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Tuesday, December 6, 2011

BGG CHAT : RVD IN BAGHDAD..TS ALL OVER 6 DEC

[BGG] [generals64] Here is a question I ask to you guys...you ask me something all the time and I try to answer you so..."Here Goes"....One of your best friends..calls from outta nowhere and says he just got a call from Baghdad and was told it had RV'd there...It's all over the country...then, your Cousin calls and say basically the same thing....So, would you come in and post it and believe it or forget it>>>>?????Answer me please...this is what happened yesterday morning at about this time of the day....No Contacts no gurus...Close Friend that talked to his sister and a Cousin that is a captain in the intelligence corp for the ARMY…

[BGG] P.S. The General is highly credible as well. Right, wrong or indifferent...very credible. I will wait to see how that one works out.

[BGG] As I told the General - if it comes from anyone else - I am very skeptical. If it comes from him - I will give it more credence. We wait and see.

[rileyjones] Tony is talking about Poppy 3

[BGG] rileyjones - What's he saying??

[rileyjones] BGG He said that Poppy3's date is right on

[rileyjones] BGG Poppy3 has posted a date somewhere and so he is using his dates or before
[[rileyjones] BGG He is telling everyone again to look at Poppys message for today
[BGG] kyletx - Now I really do appreciate that

PTR CALL POST 6 DEC

Call notes from Rana's posts at PTR Forum - Thank you

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Tony – we are going to have a few mins of entertainment and some Q&A afterwards and information at the end.

Everything that I told you last night I still believe today, things were done and signed, received several calls about docs signed and Ch 7 lifted. They had meetings about CH 7 being lifted. You don’t see everything; they might be coming back this evening or tomorrow to have a vote. There was a programed scheduled yesterday in DC, of all the ppl we had yesterday in DC they came here to sign certain things. There are very few things that are left undone. This morning was more political than personal.

This is what the call I did with the MODS: They are waiting to see the RV to do the Ch 7 or waiting to do the Ch 7 to do the RV so that Iraq won’t have to pay to make sure their debt is gone.
I like poppe3, I do talk to him, he gave you a key date, I don’t think it will not go until then. Even if it didn’t happen this morning, could you wait 4 more days for it to show?
There is not a lot of info.

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Caller 1 (missy5) – I need some hope, you’re feeling really confident and really good of this week and what poppe said?

Tony – I feel really really good because of the people I am talking to, there is info that I can’t say, I wish I could say, agreements made and docs signed, minister OK, HCL OK, everyone is waiting for this this and this. They aren’t going to show you one at a time they will show it all at once
When the UN went in this morning I expected them to do a vote, I was surprised they didn’t. It’s not going to 2012, look at poppes date.

Caller 2 (toratora) – I need info about the Dong
Tony – I’m still hear .05, I believe it will RV at the same time
Look at the history of the last 5-6 RV, there is a pattern; if you follow the pattern you can make a lot of money

Tony – 10k dinar is = to 50k USD

Caller 3 (Dinardiva) – You said awhile back that in 30 days you will be cashing out, what did you mean?

Tony – at the end of 30days of the RV I will no longer own 1 dinar

Caller 3 – is there some other currency or metals after RV that is stable?

Tony – I would look at other currency, I will be doing Libya, there is always the Yen, and it will be the biggest upside. Asia is the next market, they are trying to change it in the next 5 years

Caller 3 – Any news about the banks being the only place to cash out?

Tony – that is not true, Dan might do a call this afternoon, I spoke with Ty and Frank, there are some concerns but don’t be scared I will let Dan explain. Don’t be scared to go to DB, that is not the concern

Caller 4 (PTRangel) – no question

Caller 5 – (flyingtooth) things at the UN Meeting that have to end, where are we going to see it

Tony – you will hear about it on the boards 1st we have enough ppl on the inside, you will hear about it before the bank screens

Caller 5 – Ch 7 release

RV has to happen before CH 7 has to be released, it has to be at least equal to the USD (It said the doc)

Caller 6 –(JDB) I just want to make a statement, Geithner, you butt is writing checks that it can cash…

Tony – things didn’t come out today but you might hear about it tonight or tomorrow, money is NOT coming from the federal reserves, where is the money coming from?

Caller 7 – (SPM0601) – they are saying on boards and chat at in TX at the 1st convenience bank that their screens are 000000. They are saying Iraq is 130 degrees from what they were in Saddam days. Did you hear anything about bank screen showing 00000?

Tony – Comment on the Dan thing, Dan is doing everything he can that the info is right as best as possible and trying to keep people ground because we know there are some ppl hurting. Dan is in a good place he believes it’s about to happen, he just doesn’t want to give min by min. To your question Yes.

Caller 7 – Do you think the immunity about the service ppl is the delay?

Tony – No, that has been done

Caller 8 (sumil) – Did the Iran sanctions have anything to do with the RV?

Tony – No

Caller 8 – confirmations about in country RV’s?

Tony – I got it because of the contractor got paid a week ago for only in country spending and only for work. I received that prices are being change at RV rates, I got that from high level military sources.

Caller 8 – meeting Dec 7-8, RV of many currencies?

Tony - Sounds if it says RV then I guess so. The meeting ends Thursday so things should be finalized

Caller 8 - Do you have confirmation of that the confirmation has happened in Iraq

Tony – that’s my confirmation and we will see it, it’s on the way. I believe it

Caller 9 (Didn’t get screen name) Since we were not supposed to know about the RV as the laws changed about owning 1 mil USD

Tony – it’s the Dodes/Franks act and its’ 10 mil

Caller 9 – has Maliki signed the declarations?

Rana - (sorry I was interrupted by a call I didn’t get the answer)

Last caller
Caller 10 (footDoc) – 50k USD or 50K GBP?

Tony – Are you asking about the 10k IQD? I heard before to the GBP, last night and today

Caller 10 – how do we protect ourselves? Are you going to have different accounts?

Tony – I plan on using the big 4 having multiple accounts and insured by Lloyds of London above the banks. I know for a fact that banks will lay off ppl. Banks have shut done because of the recession, by the 1st qt of next year banks will lay off a lot of ppl. Take care of your money.

Because of a lot of counterfeit dinars you will have to have some documentation before cashing in.

Call is over
PTR

TONY POST 6 DEC

Tony in chat on PTR Tue at Noon posted by Rana 12/06/2011


_I know most of you expected to see the RV this morning, after the UN meeting. Just because you haven’t seen it does not mean that you will not.
The one thing that you guys should be excited about and understand is that you did not see a vote taken.
Why is that…
Believe me when I tell you that the information received yesterday and this morning is the information that you have been waiting to hear.

Ok just so everyone knows, we will be doing a call today, after the Presidents speech

BULLDOG POST 6 DEC

_Bulldog75: ENGINE, ENGINE #9: COMIN' DOWN THE RAILROAD LINE: FOUR QUICK REASONS FOR 'ACTIVATION' HOLD: 1. EURO CRISIS TO BE SOLVED 2. UST TAXES TO BE SOLVED 3. UN SANCTIONS / PROTOCOL /CH.7 REMOVAL 4. ELITE / BIG BOYS / MARKET CONDITIONS. LEAN BACK AND RELAX. NO SWEAT, NO FRET. ENGINE #9 IS COMIN' DOWN OUR RAILROAD LINE AND SHE WILL NOT GET OFF IN BALTIMORE. KNOW WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED. OUR IQD GIFTS ARRIVE NOW. WE WILL PROBABLY SEE THE 'RATE ACTIVATION' JUST PRIOR TO CH. 7 SANCTION RELEASE. BELIEVE, KNOW & TRUST DIVINE INTERVENTION IS HERE. AMEN.

Bulldog75: THAT'S THE OL ROGER MILLER SONG FROM 'ENGINE ENGINE #9" . VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS MORNING. THE TRAIN WILL NOT STOP IN BALTIMORE, IF U ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SONG. 'THE IQD TRAIN IS A COMIN'. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

Bulldog75: CLARIFICATION: NOT ALL OF THE ABOVE FOUR MENTIONED CONDITIONAL HOLDUPS HAVE TO BE RESOLVED FOR THE "IQD ACTIVATION' TO TAKE PLACE. THOSE ARE SIMPLY A COMBINED SUMMATION THAT HAVE AN AFFECT. WE CAN STILL HAVE AN 'ACTIVATION RATE' AT ANY HOUR/MINUTE DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES. TYVM.

SOONERFAN POST 6 DEC

soonerfan] [TS] (soonerfan) Ok, TS has ask me to repost my post from this afternoon from memory: For all the newbys on here that don know me My only intel provider is in DC and has actually worked on the revaluation of the IQD. Cap1 and a couple of others even know I have this guy. [soonerfan] He has never been on a chat and I NEVER call him, he calls me. I heard from him yesterday and he told me we would have an RV this week @ $5.86 USD FOR SURE. So there it is, take it or leave it.

LOJAK POST 6 DEC

c1432: lojak-do you agree with poppy and tony…10th..deadline 15th
[lojak] c1432 at this point, my contacts would be on the much sooner side of things–I will keep you posted if they change their mind
[lojak] Zeus that is one persons opinion. The thing you all need to understand is that one persons intel doesn not translate to anothers. Just because Poppy says it doesnt make it so–or just because BWm says it doesn t make it so either.
We all hear things, try and verify big time and then express it to you. Much of what we share is run by others ( I talk alot to Jonny for example) so that we keep the duplicity out of the equation.So to respond to your question…I have not heard the same thing that Poppy is saying FYI. That doesnt make me right–but nothing in the intel world is an absolute. _ [lojak] Zeus ANd thank you for listening. Just fyi–what I am told (lol) about the meetings today is that everything went great and like was said last night eveything is done and complete. JMO–if that changes, I will let you know…
[lojak] whynot who said we are waiting on Iraq–well we are in a sense that they apparently want to announce things together at one time. But at this point, unless i have wrong information, we are not really waiting on anything really–maybe a few little details…does that help at all?
[puttright] lojak do you agree with striperfish today thinking we are still a couple weeks away or maybe into 2012 [lojak] puttright no not at all
[lojak] mort I forgot when was your international attorney’s rv day..today or tomorrow?? [mort] lojak -he said the rate is just waiitng to be dropped in the cbi-but i will call him tomorrow to get an update
[lojak] QF1 One final point to consider–they snuck Maliki outof the country early brought him to NY and have had meetings with the PTB and the UN for 2-3 days. Is all this for, see ya in 3 months. ?? just sayin

PAPAJACK & LOJAK POST 6 DEC

[dessybug] tntdinar: Believe me when I tell you that the information received yesterday and this morning is the information that you have been waiting to hear.
[jaybird] Tex] Well My good friend went to 1st Convience Bank to open an account, cause I told him that is where I bought my IQD and they will cash it in for no fee. While he was there he made sure they would take his IQD as he didn’t buy it from them….. the teller said sure and turned his screen around and showed him a rate of $5.71 and said it would be constant after midnight…… tonight..
[aussiesue] Real Deal Iraq will RV first then pay kuwait what they owe them then they are out of chapter 7 it was my understanding that one of issue s was get the RV done.
PaPaJack1952] It sure looks like today is going to be our day for sure info is sounding Better and Better as the day goes on [lojak] Ok–just got an update –we are exactly where we were yesterday–just waiting on activation. Most will still speak in “tongues” as contrary to my bud BWM, we have been asked not to share details. It’s all good–really. SO as they say on planes, just sit back, relax and enjoy the flight
[NJTXFL] Prospernow divinegrace jillybean mamari4 – and the UN just has to make sure that it looks like a totally unbiased and impartial process even if we know it’s something else altogether – boy do I wish things were as simple and basic as they seemed to be when I was a little kid
[skysthelimit] PaPaJack1952 I just left Wells Fargo and the guy didnt even blink when I said IQD..he took my name and number and said he wud call with any info! He asked how much I had and I said “enuff” how u like that?
[PaPaJack1952] I think we are waiting for all the Banks to close
[draavmorris2] another,good,bank,story,…..just,talked,the,the,asst,mgr,at,my,bank,and,told,them,what,i,wanted,to,do,and,would,that,be,a,problem,they,said,no,we,are,here,to,help,you.i,told,them,i,wanted,to,give,them,a,heads,up.and,she,said,thank,you.
[PaPaJack1952] it is now getting real real close if what I’m hearing is true I can’t what it is till we know for sure this is true time to get Excited real Excited if true
[joyious2] draavmorris2 WF finally admitted to my dad yesterday that he would be able to go straight to the cashier when the IQD bacame a tradeable currency. I haven’t gotten the same from my chase bank yet though
[patC] Capt Crunch I believe it is – the guys that got on this ride got a call from a man that he got into it over seven years ago last Saturday night. The guy got his brother in law in it as well both over 7 years ago. The BL called the guy out of the blue and told him he would cashing in by Thursday this week!! The BL works for the FBI and has for a long time.!!!!

