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Monday, December 5, 2011

DINAR GURUS 5 DEC

12-5-2011 GuruTonyTNT Received over 5 confirmations in the last hour that CHAPTER 7 HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY LIFTED! Announcement should be made at UN in the morning…How can this be without an RV?….IT CAN”T!
12-5-2011 Guru Checkmate I expect something to happen today. Today things need to be decided on and concluded for this to happen. I don’t think this will be a normal day. There is no way they can turn this RV around now…I think todays a great day to watch.
12-5-2011 Guru TonyTNT IMF is making announcements now… I am looking for this to be a great day…and a great week…The RV has to happen in a rational order. We can’t keep waiting and waiting because a lot of critical things need to happen AFTER the RV and need the RV to happen so these things can happen
12-5-2011 Guru Fresh So I guess the cat is out of the bag now lol…Contact states the rate is at the banks at $5.71 no clue when we see it live…I have two other contacts that have shared stuff with me Today… (contact) has a friend who’s a banker and she had him call a “bank to bank” 800 number – he called her back and said the rate is loaded and it’s showing $5.71.
12-5-2011 Gurus OkieOilMan/Bulldog75 WE CONTINUE TO GET POSITIVE NEWS ON PROGRESS REGARDING REMOVAL OF CHAPTER 7 AND THAT A RATE SHOULD BE POSTING SOON. GOOSE EGGS WILL BE COMING DOWN AND THE GOLDEN GOOSE SHALL SOON SHOW THE GOLDEN EGGS.
12-5-2011 Guru Jonnywg Fasten seat belts…the news will be released very soon…what we know is that all the meetings are over and some final agreements were signed sealed and delivered. We do not have it official in the BANK or the CBI. This will happen…WE WERE JUST advised 2 of big 4 will be closed at 4pm central…We have not verified screens as to actual time but they were to close for 30 plus minute. IRAQ has been removed from chapter 7….This means the RV has happened but is not showing yet but will be soon…this is the final step to a sovereign nation
12-5-2011 Guru Bulldog75 WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS MAJOR ACTIVITY OCCURING IN THE MIDDLE EAST NOW. WE AWAIT THE PHONE CALL WHICH WE UNDERSTAND WILL BE COMING, MOMENTARILY. CBI MAY POSSIBLY POST THIS AT THEIR DELAYED DISCRETION. WE ARE AWAYING FOR OTHER CONFIRMING PHONE CALLS.
12-5-2011 Guru Lojak The news has not changed at all, all is great. I have not spoken to one person in the entire community today that know of any holdups. One of the things that is going on is security related in this country. I just had confirmed that the 3 lettter agencies are fanning out everywhere getting ready–why remember there are bad guys holding dinar in the USA too. the folks that have helped us gather information have now asked that we stop talking…we are just waiting …
12-5-2011 Guru Sonny1 i just talked to my m.e friends…they are very, very good friends, with the editor of the khaleez times out of dubai…they are hearing, that there will be a rate change of the iraqi dinar by the second week of jan 2012…the hcl should be completely signed and posted in the gazzette in the next 7-10 days, then they will rv with-in 3 weeks of that date…when it comes to rumors, and that is really what it is, these are the only people who might actually know…lets hope its true.
12-5-2011 Guru BWM CBI updated last night around 1:30 central with no change BUT there are things that need to occur very soon. With that said, have gotten nothing that says we are not still on track and looking very hard at the opportunities to show today…We will keep you updated as information comes available.
12-5-2011 Guru Bear5642 I BELIEVE WE WILL SEE IRAQ LIFTED FROM CHAPTER 7 TODAY OR TOMORROW AND WITH IT COMES OUR RV. THIS RV PROCESS HAS BEGUN AND IRAQ WANTS ITS FREEDOM…OUR REWARD IS SOOOOOO NEAR.
12-5-2011 Newhound Guru Joey They are in a urgent hurry to get things accomplished. When it comes right down to it…This is a country that was under sanction for many years…toughest sanctions ever imposed on any country…The Iraqi people have suffered for so long…So when a country and economy grows and they regain their pride….and they sitting on a sea of oil…and unbelievable wealth…and when the wealth is to be distributed also to the people..they have waited for a long time to see their currency revalue…they are proud…at one point in time their currency was worth 3 times American dollar…many Iraqis have suffered…they want all of the same things we all want…and the RV is a natural part of the process.
12-5-2011 Guru Adam Montana an article specifically addressing Chapter 7 states that although the US troops (God bless them all) are leaving, that does not mean Iraq is automatically out of Chapter 7, why is this a good article? simple, we’ve heard from several Iraqi leaders lately, saying that Iraq is sovereign etc, this puts it out there that Iraq is NOT sovereign. now that it is being directly addressed it must be dealt with and that’s a GREAT thing for us. so, hopefully this will be an awesome week in Dinar, if it doesn’t get dealt with this week at least we know it’s on the table and our time is coming soon…and then we’re zoooooooooooom! off to the bank, with any luck!
12-5-2011 Guru JonnywgMonday Monday, with good news and I am still very positive. I have passed my “no comment” promise and will start commenting on the situation. We are in the end zone but UNDER REVIEW. The bank screens STILL SHOW $00.000 and the UST is reporting at 9am cst. This cannot go on. There was major activity this weekend as many dignitaries were escorted into Washington re the RV. Papers to be signed and agreements to process. There is no reason known that we would not have closure very soon. I will release data all day and be glued to our interests. It is tough as we all expected it last night into today. TODAY IS NOT OVER.
12-5-2011 Guru Hammerman [new guru] a Little birdie whispered that the codes that are expiring about midnight tonight [Sunday] were given a one week extension. Only for additional time if needed…doesn’t mean we wait another wk, it’s just a safety measure to cover themselves.Rate…hearing 5.72, 40cents more or less, tied to pound…Can go into tomorrow [Monday] morning or evening.
12-5-2011 Guru Ennorste There are no disadvantages to Iraq in raising the value of their currency. The advantages are enormous. The people will see their standard of living improve month to month as they are able to import more and more goods cheaply. With an RV the local Iraqi will [for example] pay 7 dinars for his dinner (worth $25) and will have 24,993 dinars still in the BANK, worth US $75,000. All of this is possible with a RAISE in the VALUE of the IQD…[hmmm, is he giving us a hint about the rate?]
12-5-2011 Guru Freeway Bill Things are moving at the speed of light on the level needed from Iraq to try to get their country up to where they need to be. We have Kurds in DC, Maliki meeting with our government about where we go from here. This is not just intel, this is real….We have Iraq with a budget that has to be solid by December 6. How can their budget be solid without an RV? This is not just intel, this is real ….Be cautiously optimistic over the next couple dozen hours that something fabulous could happen as to carry this blessing forward in a timely manner.

