE THIS MOST CERTAINLY WOULD MAKE HIM PULL THE REST OF HIS HAIR OUT 2012 SUPER…THIS WILL GET DONE…MAKE NO MISTAKE
Dinar Mark says to (09:14:50): I guess we are at the proverbial crossroads in this investment, it could go one way or the other. Like Med said, we are in the “risk” part if this investment
mailman17 says to (09:15:08): OUTSIDE INTERESTS INCLUDING COMPANIES, COUNTRIES AND THE IMF AND UN ARE PROBABLY AT THE CAMELS BACK BREAKING POINT RIGHT NOW
ALWAYS WAS A RIS MARK….BUT THE FACTS STILL TELL US A 1-1 ON PAR AND NO LOP
MARK MY WORDS….UN INTERVENTION IS IN IRAQS VERY NEAR FUTURE REAL CLOSE
tmac096 says to (09:16:46): they just dont know how to think rationally
perez says to (09:16:57): market confusion will definitely pick up the closer we get
dinarsformeandhim says to (09:16:58): Never seen a bunch of people so into bombs and killing
mailman17 says to (09:17:06): THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO THINK WITH ANY RATIONALIZATION AT ALL
Dinar Mark says to (09:17:20): Yep, if it breaks out into a full civil war dispute, thay sure will
mailman17 says to (09:17:21): BOMBS AND KILLING ARE A WAY OF LIFE THERE SAD REALLY I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ THE MOST
dinarsformeandhim says to (09:17:42): inmature really
tmac096 says to (09:17:44): there is no way any new companies are going to go in there now, exxon is probably wondering what to do.
mailman17 says to (09:17:50): HELL NO AND THEY CAN KISS CHAP 7 GOODBYE FOR QUITE A WHILE…IN FACT
DONT BE SURPRISED IF MORE SANCTIONS ARE BROUGHT BACK… AS LONG AS MALIKI IS THERE…THEY REMAIN A THREAT
tmac096 says to (09:19:02): just think of all the oil hey have been pumping for free and all the payroll they have been dolling out. what a stinkin mess.
mailman17 says to (09:19:07): YEP
Dinar Mark says to (09:19:14): Well Exxon is in with the Kurds up north, prteey stable there
mailman17 says to (09:19:18): NOTHING LIKE PISSING OF THE OIL COMPANIES BUT THEY TOO CAN BRING THIS INTO FED COURT
LAST THING IRAQ NEEDS RIGHT NOW IS MAJOR LAWSUITS
tmac096 says to (09:19:57): oh yeah especially when that is your main export and life blood of the country
mailman17 says to (09:20:05): AND THE PARIS CLUB ALSO MAY BE LOOKING AS TO WHETHER THEY MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE
dinarsformeandhim says to (09:20:12): Chapter 7 should protect them for lawsuits. Right
mailman17 says to (09:20:17): SHOULD OBAMA HOLDS THE KEY ON THAT ONE AND HES PISSED DFI PROTECTION COULD BE VERY WELL BE A THING OF THE PAST
tmac096 says to (09:20:50): just last week m was asking O for help with chp 7
mailman17 says to (09:20:59): YES THEY DID LIKE I SAID…UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING WE DONT SEE THATS GOING ON IN THE BACKROUND
TOO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED IMHO…FOR THIS TO BE A FLUKE WE ALL SEE ARTICLES OF PEOPLE HURTING THEMSELVES KNOWINGLY…ITS A DISEASE I BELIEVE…IRAQS GOT IT TENFOLD
ALL BECAUSE OF EGO I HATE YOU…YOU HATE ME
supermotomike says to (09:23:28): How does Maliki not get taken out?
mailman17 says to (09:23:36): GOOD QUESTION NOT IMPOSSIBLE THOUGH OBAMA MADE THAT CLEAR
Dinar Mark says to (09:24:04): Iraq thuns out to big the big Christmas “Grinch”
mailman17 says to (09:24:06): SADAAM, LYBIA, ECT
supermotomike says to (09:24:24): Exactly tmac096 says to (09:24:41): he thinks he is untouchable
mailman17 says to (09:24:52): SO…LIKE I SAID LAST NIGHT….SHABS STILL HOLDS THE KEY HE HAS THE BACKING NOW OF PARLIAMENT
tmac096 says to (09:25:32): so far no one has challenged him, thus he thinks a Dictator for life.