FREEWAY BILL POST 6 DEC

FREEWAY BILL POSTED: There is no issues, so UNITED WE STAND! ~ FREEWAY BILL
There is no need for any more post on chatroom issues and there certainly is no more need for any more CC for same. UNITED WE STAND! We are a family of people trying to get through this and stay sane. We are all trying to help eachother and somehow emotions take over and people start getting upset over nothing. Intel will not be given freely right now as there is no more to say. The Chapter 7 issue is resolved and will be announced. It cannot be announced prior to an RV. That is it folks! Anything else is purely a waste of your time. Take that time in prayer and getting prepared for this blessing.
I offer you my undivided attention at anytime. You can message me and leave your phone number and I will call you given time. My time on chat will be to socialize with our members. I WILL answer questions if asked, but staying in accordance with Dan’s rules. I respect Dan, Tony, Gary and the Mods…. this has been a tough ride. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU

KAPERONI CHAT 6 DEC

aperoni: Today’s chat is… “The Truth and Reality of the Iraqi Government – Part 4″ kaperoni: This chat will be an outline of the causes, reasons, and solutions for the delays pertaining to the revaluation of the New Iraqi Dinar. Today we will focus on “Surprise! Iraq is afraid” as it pertains to the pending revaluation. kaperoni: Though it may not be the “promise” you want to hear, it outlines the ineptness and bureaucracy that Parliament and the Government have played in the delay in the revaluation of the New Iraqi Dinar.
kaperoni: Let’s get started…
kaperoni: We will see today that the GOI and Parliament have been ineffective in taking the next step…the move to a free market economy. The activation of all aspects including the laws to move Iraq forward. First article…
kaperoni: Economic: cannot abandon the importation of goods from abroad as a result of the absence of domestic production – Wednesday, 30-11-2011
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “Al-shammari said: there are many laws initiated by the Chamber of Deputies has not been applied and that drain to serve the industrial sector than forward and make the economy a strong economy based on the large and dynamic economic sectors.”
kaperoni: This was the beginning…we will see subsequent articles follow now…Next article…
kaperoni: Parliamentary political parties accused of not activating the economic laws – Wed, 11/30/2011
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “Accused the parliamentary political parties did not identify disabled some important economic laws that previously prescribed by the House of Representatives.”
kaperoni: And this one…
kaperoni: “And called on Member of the economy and investment MP Abdul-Hussein Resan to the necessity of activating the laws that serve the national economy, government, accusing political parties not to activate it.”
kaperoni: We see Parliament has been back from vacation for 10 days at this point. Very little accomplished. I think 6 of the possible 90 or so laws have been passed. Not good. Another quote…
kaperoni: “He’s Resan Agency (news): a need to activate all laws beneficial to the national economy initiated by the House of Representatives in the previous session as one customs tariff and consumer protection law and the protection of the domestic product for the advancement of the national economy.”
kaperoni: Another quote…
kaperoni: “He Resan: There are political parties and government stands behind the lack of activation of these important laws of the national economy, noting that a standardization and quality control is still suffering the non-application of these laws being in conflict with their work.”
kaperoni: And one more from this article…
kaperoni: “He added, if the activation of these laws will be the only way for the recovery of the Iraqi economy in terms of local industry to activate and control the border and reduce the import of goods not conforming to the specifications of the fact that Iraq today has a market for goods as a result of the absence of bad laws.”
kaperoni: This is good to see them call out these people. Everyone knows that this all goes hand-in-hand with the monetary policies of the CBI. So they are pushing. And it appears from the frequency of the articles, they are pushing hard to get some results. Next article…
kaperoni: Parliament: the Iraqi economy is uncertain and needs to policy-making of the new – 27/11/2011
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “Iraq’s economy is still not clearly defined “Is it an economy or market as a result of confusion of his policy,” noting that the Federal Government is still working laws inclusiveness that operate in the former regime. “
kaperoni: This is telling. It clearly states that many of the economic laws are outdated…dating back to pre-war timeframe. These laws need to get updated and passed by parliament to open up the free-market economy, which will support the policies and exchange rate of the dinar. Another quote…
kaperoni: “And called Friday: to form a joint committee between the economic ministries such as the Ministry of Planning and Finance and Trade to draw economic policy of the country and to develop visions of the future has in order to promote it and develop it. “
kaperoni: All right, maybe a good idea! Since the GOI and Parliament are ineffective, lets get some help!
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: ..”noting that we have the Deputy Prime Minister for Economic Affairs and the Ministries of economic do not know the direction of the Iraqi economy to where?”
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “stressing: the need develop visions of future economic of the country. and between a member of the Economic Commission representative: that any strategic plan draws to its economy will succeed the result of what Iraq possessed of the elements of great economic of all sectors, calling for: the need to promote agricultural and industrial production for the development of the Iraqi economy from a unilateral to a multi-faceted.”
kaperoni: These two quotes are great. They call out the Deputy Prime Minister for Economic Affairs, and Minister of Economic…telling them they have no direction. This is more supportive to then get outside help.
kaperoni: Next article….
kaperoni: Khuzaie calls to provide the appropriate atmosphere for the advancement of the agricultural sector – Thursday, 01 December 2011
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “The statement quoted Khuzaie say that “the Iraqi economy needs support from all sectors of economic, industrial, agricultural and tourism can not be the adoption of the oil alone is a source of national income as it seeks the Iraqi government through the agricultural initiative to improve the agricultural situation in the country.”
kaperoni: That pretty much sums it up. It is clear, concise and tells you what we have been saying all along is the reason for the delays in the RV. All of this plays a part. No one part alone is going to work, and with all pieces together, only then will there be success.
kaperoni: One more piece as well…quote…
kaperoni: “The Khuzaie “support for all the demands of farmers that will return the public benefit to the agricultural sector, pointing to the need to provide the atmosphere”
kaperoni: Next article…
kaperoni: Conference to examine the economic development and evaluation of joints laws attractive for investment – 03/12/2011
kaperoni: Quote..
kaperoni: “The Centre has begun to embrace the idea of organizing a major economic Conference,”
kaperoni: Ok, so last weekend there seemed to be pow-wow of sorts. To resolve these delays and provide confidence to more forward with the economic reforms.
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “The solution in referring to invite international companies from Europe and America and regional States to attend alongside the Iraqi private sector on different disciplines and sit at the round tables will be negotiated on a joint cooperation between the two sides drafted to work in the country during the coming period, “
kaperoni: Great idea. You cannot seem to figure it out Iraq, get some help with this. So it appears they have decided to ask for help from all sides, global companies, the US, UK, and Arab states. I think this meeting needed to take place. It now appears that they agree… help is needed.
kaperoni: Another quote…
kaperoni: “He noted that the Centre based on the preparation of national strategic plan of work prepared by the Government of the country and the development of economic sectors, expecting it to be real breakthrough towards 2012 construction and economic development,”
kaperoni: There is motivation for sure. The benefits are huge for Iraq. No time to waste.
kaperoni: Next article…
kaperoni: Economist calls for House on the need to enact economic laws – Date: Tuesday, 06-12-2011
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “Economist Nabil called Shaukat need special trip aimed at enhancing economic laws that serve the general interest of the Iraqi people and meet their aspirations for development of the country’s economic structure.”
kaperoni: Pretty clear. Once again, they are asking Parliament to do its job…. Pass the laws.
kaperoni: One more quote from this article…
kaperoni: “Tuesday: that the Iraqi Government enacted various laws, while they ignore the economic laws that have great importance in the service of the Iraqi people. He noted: there are several laws still on the “shelf”
kaperoni: It truly does not get any better than this. Clear and to the point. Parliament is holding up the economic reforms, the transition to a free market economy, the improvement in conditions for the Iraqi people and the RV of the dinar.
kaperoni: Next article…
kaperoni: Parliamentarian: engaging the private sector had become necessary in the country’s investment process – Monday, 05-12-2011
kaperoni: Quote..
kaperoni: “Baghdad radio said in a statement to a reporter (News Agency news) Monday: it is necessary to activate the private sector and participation in the investment process for the country to take part in the process of building and reconstruction of the country, through support to small and medium-sized enterprises and delivered to the Iraqi private sector.”
kaperoni: And this is a comment from a member of Parliament? Maybe they are getting the point?
kaperoni: Next article…
kaperoni: Analyst: Iraqi economy continues to flounder and needs to organize – 05-12-2011
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “He stressed that the Federal Government to develop a new economic order in accordance with scientifically accurate that develops strategic bases from which to build the Iraqi economy and its evolution, saying: to keep abreast of modern global economic development in order to improve the local economy and rehabilitation”
kaperoni: This is good. It is again saying…You are not able, so get the help you need. Let’s get a move on this. And another quote…
kaperoni: “Economic analyst invited to take advantage of Iraqi minds abroad and built through economies of many States in the world, in addition to the use of foreign expertise and the organizations of the United Nations that its primary role development of underdeveloped economies.”
kaperoni: This analyst is telling them as well, no more time to waste. Use the world stage to get this done. Use the experts, to help us. This is very good news, IMO, to help these people get “over the hump” to sort of speak.
kaperoni: The title of tonight’s chat comes from this article…
kaperoni: Baghdad is afraid of “failure” in 2012, Anjazmoisna – 05/12/2011
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “The head of the investment in the province of Baghdad, a specific al-Kazimi, told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) today, said that “the province of Baghdad does not have the ability to exchange Trelawny dinars during the budget year 2012 because it did not accomplish a thing of the budget in 2011 but spent on projects that are not a development”
kaperoni: More confirmation from a member of the GOI..Al-Kazimi. He states clearly that Baghdad does not have the ability to run an investment budget for the year 2012, when they did not accomplish anything during 2011 pertaining to development. Pretty telling information.
kaperoni: So today, it looks like we find the solution to our problem. Keep in mind when reading these next quotes…the World Bank has a huge interest in the success of Iraq. They have funded these rehabilitation projects and need to see them through to the success to be paid back. The World Bank has loans for healthcare, water supply projects, electricity, the CBI banking reforms, roads, sanitation, education and many more. The World Bank cannot afford to watch this fail.
kaperoni: Here is the next article…
kaperoni: Businessmen Union: The World Bank will adopt a new organization for the development of the Iraqi private sector – On: Tue 12/06/2011
kaperoni: So here comes the Calvary. The solution to the delays, the incompetence of the GOI and Parliament. Quote…
kaperoni: “Baghdad (news) .. announced the International Federation of Iraqi businessmen that the IMF adopt a new organization for the development of the Iraqi private sector and put through the economic policy of the country.”
kaperoni: Wow! Whatever you want to call it. Their job is to…” put through the economic policy of the country.”
kaperoni: Lets get the details of how this is going to work…Quote…
kaperoni: “Tuesday: the International Monetary Fund will adopt a new organization sponsoring the Iraqi economy through the development of its private sector and the development of the economic policy of the country,”
kaperoni: So we see the IMF is going to take the lead. Coincidence? Ha doubt it. It looks to me that they will hand over the day to day activities to the World Bank who is already in Iraq. Makes sense. Effective and ready to get it done.
kaperoni: Next quote…
kaperoni: “This will be done in agreement with the Iraqi government as a result of the government’s inability to draw a clear economic policy.”
kaperoni: That sums it up. You could not get it done, so we will!
kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “this organization will call on all international economic organizations and local communities to develop an economic policy based on the basis of correct and accurate,”
kaperoni: More details to the plan. How they will accomplish this on behalf of Iraq. Will this delay the RV, only time will tell if the lack of abilities in the GOI and Parliament will affect the overall economic reforms.
kaperoni: Another quote…
kaperoni: “The main objective of the adoption of this organization is to energize the private sector and engage with the public sector in the investment process and the reconstruction of the country,”
kaperoni: I like this. Anytime they use the word “energize” in Iraq it is a good thing. LOL
kaperoni: And this last quote…
kaperoni: “it will put the Iraqi economy, the general line and on the march,”
kaperoni: Yes, time is a wasting. Get them on the march! Left, Right, Left…lol The next few weeks will be telling to see if this new organization can get Parliament and the GOI to get the laws written, reviewed and passed as needed. For sure, the CBI is waiting for all this to be in place. Let’s hope they are successful.
kaperoni: One last thing, don’t waste ur money on dinar this month in hopes of a RV in December. Pumpers are pushing hard for your money calling the RV every single day. This information clearly states otherwise. It may RV in December, but chances are greater for sometime in 2012.
kaperoni: Done