ARIEL POST : RATE $5.71 5 DEC

I am going to keep up my faith and believe any second now. The Intel givers are just giving what they get. We will wait till it shows on the teller screens. Unless you have Intel please keep your negative comments to yourself !
Blessings, CZ
Ariel144 posted in 3S’s chat Mon night – from dinar recaps
12/05/2011 _[ariel144] 6:49 PM pat: 6:43 PM Contact states the rate is at the banks at $5.71 no clue when we see it live… 6:49 PM (contact) has a friend who’s a banker and she had him call a “bank to bank” 800 number – he called her back and said the rate is loaded and it’s showing $5.71 6:49 PM that’s what got reposted (was posted on accident on my site originally – was only supposed to be pm’d to a few people)

TERRYK CHAT UPDATE 5 DEC

TerryK 4:25 PM EST on 12/5/11
[3:36:04 PM] Tammy (TamRon400):
[terryk] WHERE IS OUR RV
[terryk] COME ON
[terryk] ALREADY
[terryk] LIKE LETS GET IT DONE
[terryk] HELLO ALL

TerryK 5:36 pm 11/05/11
[terryk] ANYONE HEAR HOW THE TALKS WENT TODAY?
[Agent 007] nothing yet
[terryk] BUMMER
[Agent 007] TK on the talks zippo but tons of rumors floating around out there
[terryk] YEA I HEAR ALL THE RUMORS
[terryk] BUT HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OFFICAL ANNOUNCEMENT
[terryk] OK BE BACK IN A FEW
[terryk] WRAPPING PRESENTS
[terryk] FOR THE GRANDDAUGHTER
TerryK chat 6:36pm 11/05/11
[Terryk] IF HE IS ON THEIR CALL ITS JUST LIKE HE IS ON OUR’S ......
[TerryK] BUT IF THEY DID ANNOUNCE IT OVER THERE WHAT DIFFERENCE [TerryK] WOULD IT MAKE
[TerryK] LIKE I ALWAYS SAID WHO CARES WHO ANNOUNCES
6:36 PM [Agent 007] thank you Ghost
6:36 PM [Hereiam] Nothing! It is a business!
[TerryK] LET’S JUST GET IT DONE
[TerryK] DINNER CALLS
[TerryK] BE BACK IN A FEW