mailman17 says to (09:25:35): OF COURSE AFTER HE HAD TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO COMMITTES JUST HOW TO ADD 2 PLUS 2 AGAIN
TMAC..THE MERE FACT THATS BEING ALLOWED IS WHY I REALLY THINK UN INTERVENTION IS NOT THAT FAR OFF AND YES…
supermotomike says to (09:26:20): This definitely curbs speculators,great time to RV!
mailman17 says to (09:26:30): SCUSE THE METAPHOR…REALLY NO WAY OF PUTTING ANY OTHER WAY THERES A FEW OTHER 4 LETTER WORDS I WOULD LOVE TO USE ALSO BUT I AM MUCH MORE CALM THATN IN THE PAST
dinarsformeandhim says to (09:27:51): I think it is hilarous that the winner of the last elections is still not in controll. Whats up with that? alk4316 says to (09:28:00): RICHARD CRANIUM!
mailman17 says to (09:28:24): THE RV IS STIL ON THE TABLE PEEPS….WE AND IRAQ FOR THAT MATTER JUST GOT TO FIGURE A QUICK WAY TO CLEAR THE TABLE FOR DESSERT
tmac096 says to (09:28:25): he has had his way though out this entire process, think about it the guy losses the election and postpones the results, then he changes the rules so he can steal it and thenhe promised to have his government together in 100 days and nothing and then at CHristmas last year he promised to name the ministers and to this day nothing. He’s had his way alwyas.
mailman17 says to (09:29:00): DFORME..ANOTHER MYSTERY RIGHT UP THERE WITH BIGFOOT
dinarsformeandhim says to (09:29:38): mother of all smoke screens
mailman17 says to (09:30:19): TMAC…THE THING MALIKI MAY NOT BE THINKING OF…IS IF HE EVEN TRIES TO CIRCUMVENT THE CONSTITUTION IN HIS FAVOR DOING THAT….UN WILL COME IN AND REPLACE HIM…HE NOW BECOMES A THREAT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DICTATOR LIKE SADAAM AND GHADAFI
tmac096 says to (09:30:27): he must keep the status que, as long as it stays the same he keeps all the power and now he is gunning for DICKtator status, this was his plan all along. So far no one has stopped him, no one.
mailman17 says to (09:30:35): WHETHER THE JOB IS AN OUTSIDE JOB OR AN INSIDE JOB CIA IS GREAT AT STUFF LIKE THIS LOL
38CABO says to (09:31:45): a mailman off today
mailman17 says to (09:31:58): THE U.S. HAS TO MUCH SWEAT AND BLOOD TIED INTO THIS…THAT WILL NOT BE AN OPTION.. . here2day says to (09:31:58): we have got to have one good sniper left ove rthere
tmac096 says to (09:32:10): well they haven’t done anything yet, they are as GW Bush SAID ” nothing but a great debate society”. I was thinking musad, they really are good and know how to blend in.
mailman17 says to (09:32:18): ESPECIALLY GOING INTO THE NEXT ELECTIONHERE…. ME AND MED COULD SOLVE THIS IN A NEW YORK MINUTE’
supermotomike says to (09:33:43): I know this will work itself out. Merry Christmas everyone!
38CABO says to (09:33:45): maliki wouldnt show here2day says to (09:33:47): mailman throwing his bags off
mailman17 says to (09:34:15): I COULD VERY EASILY THROWN DOWN ON THEM…IN A HEARTBEAT AND NOT LOOSE ONE MINUTE OF SLEEP…LOL
tmac096 says to (09:34:24): parliment would postpone the meeting for an extended time frame.
mailman17 says to (09:34:26): IT WILL SUPER STAY FOCUSED MINOR SETBACK…THATS ALL JUST FRUSTRATING AS HELL
38CABO says to (09:35:05): 17 or a expected test glk says (09:35:04): members are probably afraid to show up for the meeting, Maliki will have them arrested on trumped up charges, Hi mailman
mailman17 says to (09:35:14): LOL
mailman17 says to (09:35:31): GLK…POSSIBLY
38CABO says to (09:35:47): or being bombed
mailman17 says to (09:35:54): I DONT THINK ALLAWIS GANG IS AFRAID AS MUCH AS USING THEIR ABSENCE AS A STRATEGY TO PROVE A POINT AND TO BRING ATTENTION TO MALIKI
mac096 says to (09:36:20): yeah at first I was mad at them, but now I see why they did it.