DINAR GURUS 6 DEC

12-6-2011 Guru Poppy3 The final documentation from the parliment councel on iraq chapter 7 will be delivered to the un on dec 10th this. Timing of the rv from there forward will change to imminent instead of all this speculation. The final chapters are being written. I expect if all is signed that has now been agreed upon the rv will be soon. It is still questional what is included in the documents that will be delivered. I still stand on now to the 15th unless something changes drastically .
12-6-2011 Guru Hammerman the banks have ordered money 3 different times and they have had to send it back, this is the fourth time and it is not a free service for them…the rate could show any second, all is done…so the delay is getting the cash distributed to the banks and local selected branches…it could be 2 or 3 days either way…they will not order the money until the rate is live so we wait for the rate to go live…the rate is showing at some banks like posted yesterday…but not published rate.
12-6-2011 Guru Jonnywg should be soon and all happy results from speeches, we are getting close, everything is in place…The UN speech tells how much IRAQ has prospered and how little is left.
12-6-2011 Guru Lojak 2 more…sources have reported in that they are looking for this to be over very soon – and these are not just your average contacts…just wait a little bit for it to show.
12-6-2011 Guru Freeway Bill Intel will not be given freely right now as there is no more to say. The Chapter 7 issue is resolved and will be announced. It cannot be announced prior to an RV. That is it folks!
2-6-2011 Guru Poppy3 We are still standing that things are moving forward and iraq has been and are being told they things they must accomplish before they are released and we are sure they want to get them done. They are trying to hold the world hostage to have leverage to get out of chapter 7 without full filling their requirement. Not going to happen. If they signed anything then we will see the rv sooner than later.
12-6-11 Guru TonyTNT I know most of you expected to see the RV this morning, after the UN meeting. Just because you haven’t seen it does not mean that you will not. The one thing that you guys should be excited about and understand is that you did not see a vote taken. Why is that…Believe me when I tell you that the information received yesterday and this morning is the information that you have been waiting to hear.
12-6-2011 Guru Poppy3 they can’t have international trade without the rv this same restriction keeps them from being full members of the wto.
12-6-2011 Guru Bluwolf our prayers have been answered and will be seen within hours (literally).
12-6-2011 Guru Lojak I know its been a bumpy ride…and I wish I could say more…the folks that give us the intel–they/we will get in big trouble–but I am releived this morning after hearing some details about the last 48 hours…no auction cause the CBI is closed for a holiday…We/I will let you know when to get discouraged. Now is not that time…today or tomorrow look great
12-6-2011 Guru BGG Iraq WILL NOT be released from CH 7 sanctions today…but that doesn’t mean there won’t be a currency revalue in the near future…this recent clip of the UN report – was good news. They told Iraq to get the things done on the list of long-overdue CH 7 exit requirements. One of these requirements is a “tradeable currency”. They have to correctly revalue their currency before they will be allowed out of CH 7.
12-6-2011 Guru Eagle Has Landed the last piece of the Ch VII puzzle is the Iraq/Kuwait issue….the report on Iraq/Kuwait is due to be filed at the UN no later than Saturday, Dec 10th.…chances are the report will be handed in today at the hearing and then at the conclusion of the hearing a quick vote and then Houston, The Eagle Has Landed!
12-6-2011 Guru Poppy3 I GOT A TEXT…SAYING THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD FAST…THEY SAID MANY OF THE STATEMENTS MADE…ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE FACTUAL BUT THAT THE RV RATE IS NOT SHOWING YET. VERY INTERESTING AND PROMISSING…I AM WAITING ON CALLS FROM IRAQ
12-6-2011 Guru Lojak we are exactly where we were yesterday–just waiting on activation…we have been asked not to share details. It’s all good…SO as they say on planes, just sit back, relax and enjoy the flight.
12-6-2011 Guru Mailman17 YOUR GONNA SEE A LOT COME DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS, DAY BY DAY, LEADING UP TO FINAL TROOP WITHDRAWL AND IRAQ FINALLY GETTING THE CHANCE TO STAND ON THEIR OWN. THIS WILL UNFOLD LIKE WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD, INFRASTRUCTURE WILL NOT WAIT, COUNTRIES WILL NOT WAIT, ITS TIME. THE DINAR CLOCK IS TRULY TICKING ITS LOUDEST, JUST LISTEN FOR WHEN IT STOPS.
12-6-2011 Guru Jonnywg we are truly in the final countdown. We have been advised that the UN will make an announcement today re currency. We expect a rate change to show on forex and the bank screens, we expect announcements from the White House – we expect a lot. However, we are grounded knowing that there have been delays in the past…I will continue to post verified facts today as the calls come in.
12-6-2011 Guru Med I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A HOLD UP…DID WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE THAT IT WAS SUPPOSE TO RV…THERE IS NO HOLD UP, NO TIME LIMIT …NOTHING HAS GONE WRONG, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS IMPATIENCE AND NOT BY THEM. THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT IS FIGHTING FOR IT’S IDENTITY AND HAS ALLOT OF PROBLEMS…REMEMBER ALL THE FACTS OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON…I DONT NEED A DAILY “IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN” ARTICLE. I WATCH WHAT SHABIBI SAYS NOBODY ELSE, IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH GO TO THE SOURCE. THIS RV IS NOT MOST LIKELY GOING TO COME WHEN MOST PEOPLE NEED IT TO SAVE THEM, IT WILL COME TO GIVE THEM A NEW START.

TONY CAL PTR 6 DEC

Listening to 5pm call with Tony, here is a brief synopsis:Tony still believes all the info he gave last night, meaning everything is done, signed, still getting calls about documents signed, chapter 7 being lifted–know you didn’t see the vote taken, but that is what you wanted to see; and they discussed old information we all already knew. Sometimes you don’t see everything you weren’t meant to see, because just maybe they are coming back this evening/tomorrow to vote. Programs changed yesterday with all the ppl here from diff countries to finalize things with signatures. Out of all issues, this morning was more political than personal. From call with our Advisory Board this morning: Suppose they were waiting to see rv to do Chapt.7, or vice versa? Suppose Iraq said we aren’t going to do this (rv) until you release us, or vice versa?. Still excellent news–some after the u.n., some this morning, and I really like Poppy3′s update dates. They are close (he later answered somebody’s question and said one of those dates is the right date) My (Tony’s) intel says that date is KEY date, and I can say that cause Poppy put it out.
When I watched the u.n., I expected a vote, but it could be done in an hour–or tonight–maybe they reinforced it one more time–but you can believe that WE ARE THERE–it is NOT going into 2012, and I give Poppy credit for the date. lol Still hearing 5 cents on the dong. Asia is the next market, and you can always put some of your profits in the dong or one of the Asian nations, as they are the next market over the next 5 years.
Iraq, Kuwait, Ministers, HCL, all are ok. If they show you every step they are doing, it would lead you right to it, but I believe they are doing what they need to and will release it all at once. (HA!! That’s one for me, as I’ve said this for months!! woot! I’m up there with Lawman from the U.K. now! lol)
I know the RV has to take place BEFORE chapter 7 can be released. They have to revalue at least to the USD to be released. That was on the UN site, but it has been taken down, and I believe everything is going to happen at the same time.
If you start looking at the last 5, 6, 7 rv’s, you will see there is a pattern, and if you follow that patternb, you still will have opportunity to make more .$$..all that stuff this morning was mainly for show, because we are there!

One of the questions, Tony clarified that the DODD/FRANK act was written saying for banks to sell you any future currencies as an investment, you will need to have 10M in net worth, and that because the IQD was established 10 years ago, they cannot stop you from exchanging even if you have less than 1M net value in IQD.
He also reiterated that he has always heard it would be linked to GBP, and still believes that as he has not heard differently. He plans on having multiple accounts with the big 4 banks, and insuring all accounts with Lloyd’s of London.
We are still going to go through some other stuff next year, and he knows for a fact banks are planning on laying off ppl. Plus he remembers when GWB said there would be no ripple effect from bail outs, but seeing banks starting to shut down in the midst of foreclosure, he knew we had a problem. We will see some major banks that are planning major layoffs first quarter of next year. When you start laying those ppl off, it effects Starbuck’s, McDonald’s, etc. because there will be a ripple effect. Get your money, take care of it, PTR will still be there for members, but they are shutting off membership as soon as it rv’s. They will do what they can to help walk you through taking care of your money. Know what your next 10 things are to do, which you should have already done.
Frank did say because of a lot of fraudulent dinar and dealers, there will be documentation required to exchange with DB. If you have given it to somebody, they will need a copy of your receipt where you purchased it.
Tony said enjoy the rest of your day, and he is still looking for additional information! C’MON RV!!!!
Here is the latest from Poppy3 – 1:15pm 12-06-2011
[poppy3] Ok guys here is a solid update. The final documentation from the parliament council on iraq chapter 7 will be delivered to the un on dec 10th this. Finally something that adds up and makes some since. Timing of the rv from there forward will change to imminent instead of all this speculation. The final chapters are being written. I expect if all is signed that has now been agreed upon the rv will be soon. It is still questionable what is included in the documents that will be delivered. Guys be patient and quit trying to make something out of nothing. Poppy3 bgg make a note of this for the call. I still stand on now to the 15th unless something changes drastically . Poppy3

BANK STORY $5.71 RATE

Posted Today, 01:29 PM
[b]Tex] Here is my bank story..... I haven't been posting on chat since Thursday evening because I made a vow to not type on this chat until the RV.... Here I am... My good friend just called leaving the 1st Convience Bank in Dallas where the teller turned his screen around and showed him $5.71 rate for the IQD and then it flashed back to 00.0000 the teller said it would be the constant rate by Midnight tonight... "

PTR POST 6 DEC

Well….Last night excitement was in the air. Morning brings more “waiting, watching and wondering” Sorry I’m late-son missed the bus and I was “plan B” for getting him to school. There is still a lot to be optimistic about. Could V , velofemme33 and the others who had Dan, Tonys and the UN schedule-bring it over to this thread? Really good stuff and I know many people would miss it on the last thread. So lets see what the day brings. We have to be “close as a bandaid to your skin” to quote Okie!!! MIG chat this morning: BOBGETZ6 As I stated last night, based on one of my contacts information of the comings and goings of Shabibi, Malliki, his finance minister, and the Kurd contention, I believe this is done. They arrived earlier than expected and actually followed Biden back to DC to work things out.
The big hangup was the immunity for our troops in Iraq.
They did not want to give it and we said no lifting of chapter 7 without it.
Shabaibi wanted the rv and the release of 7 but we again said no without the immunity.
I think we got what we wanted and it is all done.
[BOBGETZ6] Sunnyg123 War crimes or anything to do with the security we provide. Complicated. [ [BOBGETZ6] The Iraqis can hold the release of the rv for up to 72 hours. When that actually originated time wise, I do not know. They don’t have to do that, but it is possible. They might just wait maybe 48 hours, who knows?
[BOBGETZ6] Precious Just my opinion, but I think that the chapter 7 will be worked out behind closed doors and may not be announced to the world, just in a closed door assembly meeting. If the clock starts this morning during the meeting, then we know a time frame.
[Precious] I think they have to announce something about how EU is saved..don’t lknow how they will do it
BOBGETZ6] Precious I think the EU being save does not affect the rv time clock. I think that announcement is a political football on the world stage.