TERRYK CHAT 5 DEC

[terryk] HEY ALL. I'M CANCELING THE OPPORTUNITIES CALL TONIGHT, FYI. GOT A CALL A FEW HOURS AGO, THOUGHT IT WAS BULL, BUT THEY DONT WANT US EVEN DISCUSSING TRUSTS TONIGHT
[mirty] Why Tk?
[terryk] LET'S ALL CROSS OUR FINGERS AND THANK THE LORD ABOVE FOR THE GIFT THATS UPON US
[kaycee] interesting
[kmiller68] who is "they"?
[terryk] TRUSTS ARE DINAR-RELATED
[cjswest] wooohoooooooooo
[mirty] TK that's great!
[terryk] DINAR GUYS ON THE CALL, AND WELL IT'S KINDA DINAR-RELATED RIGHT, SO NOT TAKING ANY CHANCES WITH THIS
[mirty] Nope, good ideaTK
[terryk] YOU'RE WELCOME MIRTY
[mirty] God bless you
[mirty] Hey TK, quick ? ?
[terryk] WHAT'S THAT
[mirty] Where is Gankans?
[terryk] I JUST TALKED TO HIM
[mirty] Tell him to come play with us
[terryk] CALLING HIM NOW. RODNEY WILL BE IN, IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES. HE IS WATCHING A SHOW WITH THE WIFE. HE WILL BE RIGHT HERE, OK? HEY ALL KEEP AL'S WIFE CONNIE IN YOUR PRAYERS. SHE WENT IN TO THE HOSPITAL FOR SOME SMALL WORK AND BLOOD SUGAR WAS WAY TO HIGH. THEY ARE KEEPING HER OVERNIGHT
[mirty] Yes TK, we have been praying for Connie
[Ks_dad] Will do TK, do you know her latest condition, is she stable?
[terryk] YES SHE, IS OK
[mirty] We send her a big hug
[terryk] AL IS JUST OUT OF WHACK
[mirty] Poor Al
[terryk] YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. OK, I WILL BE BACK IN A BIT. LATER
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AJANDERSON POST 5 DEC

35 PM millionairemoma: Mon 6pm…OMG I have been out of town for a few days and Tony just called with some awesome news for me to share with all of you >>>Received over 5 confirmations in the last hour that CHAPTER 7 HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY LIFTED! Announcement should be made at UN in the morning…How can this be without an RV?….IT CAN”T! tnt
AndieZ1] [5:40 PM] [jonnywg] IRAQ has been removed from Chapter 7. It
is true that this means the RV has happened but is not showing yet but
will be soon. Iraq officially removed from Chapter 7 which dictates
that the rv was completed. This is the final step to a sovereign
nation.

BULLDOG AND OKIE POST 5 DEC

DEC.5, 2011
BULLDOG75/OKIE
Bulldog75: 3:33PM CST. WE ARE AWAITING THE PHONE CALL FOR CONFIRMATIONS. HOLD.
Bulldog75: WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS MAJOR ACTIVITY OCCURING IN THE MIDDLE EAST NOW. WE AWAIT THE PHONE CALL WHICH WE UNDERSTAND WILL BE COMING, MOMENTARILY. CBI MAY POSSIBLY POST THIS AT THEIR DELAYED DISCRETION. WE WAIT.