mailman17 says to (09:36:32): I AM NO FAN OF ALLAWI ANYMORE BUT ITS THE ONLY MOVE THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW
38CABO says to (09:36:46): if allawi can hang on to the kurds maliki has little chance
mailman17 says to (09:36:48): NOW BEING THE KEYWORD
jesse888 says to (09:36:53): I am a fan of mm17
mailman17 says to (09:36:54): EXACTLY TY JESSE
tmac096 says to (09:37:07): It seems to be working his alliances are leavign and people are finally talking. you know he is desperate whenh he arrests everyone
38CABO says to (09:37:25): remeber when it was said the kurds will be the king makers
glk says (09:37:17): If Allawi had gotten in as he should have, it would have aleady RV’d and we would not be here having this chat….
mailman17 says to (09:37:29): TELL THEM TO HURRY UP…LOL YES…BUT MALIKIS POWER WAS ALLOWED…FOR WHAT REASON I DONT KNOW
38CABO says to (09:38:14): great question why
mailman17 says to (09:38:22): NOT SURE
38CABO says to (09:38:38): i have pondered it many times
mailman17 says to (09:38:40): WE COULD SAY IT WAS HE WAS FRIENDLIER TO US INTERESTS? IRAN?
glk says (09:38:37): Maybe it will be in the book that comes out about the dinar ? LOL
mailman17 says to (09:39:25): IF I EVR WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THIS…YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE 18 OR OLDER TO BUY IT AND FOR SURE THEY WOULDNT ALLOW IT IN PUBLIC LIBRARIES…LOL
Dinar Mark says to (09:39:28): This is going downhill so fast and we knew it was coming, hoping this is going to level out. Will be so interesting to see how this plays out. Keep your eyes open and stay focused on the news, which seems to be streaming out by the hour.
38CABO says to (09:39:37): iran has to be on a shory leash
mailman17 says to (09:39:45): DM…DOWNHILL YES THIS WILL PLAY OUT THE RV IS NOT A QUESTION IT WILL HAPPEN
38CABO says to (09:40:10): i agree no other option
glk says (09:40:26): We made it thru the election fiasco, this will end also …. and then RV !
mailman17 says to (09:40:36): IS THERE SOME SORT OF POLITICAL OR FINANCIAL JOCKEYING GOING ON THAT WE DONT SEE?
doolittle63 says to (09:40:36): i can feel it
mailman17 says to (09:40:40): DONT KNOW
dinarsformeandhim says to (09:40:55): move forward or sink
38CABO says to (09:40:56): political with isreal and iran
mailman17 says to (09:41:19): THAT WHOLE AREA LITERALLY IS A DESPOT
mailman17 says to (09:42:22): BUT WE DO KNOW THE SMALLS ARE READY, SHABS HAS THE GREEN LIGHT, COMPANIES ALREADY HAVE CONTRACTS…
doolittle63 says to (09:42:27): yea how will you descibe that in words
mailman17 says to (09:42:44): NOW WE WAIT FOR THIS MINOR AND HOPEFULLY LAST SKIRMISH TO END
Dinar Mark says to (09:43:18): We are privledged to be witnessing world history right before our very eyes. It’s got to be exciting, especially since we have a stake in it
mailman17 says to (09:43:36): OK…GOT SOME SHOPPING TO DO….ENJOY THE DAY…AND LETS HOPE SOME GOOD NEWS CCOMES OUT THE NEXT FEW DAYS
38CABO says to (09:43:39): they can only regain there international status by returning as an ecconomic force
mailman17 says to (09:43:39): LATER GANG
mailman17 says to (09:44:00): IRAQ MAKES THE SOAP OPERAS LOOK BAD
doolittle63 says to (09:44:02): hey where you going this was fun ,…lol
38CABO says to (09:44:06): 17 merry xmas
bulldog23 says to (09:44:07): See ya later MM17
mailman17 says to (09:44:15): GOTTA GO X-MAS SHOPPING LOL
38CABO says to (09:44:17): and to everyone
glk says (09:44:18): We need a pep talk, can I post?
doolittle63 says to (09:44:32): hooo hooo hoooo MARRY CHRISTMAS
Kate5048 says to (09:44:34): later MM17 38CABO says to (09:44:37): i’ll take your check jesse888 says to (09:44:41): sure
mailman17 says to (09:44:44):
SURE GLK