POPPY POST 6 DEC

poppy3] We are still standing that things are moving forward and iraq has been and are being told they things they must accomplis before they are released and we are sure they want to get them done. They are trying to hold the world hostage to have leverage to get out of chapter 7 without full filling their requirement. Not going to happen. If they signed anything then we will see the rv sooner than later just hang in and rest assured many people are monotoring and will let you know when the facts arrive. Poppy3
[poppy3] topofthemountain true and guys everyone shold be paying close attention to what we have been doing financially for the last couple weeks. We have promised to give the euro a bailout of a trillion dollars. And just yesterday biden told turkey we will help with bail outs there. Lo,lol,lol yet they turn around and tell the american public we are broke. Like i have tried to tell everyone for over a year the math says the usa will take in somewhere around 55 trillion dollars over the next very few years after the rv. Lol,lol don’t let our lieing politicians scare you they know it is coming and are already spending it right in front of your eye’s wake up friends pay attention. Poppy3 [poppy3] rileyjones told everyone yesterday when they where posting that report it is old and out dated post with new date ?????????
[poppy3] topofthemountain Phantom guys the facts are right in front of all of us and i can’t understand why people arnt paying attention and listen to evry tom dick and harry and don’t read and learn for themselves. The political machine is in motion and being wide open and just rubbing it in the publics face and i am sure behind close door laughing about how gullable the public has become. Poppy3
[poppy3] rileyjones you think those old articles are killing you it make the researcher have he**ll trying to get through it and people just constantly reposting them everywhere. Poppy3

poppy3] Got to run you can repost all of these everywhere iif you like. Poppy3

THE GET TEAM POST 6 DEC

aussiesue] I am in Australia I listened to the UN call. I actually think he was telling them to hurry up and RV .He mentioned chapter 7 twice.He said Iraq needed to fulfill their obligations and pay Kuwait back.Also I have read on Dinar recaps that rates and things have been seen in Australia NOT true.In fact the banks are very negative towards the Dinar here we get all of our info from the same sites as you guys.I am feeling everyone’s frustration,but did anyone really expect them to talk RV that would have been way to telling. I believe something is brewing I can feel it in my water. Just like to say thanks to Jonny for kindly putting together those bank packages for Australia. I don’t know if he ever sleeps.I watch this space often but I don.t often post I know most of you guys names and love to listen/see your posts thanks to everyone that lifts me up when I feel down .Love you all XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX from your Aussie girl. [PaPaJack1952] people we are in the last steps of this Ride sit Back and enjoy the Ride we will arrive very very soon
[CAP1] Believer -What you heard was part of the formality of the process. Many things are done behind the scenes that we will, of course, never be (privy) to. 11:14 AM [CAP1] As I states last night, in order for Chapter 7 to be lifted, Iraq must have an internationally , tradeable currency…..which means the RV has to take place prior to this. 11:15 AM [CAP1] joyful12 – We should see activity at the banks, forex, and CBI sometime today. 11:15 AM [CAP1] S&L – Possibly. If you guys are looking for a formal announcement that Iraq has “RV’d”, you’re not going to hear one. 11:18 AM [CAP1] Guys, I have to be on the road this morning for about three hours. I will be back on around 2:00 PM. have a great day and have patience. We have had multiple confirmations of Chapter 7 being released last night.
(iv) after the balance sheets have been cleaned up, revalue the remaining foreign currency denominated balance sheet items
[BWM] Remember nothing we do can speed this along… and while there are some that spend every waking moment trying to predict this and be the very first to call it… you’ll find that many sites are working together to try to unearth information and quietly keep ppl grounded..
[sunny] I have a dinar group I send info/updates too. This just in from a Houston member: “my friend just called to tell me that a mega dinar “whale” was called by his bank and told that he could come into the bank after 3 pm for cash out”
[LoveJoy] Notes from the UN meeting this morning at 10 am EST ::::::::::Remember that Iraq is a YOUNG country and it’s future is in the children youth and women!!!! Iraq is completed and ready to host ARAB summit in March of next year!!! They must VOTE after these reports!!!!! Iraq is laying out their arment as to WHY they think they are ready Iraq is committed to solving problems with Kuwait!!! Iraq is fulfilling the resolutions laid out by United Nations Council Laying out reason FOR sanctions and why Iraq has fulfilled Dec 3 2011 —- report sent to UN council —- Addressing camp Ahsarf Implemented by end of year —- resolved issues of camp Ahsarf!! He is thanking UN council for all the support up till now…. He is thanking UN council for all the support up till now….

BGG CHAT 6 DEC

10:35 AM [LISALOU50] listening.. so what are we wanting to hear today? 10:35 AM [DOUBLE B] release of chapter 7 10:36 AM [LISALOU50] i thought thast was already done! 10:36 AM [H-Spot] LISALOU50 not full release 10:36 AM [DOUBLE B] PARTIAL 10:36 AM [A.Q] EVERYTHING FOR FREEDOM AND CONTROL OF THIER COUNTRY I BELEIVE WE WILL NOT HEAR LIVE THE RELEASE BUT I COULD BE WRONG 10:36 AM [H-Spot] just like last year when we thought rv because they had a GOI…when in fact, they didn’t have a full goi 10:36 AM [LISALOU50] so if its released then we get rv? 10:36 AM [DOUBLE B] A.Q I agree 10:37 AM [A.Q] YES LISALOU 10:37 AM [BGG] Iraq WILL NOT be released from CH 7 sanctions today…but that doesn’t mean there won’t be a currency revalue in the near future. In fact, in light of all my previous comments this recent clip of the UN report – was good news. They told Iraq to get the things done on the list of long-overdue CH 7 exit requirements. One of these requirements is a “tradeable currency”. They have to correctly revalue their currency before they will be allowed out of CH 7. No doubt. This is typcial Iraqi mind-set…they want out of CH 7 and they don’t understand why they have to actaully DO the things required of them. They are putting considerable pressure on the US and others to get out of CH 7 early – but without doing ALL the things they are required to – in order to satisfy the CH 7 sanctions. ,, Read More Link on Right
10:38 AM [H-Spot] BGG do you feel that the revalue of their currency will be the last thing they will do? 10:39 AM [BGG] However, this just highlights the ignorance of the recent “intel providers” of late. They are getting everyone pumped up by “over emphasizing” small pieces of information…some of which is just made-up cr@p. 10:41 AM [BGG] H-Spot – No – I do not. It will not be last. It will be done at some point PRIOR TO CH 7. Ch7 will be dealt with later. Exactly what they are saying… 10:41 AM [H-Spot] BGG hope you’re right, glad to see your view 10:41 AM [BGG] H-Spot – Don’t worry – don’t hope. I’m right. 10:42 AM [H-Spot] that’s what I like to hear 10:42 AM [A.Q] AGREE BGG ALWAYS SAID THAT 10:43 AM [H-Spot] So troop removal was just one of the measures to achieve ch7 removal, correct? 10:43 AM [H-Spot] sounds like the rest may be internal? 10:43 AM [A.Q] CORRECT SORT OF IT WAS WHAT IRAQ WANTED FIRST AS WELL 10:43 AM [A.Q] ALL US OUT OF IRAQ………… 10:43 AM [H-Spot] A.Q are the rest of the stipulations internal? 10:43 AM [A.Q] YES AS WITH MANY COUNTRIES WITH SOME SANCTIONS ON THEM
10:44 AM [templejc] The guy speaking seems to be making his case regarding to many of the issues – sounds very positive – is that what you all are hearing. 10:44 AM [H-Spot] templejc I like his tone bettter than the previous guy 10:45 AM [A.Q] YES TEMPLEJC HE MUST GO OVER IT ALL EACH TIME GOING BACK TO LAST MEETINGS AND TELLING WHAT IS NOW DONE IN CONCLUSION TO THAT LAST MEETING’ 10:46 AM [templejc] H-Spot ::: The guy speaking now – is emotionally connectted – it is his country – the pride of all that they have down is being communicated very well IMO. 10:46 AM [H-Spot] A.Q so was the first guy who spoke just putting his requests on the table, and this guy speaking now addressing his requests? 10:46 AM [H-Spot] templejc yea 10:46 AM [RickeyT] A.Q I wonder, will Iraq tell the U.N. that they could not get to everything because of all the hoildays? 10:46 AM [A.Q] YES FIRST GUY INTRODUCING WHAT UN IS LOOKING FOR 10:47 AM [A.Q] RICKEY NO WAY…………. 10:47 AM [H-Spot] RickeyT which holiday(s) out of the 160 are we talking about now 10:47 AM [A.Q] THEY EITHER DO WHAT WAS EXPECTED OR WILL REMAIN IN FINANCIAL CONTROL BY US

10:47 AM [pet3] What happens after the speeches? Vote?? 10:47 AM [A.Q] CLOSED MEETING 10:48 AM [A.Q] THIS IS WHERE FINAL DECISION AND THE RV WE HOPE WILL BE IN PLACE I AM NOT SAYING IT WILL HAPPEN TODAY BUT……..A VERY GOOD PLACE DEPENDING ON UN DECISION AND ANY STIPULATIONS 10:48 AM [templejc] Talking about the relocation now of those folk in that camp – just said he does not want anyone to go back to Iran. He said that he wants them to make their own decision 10:49 AM [A.Q] THAT WAS TO APPEASE US IMHO
11:16 AM [CCC] A.Q … I didn’t hear of words containing war repartions, but i thought i heard from the 1st guy that iraq and kuwait are working together and progress was being made. 11:18 AM [topofthemountain] CCC heard same 11:18 AM [kyletx] topofthemountain right…it is complicated…and we can’t really see any of the details.
[A.Q.] correct CCC………….therefore can they RV now and then when M gets here on 12th full release possible…………….they must rv first or in tandem with or release a week or two after,,,,,,mho

BLUWOLF POST 6 DEC

kennysfx] gm bluwolf great to see you this morning [msjeta1] jmo,I think that with something as important as this RV, nothing will be said in public and those meetings that would involve voting or whatever,. approval would all be behind closed doors. we won’t hear about it [[Agent 007] good morning bluwolf [bluwolf] Ms correct [msjeta1] bluwolf GM and thank you I still choose to believe that things are falling into place the way they have to to get this done [bluwolf] The outcome will simply be your cashing in [msjeta1] Bluwolf hope that your day is going well [bluwolf] O yes it is [bluwolf] Ms our prayers have been answered and will be seen within hours (literally) and with that I will let you go, bye now bluwolf] Agent 007 expect my call today [bluwolf] Jejeje you will be surprised and guess what at my rates

EAGLE HAS LANDED AND LOJAK 6 DEC

Eagle Has Landed] the last piece of the Ch VII puzzle is the Iraq/Kuwait issue….the report on Iraq/Kuwait is due to be filed at the UN no later than Saturday, Dec 10th….chances are the report will be handed in today at the hearing and then at the conclusion of the hearing a quick vote and then Houston, The Eagle Has Landed!
[Eagle Has Landed] Jorel….I am of the opinion that the Iraq/Kuwait report is already filed with the UN….it had to be filed BY the 10th not on the 10th….yes, I agree with jonny that it is finished
[duesie] Eagle Has Landed basically a foramality and perhaps rubber stamped process today
[lojak] i almost wish most of you had not watched this –it only messes with your head
[lojak] Yes, I know its been abumpy ride..and I wish I could say more–but I am releived this morning after hearing some details about teh last 48 hours…..yeeeee hawwwwww
[lojak] alibi the folks that give us teh intel–we are so close that they/we will get in big trouble
_ [foundbetter] lojak so what do we look for today as in activation timeframe? locations? what? [lojak] foundbetter PPM today or tomorrow look great
[dreambig] lojak okay, that is what I thought you meant. I hope when this is all over with, that the intel guys will tell us the all the details. Inquisitive minds want to know. lojak] dreambig dont blame ya I wish I could tell ya
[drizz] ~ according to BWM and Jonny – the sanctions can’t be released BEFORE the activation of the RV

AJ'S INTEL 6 DEC

Here we are at the cross roads of some things that are pretty important to Iraq. July 28th, 2011 the UN announced the Sovereignty of Iraq, but Iraq did not feel they were completely sovereign, as the American flag was still flying over the country. Joe Biden solved that problem in the last days while in Iraq and now we see Iraq's flag over the country.