Bulldog75: WE ARE AWAYING FOR OTHER CONFIRMING PHONE CALLS. THANKS.
Bulldog75: PLEASE MONITOR YOUR CBI SITES. BBL. OKIE AND I ARE HERE. THANKS.
Bulldog75: OKIE ” I SEND MY LOVE TO EVERYONE. BULLDOG75 AND I AWAIT THE CONFIRMING PHONE CALL, WHICH SHOULD COME MOMENTARILY. WE ARE HERE. LET’S BE PATIENT AND WAIT”.
Bulldog75: THE INITIAL RING AT 3:33PM CST……………………
Bulldog75: WEAVER HECT : REMEMBER THAT 333. WE SHOULD GET A CONFIRMED WORD FIRST AND PROBABLY PRIOR TO ANY CBI POST. WE WAIT!
Bulldog75: THAT 333 WAS REFERRRING TO THE BULLDOG75 POST OF LAST MONTH REGARDING REPETITVE NUMBERS SHOWING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND MANY PEOPLE / MEMBERS SEEING IT. WE DID NOT KNOW HOW THE 333 WOULD FIT INTO THE EVENTUALLY ENDING STORY. WE JUST KNOW THE CALL CAME IN AT 3:33 PM CST.
.huckneworleans: God gives me that number almost every day 333 he has woken me up at 3:33am and said to me Trinity my grace is sufficant! I BELIEVE
Bulldog75: JEREMIAH 33:3 YES WAS A PART OF THE STORY!!!! YES, THANKS. OTHER MEMBERS AS WELL AS MYSELF KEPT SEEING OUR CLOCKS, STORE SIGNS, ODOMETERS, ETC SHOWING “333″ OR $3.33 OR SEQUENCE 333 ALL THE TIME. MY ODOMETER WAS STUCK ON A “333″ SEQUENCE FOR 3 MILES AND THEN JUMPED INTO NORMAL SEQUENCE. SEE HUCK’S COMMENT NOW.
Bulldog75: 4:45PM CST: ON PHONE WITH VIC1: SAYS TO EVERYONE “HELLO”. “WE STAY GROUNDED”. “CHINA KNOWS AND IS A HELPER”. “WE KEEP STRONG SURVELENCE ON IRAN”.

MORT POST 5 DEC

[mort] earlier talked with my international lawyer and he just told me they are waiitng for someone to put the rate onto the cbi and when thats done-9 banks here in the usa will receive it and then we can convert it-so whenever thats done hopefully today or in the am-we shall see!! Everything is done but putting the rate in!

LOJAK POST 5 DEC

[1and1] lojak Anything to share at this time?????
[Dimples] lojak do you know if we lost momentum?
[lojak] Ok, here is what eveyone needs to understand that so far I have notcied have not gotton “it”
[lojak] The intel gatherers are trying not to talk–they have gotton really good at what they do, so they are going to be very distant from now on I suspect [draavmorris2] lojak, please share and/or clarify. I have a splitting headache, so my thinking is off and a bit slow.

[lojak] The news has not changed at all, all is great. But they including Jonny are being purporsely vague
[rabbit1949] lojak why are they trying not to talk?
[lojak] does that make sense to everyone??????? ask me now or forever hold your peace
[tc0043] lojak the silence before the big bang? [lojak] conyea when you get too close to the sun you get burned right [bigkahounas1] lojak I agree
[lojak] anyway, I have not spoken to one person in the entire community today that know os any holdups [conyea] was talking to lojak about the silence… [billuke] lojak but why be vague? [lojak] not one
[/b][lojak] billuke The intel folks have been asked to be vague [booyahoo] lojak yet nothing has happened
[lojak] You just have to be patient…One of the things that is going on is security related in this country. I just had confirmed that the 3 lettter agencies are fanning out everywhere getting ready–why remember there are bad guys holding dinar in the USA too [rabbit1949] lojak WHO has asked them to be vague? I know you said the ptb, but who are they? [charjandes] ok, I don’t know if this is true but it is being talked about that the feds have asked all intel provider to “step back”….and the feds are watching the chat rooms….
[[lojak] rabbit1949 the folks that have helped us gather information have now asked that we stop talking [xfilesfan] lojak …thanks,,,makes sense
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[rabbit1949] lojak OK makes sense [[lojak] so someone just pm’d me from PTR asking about Tony’s demeaner on the call–he sounded donw. No , Tony ijnsude is happy, but he just has to curtail his talking for a while
[lojak] ALl you need to worry about is–well nothing. Just relax..I know after all this that it is hard to do. But until I hear of a problem–whi9ch I have not–we are just waiting … [lojak] I know big kahounas thinks thurs–so be it. Until i hear otherwise, you gusy be cool. I’ll let you know when to worry [[puttright] lojak I have been anxious to hear some confirmation to the Iraq borders getting ready to shut down. Have you heard anything along those lines? [lojak] puttright they are locked down and communication difficult I understand [[lojak] booyahoo I did not say thurs—at all [puttright] lojak I’ll take that as a real good thing…how about you [lojak] puttright y
[1and1] lojak I would hope it’s before Thursday
[lojak] 1and1 meeeeee tooooooo
[puttright] lojak do you know anything regarding documents being signed. Wondering if it has anything to do in lifting Iraq out of chapter 7
[b][lojak] puttright got some hot stuff comign it to work on seriously–bb asap