SWFLORIDA POST 23 DEC


The CBI has been pumping large amounts of foreign exchange. A rise of up to $281 million. The CBI determines the exchange rate and must support that rate by maintaining adequate foreign currency reserves to handle capital flows across its borders.
The IMF permits countries with a transitional economy to implement currency controls in order to stabilize their economy during its redevelopment phase. As we all know Christine Lagarde announced a joint partnership with Iraq to reduce inflation and produce a strong Dinar. The IMF has a meeting scheduled in January and according to our sources this will be post-RV, to discuss the progess made and any additional steps or tweaks that must be taken. Banker Ghost, Capt Nemo, Just George, Ducky, Bopeep and Studley’s contacts, all agree this is a very involved process but in the works currently. Iraq’s wealth true wealth will once again be reflected by their currency and the artificial rate will soon be dropped. Exactly when it will appear publicly is anyone’s guess. Hope all my fellow Dinarians have a wonderful Christmas and Happy New Year.

SOUTHERNLAWYA & BWM POST CHAT 23 DEC

A good chat from 3sintel:
1:38 AM [SouthernLawya] We are aware the UST –they have tested the basket, coded it for the (1st) code and released it to the BIS (gets IMF confirmation from IR to give launch (2nd) code embedded with the rate)…. the BIS releases back to the UST to recoop confirmation from IR to release to all Central Banks (3rd) code
[..SweetQueen] SouthernLawya ARE WE AWAITING THE 2ND OR 3RD.
 [SouthernLawya] 3rd
[mamari4] SouthernLawya Any guess as to what time frame IYHO if they move immediately?
[SouthernLawya] mamari4 I do…and I believe the US is “expressing” great concern in IR at this moment as to why that last code is imperative to the very existance of IR
[mamari4] SouthernLawya do you mean impressing upon them that the time is NOW
[SouthernLawya] mamari4 absolutely….I really don’t think they want to lose evrything they have worked 10 yrs to build…..
[mamari4] SouthernLawya ok I just wanted to be sure I understood what you were saying… I would think that the worldly Dr. Shabibi – know ing the West as well as his own country would have a good handle on all of this…
[SouthernLawya] mamari4 I wud think so, and I wud think that the US has a pretty good idea of maliki and how to handle him if necessary….
[SouthernLawya] all opinion, but it sure makes sense to me….I can’t see Shabbs throwing away all that he has put in his 7 plus yrs their down the drain to start over …cant see them losinng WTO, OPEC membership and their country sinking at a faster rate than ours…doesn’t seem plausible to me in the least…
[BWM] SouthernLawya it’s hard to be the president-elect of OPEC if you can’t be a member don’t you think
__[SouthernLawya] and BWM is right, who wants CHINA breathing down thir neck…and do they really want the US to takeover their finances? Think we have enough issues of our own…..geez!
[SouthernLawya] BWM do you feel IR can get any extra time past the 23rd?
[BWM] SouthernLawya think if it goes past Christmas we may have a slight issue… but don’t expect that
[SouthernLawya] BWM okay…because with the Islamic New year and their budget beginning on Dec 25 (news to me) seems like we could go up to the 24th?
[BWM] SouthernLawya by Christmas… consider banks are mostly closed on Monday anyway
[BWM] 1biz4u what slight issue is it that you speak of
[1biz4u] BWM The one you might happen if it goes past Christmas
[BWM] 1biz4u no issue per se.. just timing but again, I believe by Christmas
[BWM] here’s something fun for the day… if you look at some of the “other” country news… the bombing in Iraq has hardly had a mention… but the US and Iraq blogs have really really made a point of pushing it… AHHH CIVIL WAR and such… hmmm why is that do you think
[SouthernLawya] BWM diversion……….
[ChrisB] BWM what is the status of the turnover of ministers. I am not convinced that sanctions mean anything at this point but that is just me.
[BWM] ChrisB they can RV with or without sanctions… doesn’t matter…except for their future
[BWM] ChrisB has nothing to do with hammer logic… there are things holding them to do this… it’s a long process they do not want to repeat… and you could see how afraid Maliki was that NATO would pull out