There are meetings going on with many dignataries around the world here in America, including one with President Obama and Maliki, what are they talking about and what are they signing? Some say it's the final sign off of the Declaration of War, could be, but we do not know for sure? Watch the news from here and Iraq and we should know.

There is a UNAMI meeting scheduled at the UN today, what is this about, some say full release from UN sanctions? I am very hopeful of this and if true the cross roads are at the finish line. Again either watch the live feed of that meeting or wait for the news to come out, this will let us know for sure what is taking place in that meeting.

War is a complicated thing and it takes time. The down grading of a countries currency is only one part of that complicated matter and may be the last thing they get to before the country gets back on their feet again.

I like many others in this currency exchange is wanting it done for whatever reasons, but it is not up to us, as we are the small potatoes here. The intel providers only tell us what they are hearing at the time they hear it, its not a lie, it is what they are hearing, so take that as you will, It's not going to speed things up.

I am very hopeful that we are at the end of this currency exchange and I think it should be done by the 20th of this month, if not, we are into next year possibly because of the Christmas Season and everybody going on their holiday vacation here in America. That would put us into January of 2012. But if America needs the taxes for this year, I do not see that happening. The financial system needs this to be done, as it was war that created most of our financial problems even in the Euro Zone and other Allies.

The Wise Gentle Investor would watch the news coming out after all these meetings and watch the CBI for an update. If the RV does not take place this month, the Wise Gentle Investor would go about his/her business and wait until it happens. I, as a Wise Gentle Investor, have treated this currency exchange as long term, meaning it would take at least more than a year and up to 5 years since the currency exchange took place. The Wise Gentle Investor would not buy anymore IQD, including reserves as he/she should already be content with his/her holdings. God Bless you all and have a great MERRY CHRISTMAS. AJ

RAY UPDATE BY STEVEI 6 DEC

_Greetings Peoples Dinar Members. On behalf of Ray and his family, my wife and I, we all wish you a very safe upcoming Christmas Holiday.

This concept or event really never crossed my mind until Ray called me with this from his contact in Iraq.

What happens when one Iraqi loans another Iraqi money. They really do not have much to loan, or a bank loaning money. Not sure much of that is going on, but I found this to be exceptionally interesting. I totally forgot about this part if this in-country investment.

To me, if you think about this, is very telling and pretty interesting as to why now would they bring this up. I can only imagine or guess why. If this was not about to happen, why make a big deal about it.

Anyway, here is Ray's update for us:

Steve,
I just got off the phone with one of my Iraqi friends and he gave me this bit of information that I found very interesting. He said an article came out in a newspaper over there that they call the laborers newspaper. The article was from the Chief of Courts.

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_In it, the people were being told that if they had any dealings with other people such as loans or contracts, that they had to decide “right now” how these loans or contracts were to be handled after the dinar revalues. He was saying that if you loaned someone 1000 usd, then you were to be paid back 1000 usd. If it was yen, it had to be paid back in yen. Euros to euros, dinar to dinar(same value). He stated that he did not want the courts filled up with a bunch of lawsuits after the revalue of dinar. He wanted the people of Iraq to have this sorted before the revalue and it wanted it done now.

I especially liked the part about having it done “now”. It was like an urgency to do it now. I feel this is another indication that the RV is right around the corner. This is something I never would have thought of, but now it makes sense. Will send more as I get it. Have a blessed day and take of that ankle.

Blessings,

Ray

Please just live each day to its fullest and let this happen. My wife and I pray for each and every one of you members daily asking that you all can stay strong as this very complex investment comes to an end blessing us way beyond our imaginations.

Merry Christmas to all.

Blessings from your family to yours,

Steve & Marion

BULLDOG CHAT 6 DEC

DEC. 6, 2011 – 12:50AM CST.
BULLDOG75
Bulldog75: OUR TRAIN IS COMIN’ AROUND THE BEND & WE SEE IT. MERRY CHRISTMAS EARLY.
Bulldog75: THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS. SOMETIMES FROM THE DISTANCE, THOSE BIG TRAINS ARE DIFFICULT TO GAGE THE MPH. IS IT GOING 25 OR 55? THAT’S HOW THEY SNEAK UPON THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS AND DRIVERS. THIS TRAIN IS AT TIMES THE SAME WAY. ITS COMIN’ SLOWLY AT TIMES, BUT SURELY ITS MOVIN’ IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BIDEN WAS MOVING AT 55 MPH LAST WEEK. WE ARE GONNA GET TO OUR DESTINATION VERY SOON. THERE’S UNITED NATIONS ACTIVITY TOMORROW. OUR ‘ACTIVATION’ HAS BEEN A ‘TRAIN A COMIN’ WORK IN PROGRESS SINCE THE ‘IN-COUNTRY IRAQ RV AT 3.75′ SOMEWHERE NEAR NOV.20. THE ACTIVATION IS COMING AND WORKING ITS WAY WITH THE TRAIN PULLING INTO THE STATION SOON DEPENDING ON ITS MPH. BUT WE KNOW IT’S COMING AND MOVIN’ IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION DOWN THE RIGHT TRACK. NO ONE KNOWS THE RATE OR DATE. THAT’S WHERE WE ARE. MAN PROJECTS; GOD DECIDES. NUFF SAID.
Bulldog75: WE EXTEND A HELLO TO ALL THE OTHERS WHO PHONE IN AND ARE PROB AT OUR OLD SITE. THANKS CAP1 FOR DOING A SPLENDID JOB THERE. WE LOVE U GUYS. TYVM.
Q & A
#1.)Dev: Bulldog75: thank you for your time brother. Is there validity that the rate is being ‘dropped into the system’ currently. And, are we at a place of no return? thank you God bless
Bulldog75: DEV; ANSWER: THAT RATE MIGHT BE DROPPED INTO THE SYSTEM ANY MINUTE/HOUR. THE TRAIN MIGHT SPEED UP ANY HOUR AND DROP SHIPMENT.
2.)sambass: What do we know for sure about the chapter 7 being lifted?
Bulldog75: SAMBASS: DEVELOPING STORY; PROB TOMORROW ANNOUNCEMENT DOCUMENTED. TRAIN RE-FUEL.
#3.)perry h: Bulldog: I have seen postings of un-offical rates posted, around $5.71, Have you seen any screens or intel from sources of a unofficial rate? thanks
Bulldog75: PERRY. ANSWER: SMOKE SCREENS GALORE ON DATE/RATE. WE OOM, ARE FAIR AND CONSERVATIVE. EVERYONE’S OPINION IS UNOFFICIAL ON RATE/DATE. MAN PROJECTS; GOD DECIDES. WE GOT GOOD FEELINGS ABOUT USA OVENS AT 440 TEMPERATURE. AND 747S HAVE BEEN REPORTED FLYIN HIGH IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
#4.)Barnie: BULLDOG – What comes first: the chicken or the egg? My Bible tells me God created animals not eggs. So, the RV or Release from Chapter 7 Sanctions; which comes first? Rates, Announcement, signing agreements?
Bulldog75: BARNIE; HEY BUDDIE BARNIE: ANSWER: CART OR HORSE ALSO SITUATION. THEY ARE BOTH REQUIREMENTS. THEY SHOULD BOTH FOLLOW ONE ANOTHER LIKE DOMINOS, IMHO.
#5.)kdw: BULLDOG 55 MINUS 25 =30 PLUS 3.75 =33.75 THERE’S THAT 33 AGAIN
Bulldog75: KDW; I KNEW U WOULD SEE THAT. GOOD EYE!
#6.)Toldyaso: Is there anything we can do tonight ? What should be our plan of action ? IE cash small – amount how and then ???
Bulldog75: TOLDYASO; HEY GUY! ANSWER: IF ONE NEEDS CASH IMMEDIATELY; CASH THAT 25,000 NOTE FOR CASH FLOW FIRST DAY. THERE ARE APPROX 3 SCENARIOS THAT CAN DEVELOP. THIS ALL DEPENDS ON THE INITIAL RATE POST ACTIVATION. IF ITS LOW LESS THAN $3 THEN HOLD. IF ITS $3-4 CASH IN SOME FOR EMERGENCIES. IF ITS ABOVE 440, DO A PERCENTAGE CASH IN INITIALLY AROUND 20%; THEN HOLD AND STAY ON SIDELINES FOR A FEW DAYS. TYVM.
#7.)finance 1: bulldog do you think this will before Christmas .. i work for chase and they think next year…
Bulldog75: FINANCE1: ANSWER: CHRISTMAS COMES VERY EARLY. REASONS. 1. EURO CRISIS 2. UST TAXES ON GAINS 3. BIG BOYS, ELITE, WHALES VOUCHERS
#.8)perry h: Bulldog: Thank you, Okie, and the entire OOM team for your continued dedication to all of us. We truely appreciate it. You will never be forgotten! (post RV) promise!
Bulldog75: PERRY H: ANSWER: THANKS. HOPE THAT INCLUDES PECAN PIE.
Bulldog75: OK. THANKS. OKIE AND I LUV U ALL. ON PHONE WITH OKIE TWICE TODAY. WE ARE BLESSED WITH OKIE BEING OUR LEADER. HE GOT THE WORD FIRST AND WE PASSED IT ON. WE ARE GOOD AND GREEN TO GO. BBL. LUV U ALL. THANKS.

#9.TWOSCOOPS: Thank you bulldog75, is the VND still riding on our train?
Bulldog75: TWOSCOOOS: VND ON TRAIN AT THE 5 AND DIME STORE!
Toldyaso: What an amazing group of people ? Funny how people gravitate to birds of a feather. TY so much Bulldog for all your hard work. Crazy to think it is all for just good will. Most people don`t work that hard for money.
Bulldog75: TOLDYASO; ANSWER; DID YOU SEE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS REPORT. I JUST GOT A ONE MILLION ‘DINAR’ RAISE. POST RV. Bulldog75: LOL Toldyaso: LOL I forgot so true Bulldog