SONNY POST 5 DEC

1:18 AM [sonny1] howdy gang 11:18 AM [3KINGS] sonny1 hey 11:19 AM [myst] handy ty 11:19 AM [Ms.Bean] handy hello 11:19 AM [Ms.Bean] sonny1 hiya 11:19 AM [sonny1] before i tell you all what i heard, i just want to say dont buy more because of my info, i have been wrong many,many times 11:19 AM [Sunglass] hey everybody! 11:20 AM [3KINGS] sonny1 fire away captain 11:20 AM [sonny1] i just talked to my m.e friends and as most of you know, they are very, very good friends, with the editor of the khaleez times out of dubai 11:21 AM [Sunglass] sonny1 (wave to you) but dont let me interrpt 11:21 AM [sonny1] they are hearing, that there will be a rate change of the iraqi dinar by the second week of jan 2012 11:21 AM [handy] sonny1 did they hint at a rate? 11:21 AM [Sunglass] im ready for a rate change! 11:22 AM [sonny1] the hcl should be completely signed and posted in the gazzette in the next 7-10 days, then they will rv with-in 3 weeks of that date 11:22 AM [sonny1] handy no, to be honest i dont even care about rate anymore………just rv it…. 11:23 AM [Sunglass] me too S-1. Just RV already 11:23 AM [handy] sonny1 well ty , great news 11:23 AM [myst] sonny1 thank you 11:23 AM [sonny1] now i hope this works out 11:23 AM [Ms.Bean] sonny1 sonny1 e too 11:23 AM [Ms.Bean] Ms.Bean me* 11:23 AM [Ms.Bean] grrr 11:23 AM [Ms.Bean] Im so excited I can’t type 11:24 AM [sonny1] when it comes to rumors, and that is really what it is, these are the only people who might actually know 11:24 AM [sonny1] they arent like okie and those other idiots 11:24 AM [Sunglass] thank you for bringing that info sonny1 11:24 AM [Sunglass] whatever happend to TK? 11:24 AM [sonny1] they have been wrong before, but they have been right a few times as well 11:25 AM [myst] sonny1 do you think your dates may change??? or is that a solid date? 11:26 AM [Lacey] sonny1 TY for sharing 11:26 AM [sonny1] lets hope its true, later 11:26 AM [myst] sonny1 fingers crossed here 11:26 AM [TexasGranny] sonny1 can I post in forum 11:27 AM [Sunglass] sure you can TexasGranny 11:27 AM [Sunglass] that’ll liven things up a little over here

CAP1 CHAT 5 DEC

NOV.5,2011 (TS copy)

CAP1 from Old Chat

old chat 11/22/11 to 12/ 05/11

(CAP1] Just saw some information that the UST is still in lock down. You know they were
rate change.[CAP1] Just saw some information that the UST is still in lock down. You know they were
[martie] CAP1 Hammerman and Big PAt still fighting from the call last night saying no lower denoms released. Wang Dang from fresh's call say no lower denoms and not until RV so that is it . Pick your poison. LOL
[martie] CAP1 PS Big PAt also said no rv until the $100K notes are ready to be distributed. Blaino better find another xsource besides Big Pat as he was stuck on Dec 12 meeting and 100k notes. They are trying to get $25k notes out of circulation so where is his lo
[CAP1] martie -100,000 notes?! What!
[martie] CAP1 logic on that one. Hammerman was implying something this week also. so who in the heck has it right, NoBody

[CAP1] Those are only for inter banking uses and they have been printed since March from what I'm told.

[CAP1] Again, I'm not a guru. Just share what I get from phone calls, research, and other chat rooms.

[martie] CAP1 No kidding < $100K notes he was saying so as I said Blaino had these two guys arguing about stuff. Really off the wall.

[CAP1] If you listened to the PTR call closely yesterday, you would have to think that the lower denoms were being distributed or they are being positioned to be distributed. The one exception I take to that particular, and I don't know if it was viper ofr chief that made this statement, but one of them said that the lower denoms still had to be printed. That is not the case IMO, because they have already been delivered to the CBI earlier this year for distribution ot the Iraqi banks as well as merchants.