TEXASRED POST 23 DEC


texasred: O.K. folks I advised you that I would dig and see what I could find. Here it is It was suppose to happen early this morning. It had to be held up due to the Hedge fund boys were trying to get deeply involved, in the IQD. So they had to wait until the ISX closed. DO NOT give up instead look forward to this afternoon sometime, I could not find out a time , but this afternoon looks very , very promising.
11:54 AM [tdv75098] txred I want to thank you for the information you posted. It confirmed what I was recieving. I have a cousin in Dubai that was informing me and another christian friend in the 11:54 AM [tdv75098] ME that is keeping me informed.................

RUMOR ALERT : IQD RATE: $9.41, 23 DEC

RUMOR ALERT! Found posted by ~nk (BSP)… this is one of those fun rumors we wish were true …V
[debneureka] Exciting news…yes second hand but trusted info. My cousin who has been in this for 5 years has a guy her husband got invested. This guy has a friend who’s company owns 150 million dinar. The company received a call this morning from JP Morgan Chase bank. They told them to come 1pm rate $9.41! We are very excited

HISTORIAN CHAT 23 DEC

Historian] I heard some interesting stuff over the last week.
[Historian] It has to do with the stuff I’ve been talking and posting about in the last month — my theory that we’re changing from fiat currencies to asset-backed ones.
[Historian] Well, it’s no secret amongst the global finance crowd (those who invest seriously on a global basis) — word is that 4 of the BRICS are going to switch over to using a new reserve currency (Brazil, Russia, India, China). Right now, they just negotiate their exchange with each other directly — they do not use the USD.
Historian] It is anticipated that other countries will be able to use that reserve as well. So how long are any fiat currencies going to last after that? They’d better RV to new rates that are asset-backed.
[Historian] I’m hearing that the new reserve is anticipated in the earlier part of the year rather than the later part. IMO, that timing is good for us.
[Historian] Other related news heard on mainstream TV — the business channel showed a chart comparing developed nations to emerging nations, and how much they consume. Developed nations are rapidly dropping and emerging nations are rapidly rising. In 2012, the emerging nations will consume more than 50% globally.
[Historian] That supports the theory that they have enough economic power to shift the financial model of currencies from fiat to asset-backed. This is good for us. IMO, it provides more support to the theory that those 130+ currencies are going to asset-backed rates.
[Historian] So IMO this timeline for the new reserve for the BRICS will come in AFTER an RV. And I will bet that a lot of those emerging economies will use that new reserve.

[bluedog] Historian sounds very feasible at this point wow a year ago we would have not look at this in this way at all

[Historian] All this means that the timing of the RV is good. It cannot go much longer. And IMO they would be wiser to get it done in 2011 so they start a new financial year with all the new currency rates.