kenb: Bulldog….Thanks for flying that 747 all day! Looks like you are on the ILS and passing the middle marker almost on the threshold!
Bulldog75: KENB: 747 NEEDS RE-FUELING IN MID AIR.
johnnyjunk: Bulldog75 thanks brother !
Bulldog75: JOHNNYJUNK; MY BRO. MR. RESOURCE. THANKS A MIL.!
#10.)plucas: SO you all are saying that if this is at 7 or 8 I should cash it all in , even before the end of the year???? Just rethinking my plan for some reason…..
Bulldog75: PLUCAS; EXCELLENT QUESTION. ANSWER: USE THE 80/20 RULE. IF ITS A SUPER RATE AND YOU REALLY WANT ALL THE GUSTO AT ONCE, ONLY DO 80%. YOU WILL SLEEP BETTER. THAT OTHER 20% COULD DOUBLE IN A YEAR. IRAQ IS NOW THE ‘PARADISE HOTEL’ WITH 3-4 TIMES THE WEALTH THOUGHT ORIGINALLY . …..AND NOT IN JUST OIL. WE ARE TALKING: GOLD, SILVER, MINERALS, DIAMONDS AND OIL!!! YOUR DINAR COULD REASONABLY DOUBLE IN ONE YEAR. THAT’S A 50/50 SHOT BUT WHO KNOWS? THE USA MAY NOT BE THE CURRENCY RESERVE MUCH LONGER THAN A YEAR ALSO. WHAT ABOUT YUAN? WORLD CIRCUMSTANCES? NO MORE THAN 80% SO YOU CAN KEEP SOME ‘RESERVE’ IF MAJOR UPTREND. NOT ALL EGGS INTO ONE BASKET BEST BET, IMHO.
plucas: AWESOME advise Bulldog. You are right, I would sleep better. Hind sight is a bummer….. Have dinar will follow advise…..
DrRod: Bulldog, we are blessed and highly favored. We all thank you sir for your continued love, support and guidance through this maze of information. Our Lord has bless us in many ways and you SIR are one of HIS special blessings to us.
Bulldog75: DR ROD; WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS THE THANKS THAT WE HERE AT OOM GIVE TO YOUR CONTINUING SUPPORT AND WISDOM. THE HONOR IS MINE SIR. THANK YOU!
Barnie: BULLDOG, we REALLY appreciate you. TY
#11.)perry h: Bulldog: when do you sleep?
Bulldog75: BARNIE: U ARE A WELCOME ADDITION. REFRESHING. TYVM.
Bulldog75: PERRY H.; ANSWER: SLEEP? SOMEHOW THAT NOUN HAS ESCAPED MY DICTIONARY LATELY. MORE LIKE ‘SNOOZE ALARM”
johnnyjunk: Bulldog75 Please do give Okie our Love and Regards … and tell him we miss him too!
Bulldog75: JOHNNY: OKIE IS A TOTAL HONORABLE MAN OF WISDOM. WE HONOR SIR OKIE. AMEN
plucas: Planning on taking off a few hours early to do that $25,000 Dinar. Do you have any idea what day I could ask for in advance and get at least the second day of the RV…. just trying…
Bulldog75: PLUCAS; YOU ARE OK EITHER WAY. EITHER DAY(S).
Bulldog75: HAVE A BLESSED NIGHT. THANKS TO U ALL. BBL IF THERE’S A MAJOR UPDATE.
Bulldog75: UNITED NATIONS TOMORROW MORNING 10AM EST, NEW YORK, NY…… PLEASE SEE LINK: http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/index.html
perry h: Bulldog: what a journey thus far, and you have been the conductor. I have no doubt you will be happy when piloting a 747 rather than a train Get some rest
Bulldog75: PERRY H; GOOD ADVICE. GONNA TAKE IT. TYVM./
12.) ~*~Heart~*~: do you think they are going to lower the gains tax?
Bulldog75: HEART; I FEEL THEY WILL STICK WITH THE 15% OVERALL CAUSE TIER 2 CONGRESSMAN/SENATORS HAVE A TRUCKLOAD OF IQD AND VND. Bulldog75: PERRY H: ANSWER: I HAVE AN AFTERNOON APPOINTMENT ON TUES WITH DR SHABS. WILL SEE IF HE POSTPONES OR KEEPS HIS WORD TO MEET (AT THE 19TH HOLE!
Bulldog75: NUFF SAID. DONE. THANKS. LUV EACH OF YOU. THANKS A DINAR MILLION. BEST WISHES. GN. AMEN.

MED CHAT 6 DEC

Med says to (01:12:31): OK BACK ( 1:30 am Eastern 12-
hoperv says to (01:15:08): Hey med – hope you have recovered from you difficult day and glad your safe
Med says to (01:15:25): CERTAINLY I AM AND TY
hoperv says to (01:16:42): It seems like they are ready to make some serious progress in Iraq now.
Med says to (01:16:52): YES
hoperv says to (01:17:00): hope it is soon
Med says to (01:17:08): THAT IS WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING EARLIER
hoperv says to (01:18:21): I must have missed your dicussion, but as soon as they are back in session I think they are sweating to get things done.
Med says to (01:22:55): SOME ARE
hoperv says to (01:24:13): good to see Maliki is losing support and Allawi coming back into the fold
Med says to (01:25:06): HERE IS THE ONE PROBLEM THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE ALLAWI HAD MALIKI ON THE ROPES AND THEN MALIKI CAME OUT LIKE HE CONCEDED
THEN THEY WOULD SAY OK LETS MEET TO SETTLE THEN THE ARGUMENTS WOULD START BOTH WOULD WALK AWAY ONE THE WINNER THAT WAS MALIKI CUZ ALL HE WANTED WAS THEM TO WALK OUT
THEN HE DID THE SAME THING AGAIN AND THE SAME SCENARIO KEPT WORKING … Read More Link on Right

_hoperv says to (01:27:25): do you think they will put up with the fighting again and not hold Maliki accountable this time for all his lies and promises, 100 day plan etc
Med says to (01:28:08): IT WILL TAKE AN ENTIRE CONCERTED EFFORT\ TO REMOVE HIM AND DO NOT THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT A REMOVAL BY PARLIAMENT WILL WORK THEY CAN DO IT BUT HE STILL CONTROLS THE MILITARY
hoperv says to (01:29:11): does not the UN and US control him
Med says to (01:29:51): NOONE EVER CONTROLLED HIM
hoperv says to (01:30:52): that true, because he has only threaten never taken action, they may if he acts?
Med says to (01:31:27):HE THREATENED ONCE AND THE US THREATENED BACK
hoperv says to (01:32:51): so I have a question, do you believe the US leaving has been the hold up, waiting until we are gone?
Med says to (01:33:20): THE HOLD UP FOR WHAT
hoperv says to (01:33:36): the revalue of the dinar
Med says to (01:33:49): I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A HOLD UP
hoperv says to (01:33:55): ?
Med says to (01:33:59): DID WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE THAT IT WAS SUPPOSE TO RV
hoperv says to (01:34:41): Shabs has stated he wanted in done in 10 days in June, or I’m wrong am I
Med says to (01:36:23): SORRY GOT BOOTED YES YOU ARE WRONG
hoperv says to (01:36:30): It seems they are continually stalling, making excuses and the like, to avoid closure in most important laws
Med says to (01:36:3 OK FIRST OFF THAT IS ONLY SOMETHING THAT IS IN YOUR MIND AND OTHERS BECAUSE WE WANT IT DONE THERE IS NO HOLD UP NO TIME LIMIT
NOTHING HAS GONE WRONG THE ONLY PROBLEM IS IMPATIENCE AND NOT BY THEM I WANT ALLOT OF THINGS DONE BUT IT JUST DOESNT WORK THAT WAY THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT IS FIGHTING FOR IT’S IDENTITY AND HAS ALLOT OF PROBLEMS
hoperv says to (01:38:35): it does seem that we are definitely at a different place now verses last year at this time
Med says to (01:38:36): BUT AT THE SAME TIME OF COURSE WE ARE THEY HADNT EVEN DRAFTED IT YET IT HAS BEEN GONE THROUGH THE COUNCIL OF MIN. AND PARLIAMENT TWICE
hoperv says to (01:40:18): what is the news about it the printing going through the council of ministers again, it that recycling articles or is that the final approval?
Med says to (01:41:37): I DONT KNOW ME I PUT IT OUT OF MY MIND AS SOON AS I READ IT WHY CUZ I REMEMBER ALL THE FACTS OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON AND I DONT NEED A DAILY IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ARTICLE
LIKE I SAID I WATCH WHAT SHABIBI SAYS NOBODY ELSE LIKE THE SAY IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH GO TO THE SOURCE
hoperv says to (01:44:36): everything seems to run together lately
Med says to (01:44:44): LIKE WHAT hoperv says to (01:45:13): all the dropping the zero, in session or not , on vactiona or not, etc laws passed, not passed : we never said that – just confusing as to reality
Med says to (01:46:32): OK HMMMM FIRST DROPPING THE ZERO IT HAS NOT CHANGED THEY ARE RAISING THE ZERO’S TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE DINAR AND TO REDUCE LIQUIDITY THAT IS YOUR ANSWER TO THAT ? NEXT THEY ARE NOT IN SESSION
hoperv says to (01:47:51): agreed
Med says to (01:47:53): WHY hoperv says to (01:48:01): 10 days off
Med says to (01:48:03):NO I AM NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO AGREE LET ME TALK OK
hoperv says to (01:48:13): ok
Med says to (01:48:15): CUZ YOU SAID YOU WERE CONFUSED I AM GOING TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT WHAT I AM SAYING ARE THE FACTS
IN SESSION NO THEY ARE ON A RELIGIOUS BREAK THAT IS MANDATED BY THE CONSTITUTIONS
NOW COULD THEY SAY NO OF COURSE THEY DID LAST YEAR BUT THEY DIDNT SO THEY ARE OFF TILL THE 11TH
ON LAWS PASSED ONLY ONE LAW WE ARE WAITING FOR AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN REPORTED AS PASSED AND THEN NOT PASSED THEY REDID THE 2ND READING CUZ A SESSION WAS NOT FINISHED SO THEY CARRIED IT OVER TO A SATURDAY THEN TO A MONDAY AND DID THE 2ND READING
WE ARE WAITING FOR ONE VOTE AND ONLY ONE LAW AND IT IS NOT UP FOR A VOTE YET SO THAT IS THE ANSWERS TO WHAT YOU SAID BOTHERED YOU I WILL SAY THIS ALSO THIS RV IS NOT MOST LIKELY GOING TO COME WHEN MOST PEOPLE NEED IT TO SAVE THEM IT WILL COME TO GIVE THEM A NEW START
hoperv says to (01:53:52): yes it does, thanks we all need help these days
Med says to (01:54:11): HELL YES LOL I HAVE BEEN VERY BLESSED DURING THESE HARD TIMES
hoperv says to (01:54:47): just hope its not 4 more years
Med says to (01:56:29): WELL I AM PATIENT BUT NOT A MORON IF THERE WAS A HINT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE 4 MORE YEARS THEY CAN KMA I WILL LOCK IT UP
hoperv says to (01:57:16): yes so true
Med says to (01:57:18): AND GO ON WITH MY LIFE AND WHEN I HEAR IT HAS ENDED I WILL GO TO THE BANK AND UNLOCK
hoperv says to (01:57:41): yep
Med says to (01:58:01): HOPE I COULD NOT BARE
hoperv says to (01:58:14): but we dinaraholics would need time and consulting
Med says to (01:58:15): TO WATCH THE SUFFERING THAT I HAVE WATCHED THE LAST 5 YRS FOR ANOTHER 4
hoperv says to (01:58:36): conselling sp? duh I agree even those who seem to have it together, are in need, sucks!
Dinarfrank says to (01:59:43): Evening Med. Thanks for the update. Sorry about your truck fire.
Med says to (02:00:08): HI FRANK TY AND YW
Dinarfrank says to (02:00:27): And you are right. We have ALL been very blessed.
Med says to (02:00:31): YES I HAVE WELL GANG I AM GOING TO BED
Med says to (13:57:51): OK BACK — CHAT PART #2
JustaGuy says to (14:00:07): Hi Med, in your opinion is the parliment fighting the democratic form of government and just dragging their feet to try to prevent it?
Med says to (14:00:33): ABSOLUTELY NOT
JustaGuy says to (14:01:04): It seems like they fight everything that would be good for them
Med says to (14:01:54): NO NOT EXACTLY YOU HAVE REMEMBER 3 BLOCS THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE WHO HAS ONE AGENDA COMBINING ALL THE POWER UNDER ONE MAN MALIKI
YOU HAVE THE IRAQI LIST MADE UP SO SHIITES AND SUNNI’S WHO HAD A VERY GOOD PLAN TO REBUILD IRAQ AND NOT HAVE SO MUCH GOVT INTERFERENCE
THEN THE KURDS WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT KURDISTAN THE ISSUE IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE NA IS NOT THE LARGEST BLOC IT HAS THE KURDs WHICH ARE LOCKED TO THEM THROUGH A FOOLISH DECISION
JustaGuy says to (14:04:55): so it boils down to them just not being able to agree on anything
Med says to (14:05:08): CORRECT THAT IS IT EXACTLY BUT REMEMBER IT WAS AGREED UPON THAT THIS WOULD BE A UNIFIED GOVT WITH ALL PARICIPATING AT ALL LEVELS
IT IS NOT ALL THE IRAQI LIST AND KURDS ARE STICKNG TOO IS WHAT MALIKI PROMISED FOR THE PM SPOT AGAIN NOW THE KURDS WERE ***** IN MY OPINION AND THEY ARE NOT IN GENERAL
JustaGuy says to (14:07:37): yeah – they seem to have the only brains in Iraq
Med says to (14:08:16): THEY BEING SCREWED 4 YRS EARLIER SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER BUT THEY WERE SO ANTI SUNNI THAT IS WHY THEY WOULD NOT BACK ALLAWI
JustaGuy says to (14:10:13) I guess you can’t hardley blame them – aren’t they the ones Saddam used WMD on
Med says to (14:11:40): NO THE SHIITES THE KURDS WERE PRETTY MUCH LEFT ALONE ALL THIS TIME SINCE WE HAD A NO FLY ZONE OK I HAVE ALLOT TO DO OK I HAVE TO GO SEE YOU ALL LATER TAKE CARE AND THANK YOU ALL
MED CHAT PART #3
Med says to (19:58:49): YOU KNOW HI DAN I HAD A VERY INTERESTING CHAT VERY EARLY THIS MORNING WITH HOPERV HOPE SAID WHAT WAS THE HANGUP I SAID ON WHAT I KNEW WHAT HOPE MEANT BUT IF I DIDNT GET A ? OUT OF HOPE WHAT WAS SPECIFICALLY BOTHERING THEM I COULDNT SET MYSELF UP TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFICS
I THINK IT IS A GOOD TIME TO GO OVER WHAT I SAID TO HOPE AND I HOPE IT IS BURNT INTO SOME PEOPLES MINDS
FIRST OFF I SAID THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO HANG UP DID ANYONE GIVE A SPECIFIC DATE IN CBI OR ANYWHERE ELSE surfsidedan says to (20:01:53): no
Med says to (20:01:59): NO YOUR RIGHT BUT SOMEHOW HOPE THOUGHT THEY SAID 10 DAYS IN JUNE
I SAID AS YOU DAN IT HADNT EVEN BEEN SENT TO THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS THE FINAL DECISION TO GO WAS NOT MADE TILL THE 3RD WK IN JUNE AND IT DIDNT SEE THE C.O.M TILL WHAT LATE JULY….EARLY AUGUST AND NEVER WAS READ TILL SEPTEMBER
THEN THE 2ND READING WAS WHAT OCTOBER OR LATE SEPTEMBER I DONT REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE BUT IT WAS ABOUT 40 DAYS FROM WHEN THEY RETURNED THEN HOPE WAS BOTHERED BY IT IS LAWS PASSED THEN NOT PASSED
NOW THIS IS NOT TRUE WE AS AN INVESTOR ARE ONLY CONCERNED WITH ONE LAW PASSED AND ALL OF US BY NOW SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT NOTHING ELSE EVERY SINGLE DAY IS THAT IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON YET THE FINAL VOTE HAS NOT HAPPENED AND IT IS THE ONLY VOTE WE ARE WAITING FOR
SO I WAS KINDA MIFFED AT WHERE DID ALL THE LAWS PASSED NOT PASSED COME IN TO CONFUSE ANYONE AND BEING THAT AS I SAID ALSO THIS IS A COUNTRY FIGHTING FOR IT’S IDENTITY YES THE RV WILL BRING IN BIG THINGS
BUT IF THE COUNTRY DOES NOT SURVIVE WHO CARES IT HAS TO LAST SO THAT ALL THAT DINAR THAT THOSE COUNTRIES AS THE U.S. IS THE LARGEST HOLDER CAN USE IT IF IT FOLDED WE AMERICA ARE IN A WORLD OF SH*T SO WOULD FRANCE THE UK
CHINA IT WOULD NOT EFFECT FOR OUR 3 COUNTRIES IT IS LIKE HOLDING AN IOU MARKER IT IS NEVER WORTH ANYTHING UNLESS IT IS HONORED RIGHT NOW ALSO IRAQ IS VERY CONCERNED OVER IT’S AIRSPACE
WE ALL KNOW NO MATTER WHAT IRAN SAYS OR PROMISES OR SIGNS IT MEANS SQUAT REMEMBER THESE JOKERS FOLLOW ADOLPH HITLER HE SIGNED TREATY AFTER TREATY AND BROKE EVERYONE ATTACKED EVERY COUNTRY HE SIGNED A TREATY WITH IRAN WOULD DO THE SAME THING WITH IRAQ
EVEN THOUGH FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE THEY SAY ALL IS GREAT WITH THE SECURITY FORCES THEY KNOW IT IS NOT SO THEY ARE SCRAMBLING NOW AT THE 11TH HR TO REVERSE THE DAMAGE THEY CAUSED BY RUNNING DOWN THE U.S.
THEY ALSO FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED AS I SAID ALL ALONG THEY ARE NOT A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY AS LONG AS THEY ARE UNDER CHAPTER VII SEE CHAPTER VII STRIPS THEM OF ALL INTERNATIONAL PROTECTIONS THAT IS WHY IRAQ CAN BE SUED AS A GOVT
OTHER COUNTRIES CANNOT WHO ARE PROTECTED BY THE INTERNATIONAL LAW IT IS ONLY IF A COUNTRY IS KIND ENOUGH TO PROTECT ASSETS OF IRAQS AS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS COULD THEY TRADE OR MAKE PAYMENTS TOO SEE REMEMBER CANADA AND THE UK DID NOT DO THIS THAT IS WHY KUWAIT WAS ABLE TO CONFISCATE THE AIRCRAFTIN CANADA AND THE AIRLINE IN THE UK FOR PAYMENT ON THE DEBT OWED THEM AND BEING THAT (OWE CHANGING DIRECTION) LOL
THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND AT SUCH A MAJOR MAGNITUDE HOW CAN ANYONE SAY IT IS NOT BEING DONE IN THE RIGHT TIME FRAME THE ONLY REASON THAT IS SAID IS IMPATIENCE ON OUR PART NOTHING MORE
LOOK AT US WE DONT HAVE A BUDGET WE DONT HAVE ANY BILLS IN THE HOUSE OR SENATE TO PROMOTE JOBS IN FACT RIGHT NOW I AM NOT EVEN SURE ONE OF THEM IS WORKING THE ONLY POLITICIANS WORKING IT SEEMS ARE THE GOP CANDIDATES EXCEPT FOR MR CAIN WHO SEEMED TO BE DOING A GOOD IMPRESSION OF BILL CLINTON ON WOMANIZING SO I FIGURED I WOULD TOUCH BASE ON THOSE THINGS SINCE SO MANY WERE ON TY ALL ALL DONE
rowboat says to (20:18:44): great chat papaw19 says to (20:18:46): TY med
Med says to (20:18:51): TY
surfsidedan says to (20:18:56): Ty Med Stoeser30 says to (20:19:00): thanks a bunch med
Med says to (20:19:02): YVW I AM REALLY AS I SAID TRYING TO GET A READ ON WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON
papaw19 says to (20:19:24): one day close moose says to (20:19:35): thanks med; i don’t know how you keep all this data and the timeline in your memory silverstar360 says to (20:19:40): once again clear and concise info thank you Stoeser30 says to (20:19:49): med for prime minister lol, jk
Med says to (20:19:51): TY SILVERSTAR MY OLE FRIEND
rowboat says to (20:19:54): med, had that all written down sadielou says to (20:19:56): Thank you Med
Med says to (20:19:59): YW FUNNY ROWBOAT

MAILMAN CHAT 6 DEC

ArlingtonAZ says to (21:25:57): agreement on cooperation and partnership between Iraq and the European Union http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt…ooperation-and
mailman17 says to (22:01:25): EXCELLENT POST ARLINGTON
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR….IRAQS FINAL DOTTING OF THE I’S AND CROSSING OF THE T’S
THINK ABOUT ALL THEY HAVE GOT DONE JUST IN THE LAST MONTH SOME WE KNEW ABOUT AND SOME THEY DIDNT ADVERTISE, BUT WE FOUND OUT ANYWAY
IT ALL GOES BACK TO ADDING IT ALL UP…PIECE BY PIECE TO GET THE WHOLE PICTURE I EXPECT MALIKIS MEETING WITH OBAMA TO BE THE CATALYST..IMO
THEY HAVE HAD SOVEREIGNTY FOR A WHILE NOW…NOW THE WILL GET A CHANCE TO PROVE IT WITHOUT OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE EXCEPT WHAT FEW SANCTIONS REMAIN
WHICH DOESN’T EFFECT US ANYWAY THE DINAR CLOCK IS TRULY TICKING ITS LOUDEST JUST LISTEN FOR WHEN IT STOPS….AND MALIKI IS JUST THE ********THAT FORGOT TO REWIND IT…LOL
YOUR GONNA SEE A LOT COME DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS DAY BY DAY LEADING UP TO FINAL TROOP WITHDRAWL AND IRAQ FINALLY GETTING THE CHANCE TO STAND ON THEIR OWN
THE US AND THE UN DIDNT THINK THEY COULD DO IT….EVEN WITH THEIR OWN INTERNAL SQUABBLING AND CORRUPTION…THEY WOULDNT BE ATWHEE THEY ARE AT NOW LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN THE WEEK…ILLUSION ALSO KNOWN AS MISINFORMATION WILL BE AT ITS HIGHEST WEED IT OUT AND SIT BACK
THIS WILL UNFOLD LIKE WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD INFRASTRUCTURE WILL NOT WAIT COUNTRIES WILL NOT WAIT ITS TIME
SECURITY WILL BE IN PLACE…..BEFORE WE LEAVE… BUT THERES THAT ILLUSION…LOL…ARE WE THERE OR ARENT WE?…LOL WE WILL BE THERE ENOUGH IN FORCE TO KEEP IRAQ STABLE TILL THEY CAN GET THEIR OWN CRAP TOGETHER
LETS FACE IT…ITS GONNA TAKE 20 YEARS TO TEACH EVEN THE SMARTEST MAN OUTSIDE OF SHABBIBI HOW TO FLY AND F-16 THEY ARE STILL GETTING THEIR FINGERS CAUGHT IN THOSE RUBBER BAND BALSA WOOD AIRPLANES
ArlingtonAZ says to (22:14:05):
mailman17 says to (22:14:25): OK…SORRY TO INTERRUPT…BACK TO CHAT…LOL
moose says to (22:14:28): iraqi f-16 pilot >>> shudder eeek
mailman17 says to (22:14:41): VERY SCARY MOOSE
moose says to (22:14:50): i’m runnin’ for cover at the very thot
mailman17 says to (22:15:02): ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CAMELS TAXI IT OUT TO THE RUNWAY
moose says to (22:15:09): lol
moose says to (22:15:19) i can run very fast when properly motivated
mailman17 says to (22:15:52): OK…GONNA RUN…JUST A FRIENDLY DRIVE BY….GN ALL
ArlingtonAZ says to (22:16:11): (}) see yah
moose says to (22:16:15): gn mm17 — thx for the drive by
mailman17 says to (22:16:29): YW LATER AZ
wellcraft says to (22:16:35): gn mm thanks
mailman17 says to (22:16:45): YVW

BWM POST-CHAT 6 DEC

[Birdie] Welcome back! Please give us an idea of the cash in process at the banks. Thanks.
[BWM] cash in’s will vary slightly from bank to bank… depending on verification processes…. whether they have a de la rue or whether they will verify online…
[gardener] Will the dong be treated the same as the dinar at cashin.
[BWM] the dong has been traded…. the main issue is coming from a communist country may cause problems with individual banks…
[homeschoolmama] BWM…..did you leave us? So we have read that Iraq is now out of Chapter 7 and in order for that to happen there has to have been an RV. We have read $5.71 is the bank rate. Not bashing what has been said but just want to know your take on it all. R we there? Will we see it this week?
[BWM] homeschoolmama remember everything you read still may not be accurate… with that said, I’m pretty sure according to information received today that 7 is complete… I have heard a number of rates tossed around today… have also heard that some may be “test” rates so let’s wait til the numbers change and we cash out…
[.tigger1] Can u give a summary of what you know or what you have confirmation on?
[BWM] .tigger1 there is only so much I can/will say… I have not been asked to “gag” anything but I’m also not one to put things out there without some confirmation that makes me believe in what I’m saying ,, Read More Link on Right
[Prospernow] Will we pay the UST 1% at the bank when we cash in? [BWM] not that I know at this time… the 1 percent was supposed to be a transaction fee.. and last heard that had died
[mimi49] BWM: will try again, are you on same time line as many for tonight/tomorrow for RV to drop or have they already dropped? [BWM] it’s more of a show thing than dropped for me at this time…
[alohadinar] BWM Any thoughts to what some of the other chat boards are saying about it haveing happened and showing in banks? [BWM] alohadinar I have info saying it is at some banks… still not confirmed “LIVE” rate at this time
[BeerNutz] BWM What time will we see the RV? [BWM] BeerNutz what time will the wind start blowing tomorrow morning
[harleyrider] How confident are you of the reported Chapter VII release? [BWM] according to my information I feel very good… [Angel08] I have heard that the dinar banker processes payment thru a Polish bank will that delay payout? [BWM] may cause issues with a “foreign” transfer vs. domestic… if they have a U.S. presence then that is not an issue… I have not seen if they do at this point
[whoopi] BWM Where did the dong get traded….and why might it be an issue. Thank you for everything!!! [BWM] what I meant is that is was TRADED before…
[superstar] Does the RV has to happen before 7 [BWM] yes…
[DP4win] how long before activation iyo?? [BWM] well if you’ve heard about this “banks not ready” business… BULL… banks are ticked and quite upset over the fact this has taken so long
[ekay] Is jonny still conferming information to pass on to us? [BWM] on the phone with jonny at the moment… he may be on soon also
[BeerNutz] BWM So if the Chapt
er 7 is lifted then they had to RV? [BWM] in order to be lifted… they must RV
[longawaited] I heard we will have to sign a letter to not buy any more dinar at the old rate, but would this include the open reserves still held if I cash One to two first, since it was initiated before that date? [BWM] have not heard such a letter… and if the RV occurs there will be no “old rate”
Jaybo] BWM thanks for all you, Jonny, and all the mods do, have you had any confirmation one way or the other about a set amount of time to cash in? [BWM] not expected a time limit at this time
[Metthodius] Just so we are all clear, if the Chapter 7 has been lifted, then the Dinar has been revalued at it new rate and is ready t be released for international trading? [BWM] even though chap 7 may be done… it can not be released until they are publically announced released by the UN IMO
[fund] Please comment…[cashinqueen] agai: Anyone know about this: [10:42:33 PM] Randeee: [10:00 PM] Randeee: <<< WE ARE A GO — JUST INFORMED RV RATE HAS BEEN POSTED — $ 8.50! Banks worldwide – Just posted. Per my intel sources in Australia! YEEEEE HOWWWWWW [10:13 PM] John MacHaffie: [BWM] personally I’m not buying it at this time… [LINDI] BWM…Which comes first…Banks? CBI? [BWM] could be exact moment… or either first [sixwings] BWM Thank you for your time tonight. May I ask you what you are expecting to happen next tonight and…. How will we know when to move forward? I really do appreciate all that you are doing!!! You are a gift to each of us! [BWM] I would expect the next things we look for is a change of currency values… altho it may happen simultaneously with other events .tigger1] What was the update that u and PIF had or was that just a joke? [BWM] well PIF and I had an ongoing discussion all day… it was a way to get a classroom I guess.. lol [soflgirl] From what you’re hearing , will it be a managed rate? [BWM] I believe so [vivrelereve] PIF ty [BWM] geeez [TheBeav] Is it necessary to assign our dinars to our LLC PRE RV or just as long as its done PRE cash-in. Is that document required to have a notary. Not sure if this is your area of expertise, just asking. Thanks. [BWM] I just don’t believe in sharing information as a non professional… please seek out a tax professional before doing your final cashin (large amounts for sure) [ceo] are the rates you believe more then 4usd? [BWM] I believe it will be [LINDI] BWM…So Many Questions! Do you have an opinion of how O will sidestep the RV in his speech tomorrow other than just not mentioning it? What kind of explanation do you think he will put forth to explain the influx of “cash”? [BWM] he’ll do his usual.. blame the reps and then walk off without answering questions… after showing up 45 minutes late [momoney] would it be wise for me to pull a all nighter waiting ??? will the main room be open later than 12am tonight my time? [BWM] the plan is not to create any undue expectations… so unless something changes before 1am central I would expect we’d close and reopen if necessary [eleanor] Sorry I just got back in here. If the rumors about rate and posting are false why did the PTB silence the intel providers? [BWM] I think it was more of a courtesy thing… IMO [TubandJo] BWM Do you have any thoughts about what Glenn Beck is talking about between today and this Thursday? Pam Me!!! Thank You! [BWM] he is gathing information from what I have heard [whoopi] BWM Do you know where the dong was traded? Thanks! [BWM] it used to be traded worldwide… please understand that what I’m talking about is that the VND was ALREADY recognized at an international currency… [Metthodius] So a public announcement of the Chapter 7 release must precede the release of the Dinar for international activation and trade. Would you expect this annoutnment by the UN tomorrow? And if so, would that mean no currency revaluation until post announcement? [BWM] I think the RV could happen prior but the announcement cannot be made until the RV occurs [tookie] Is it still a fact that countries will not be able to “cash-in” until six months after The RV? [BWM] tookie where do you get this… no and where do you consider your “facts” [justinTIME] BWM i need you to pm me back i have some info for you and mr jonny [BWM] justinTIME sorry double clicked [gardener] Have you heard a rate on the Dong? [BWM] still looking at a nickel unless something changes….been quiet on the VND [booyahoo] HI BWM, I appreciate you, thank you! Is there any validity to updates occurring on the 1st and 15th only, and do you see this dragging on till the 15th? [BWM] no the UN operational rates UPDATE on those days… but that has nothing to do with ACTUAL rates that a country can charge… [superstar] Dinar Banker still selling, can you explain pls [BWM] have the rates changed? no so they HAVE to sell [dinarlover1001] BWM any updates about how we will be taxed on this? [BWM] nothing has changed at this point… still looking for the 15% and prepare for the worst [cti4mrb] BWM ….Will the bank screens show the cbi,ust and of course the bank rates … I will cash in 1 note and wait for bank packages to negociate the rest [BWM] bank screen will show their buy/sell rates… CBI shows on CBI [OhanaNena] Will you need receipts to cash in your dinar with the banks? Thank you [BWM] no money is money [Azchef] If this posts tonight, would we have a wait to go to bank? [BWM] Azchef well til they open [dmh] Have you seen this post what to you do you know about this [10:00 PM] Randeee: <<< WE ARE A GO — JUST INFORMED RV RATE HAS BEEN POSTED — $ 8.50! Banks worldwide – Just posted. Per my intel sources in Australia! YEEEEE HOWWWWWW [10:13 PM] John MacHaffie [BWM] dmh been over that
[chillimac1] Are other countries rv’d yet the 133, are they waiting just like us [BWM] everything hinges on the dinar
[beachdreaming] are we still expecting this to show up tonight? [BWM] I’m still looking for it… but I have strange sleeping habits
[Biggyjc] will we see packages once bank confirmations occur? [BWM] yes.. we will post them as we have them
[LINDI] BWM…So, what are you personally expecting (given your sources)? [BWM] I’m expecting that my truck will run over most vehicles around here… and there
[kouty] is the UN meeting tomorrow? I may have heard wrong… [BWM] yes
[Yousparkle] BWM — do you believe the dealers won’t be allowed to cash in for a few days to give banks head start?
[BWM] doubt it… but it was a thought process earlier… think now that it’s all coming BUT we’ll watch them all to see
[homeschoolmama] What are the 4 “Big” banks…hubby asked me and I drew a blank other than BofA and Chase [BWM] boa, chase, Wells fargo, 5/3rd
[beachdreaming] will we be able to buy our awesome trucks this week with RV funds? [BWM] and we still wait… cuz I can’t afford the gas much less the tires
[californiaguy] I like Beck a lot. He’s a national treasure in many respects. But I think given the timing of this RV event, that ANY high-profile commentary about the Dinar could be a disservice to us who’ve been here for the long haul. I hope “mums” the word from Mr Beck. [BWM] there are things that could be detrimental to the national situation… hopefully that will resolve itself
[spazzer65] BWM do you think the gov will let beck inform the public before RV ? [BWM] not sure he’s quick enough
[money11] BWM, are the packages only for WF and Chase? Thanks for having strange sleeping habits and lots of long, hard hours. [BWM] money11 Jonny has some for Canada and started Australia today I think… we’ll keep you updated [eleanor] do you know what time the un meeting is scheduled for? thank you [BWM] eleanor no.. have not gotten that yet…
[QF1] **BWM, you might want to pass this along: I’ve been reviewing the documents for the United Nations for tomorrow’s agenda published via the official: Journal of the United Nations, Programmed of Mtgs & Agenda … Security Council, Item # 2, The situation concerning Iraq: First Report of the Secretary-General pursuant to Paragraph 6 of Resolution 2001 – s/2011/736 — This meeting begins @ 0900ET [BWM] and there you go…
[Dusty01] BWM , will there in fact be a 2 or 3 phase/tier cashin, if you know??? [ko15] CHANNEL 4 10:00 a.m..: Security Council Meeting: The situation concerning Iraq (English) First report of the Secretary-General pursuant to paragraph 6 of resolution 2001 (2011) (S/2011/736) http://www.unmultimedia. ··· dex.html [BWM] Dusty01 when it shows… it’s our turn
[abundantlife] Thank you so very much for looking into the Australian Bank packages for us. What a blessings. [BWM] abundantlife glad to help
[booyahoo] Can you pls elaborate on what exactly a bank package is? thanks much [BWM] booyahoo it will allow you to get the highest rate the bank can give, unlimited insurance and a couple of other perks to be announce post rv
[QF1] **BWM, one final item concerning the UN tomorrow – Iraq is now included as delegates in various sessions after the Security Council has concluded ***
[tookie] My facts come from last April, May when they were telling everyone that the countries could not cashin for 6 months after the RV to allow for the US to be able to collect as many of the large notes as possible and give the little guy time to do their business. [BWM] tookie well guess what… those weren’t facts… those were heresay… and things have changed for the global situation in the last 6 months
Jodi] BWM Anything over 250,000. we will have to have a company such as Lloyds Of London insure…so, do we open several accounts in several banks and get Lloyds to insure all of them or just have one account in one bank? Thanks for your time! [BWM] it’s actually 250k PER signature on your account.. if you had say you, a spouse and 4 kids… that’s 1.5 million [BWM] altho some banks limit the max…
[bigsc] BWM Its almost 8 am in Iraq, have you heard from anyone in iraq since prayer was completed? [BWM] no… don’t think we are concerned they have a holiday tomorrow/today
[rterry228] BWM:Heard a lot of mods were asked to back off for 48 HRS (which is now over) Because after that, it would not matter! Any comment? [BWM] rterry228 mods no… no one asked me… but then considering I don’t like my stuff seen anyway
[cti4mrb] BWM… Citi Bank won’t be considered a good place to go? (Not a big 4)
[sooner75] BWM we have heard there were a total of * banks that would initially cash it. What are the 4 besides the Big 4 that was just mentioned? [BWM] heard the top 9 were a possibility first… but if the rates are showing then you can cash
[mjgroup] 4 “Big” Banks are boa, chase, wells fargo & citigroup [BWM] mjgroup chase and citibank are part of same family.. hence 1 bank
[katydid] BWM are we expecting to see the rate during the nite? And would it be best to go out to the airport to cash just a bill or 2 in quick, to get fast cash to get my trusts set up and then try to find the best bank / rate or dealer to cash in? sorry if this has already been asked I just came here?? [BWM] katydid we are watching as usual…
[kouty] does the CBI holiday (again) have any bad bearing on the rate showing for us? [BWM] shouldn’t
[homeschoolmama] BWM….just thought of 1 more question……hubby is unemployed so we have not been able to open an acct at any of the “big” 4 because all the money we have needs to be in our reg checking acct to pay bills….will that delay us being able to cash in since we will have to open our acct with RV funds…..or will they be so happy to have our money at their bank that it won’t be a problem? [BWM] no… I will be doing the same… we don’t have big 4 banks within an hour and a half from me… so will do a note and then travel to set up other accounts
[Renegade] Wells Fargo has shared with me that they will provide 250K of insurance for every beneficary of our trust so that gets the coverage beyond the extended family, do you know if this is true of other banks? [BWM] again… every bank will have their own protocol
[californiaguy] I thought that a non-interest bank acct. qualified forthe automatic no-limiton the principle insurance exception – mandated by the FDIC? Expires in 2012. [BWM] limitations per branches…
[basictruth] BWM Will banks change their standard ways of doing business when this happens [BWM] they are regulated to a point… but some minor things may change but they will prolly benefit you
rterry228] BWM: Chase will insure almost any amount, as long as the account is non-interest bearing!
[BWM] ok.. so that’s it for questions… Katt has posted the prior questions and answers