[CAP1] [jonnywg] well my friends yet again we come to the finish line with no results. I cannot express how disappointed i am for we holders of dinar. Our sources were positive that this was our time. Government sources felt that it was the end. My feelings and systems checks all pointed to an rv over the past week as there literally is nothing left to hold this UP.. I will promise you that i will do my best to find out what happened and what if anything went wrong. I thank you for being here and resolve to do better
[otsteve] I do dnot know if all the lower denom have been printed--I have a 50.00 as my lowest and I think they want lower

[otsteve] Also after the RV they are going to print new bills with three languages on them
[bigm] Cap1 do you believe we will see this rv before the of nov.
[CAP1] Both Scottig and Bulldog are still looking for it to happen at anytime. And they had good confirmations that the RV is in process.
[CAP1] bigm - I sure hope so! Can't see why they would need or want to hold this up.
[CAP1] johnnywg saying anytime, but UST is still in lockdown as soon as they finish we will see the RV still possible for today.
[CAP1] charps84 -I believe it means the same thing to them as it does to the rest of us. If the rates were again changed at the last minute ofr China's sake, which would be great for us, then the process would have to begin again..
[southaroilgroup] charps84 yes it does. BTW a Chase in NY also confirmed it with another member of our group
[charps84] I'm looking for this thing to pop today.
[charps84] Southaroilgroup, a friend of a family member has a contact in Iraq. Said it has definitely Rv'd over there. Said in the range of 3.50
commodity here right now.
[billuke] TS CAP1 it's about 800 entries per currency to input - there's 133 currencies.
[CAP1] [williamB] Breaking News 11/22/11 (CNBC): IMF to offer member nations new 1-2 year liquidity lines to "break chains of contagion" of up to 1000% of of member's quotas. .... Here's my question: (a) where is this liquidity coming from? and (b) how are the member nations gonna pay this back at TEN TIMES quota??? Hmmm..
[CAP1] bear5642: ok i know a lot are upset about info that was given last night [CAP1] This might be interesting: [Eagle Has Landed] in all FIVE Presidents were targeted for going against the Federal Reserve. 1) Andrew Jackson (Survived); 2) Abraham Lincoln; 3) James Garfield; 4) William McKinley; 5) John Kennedy. http://www.dailypaul.com ••• nk?sss=1
[CAP1] bear5642: ok i know a lot are upset about info that was given last night
[CAP1] few days and im still making plans to cash out soon
[CAP1] bear5642: we couldnt go into detail as to why we were told not by thanksgiving however it will be within a few days and im still making plans to cash out soon
[CAP1] bear5642: just be patient and it was really difficult for us to receive the delay also i can assure you, I need like everyone else
[CAP1] bear5642: it is not "o" please believe me, he has nothing to do with this delay. It is in iraq and it is a small delay.

[CAP1] bear5642: I hope this helps. I'm still dealing with an emergency myself and that has not been resolved and i'm here because i made a made a committment to miske, sambo and okie that no matter what we will be here.
[CAP1] bear5642: I have to go.

[CAP1] [jgable01] great day infront of us!!!!! 10:23 am CheckMate: please do yourselves a favor and just hold ON,....LET me fininsh this call and we will post a call in just a few. 30 min. Or so. Sorry about the spelling im not looking at my screen i'm typing and talking at the same time just trying to let you all know whats up. 10:25 am CheckMate: please no pm's everytime i am typing and not looking up my type ends up in a pm not in the text area and i have to start all over 10:26 am CheckMate: wish i could anser all you guys,...and gals you know i do like doing that it is just impossible for one person and get done the rest of the task 10:27 am CheckMate: ok i have not looked at any responces so please i have not ignored any one of you i have ignored you ALL,....
[CAP1] Capt Crunch -Things are starting to stir in the dinar intel land!
[CAP1] [perky] Hey guys, thought I would share something I think is cool. 4 of us dinarians got together about a week ago and were in prayer about the RV. We were shocked, the prayer was a little unexpected. It seemed to be more of a two way conversation than us all sending up our requests and not hearing anything back. The whole experience was down right exciting. We felt the Holy Spirit told us to call it a Kingdom Blessing and that we should pray against obstacles. Then He showed one of us removing boulders from a dam until the water could break through. Then He said the amount would be higher than they even thought it would be. What you say we all grab a rock and pull this dam down in Jesus name.
[CAP1] [DebTarHeelGirl] Tony tntdinar: There will be some updated info as well as some talk about the chat room. Please pass it along to others. Intel first and then the rest. tntdinar: Call at the top of the hour
[CAP1] [Capt Ron] Deb, it certainly looks like both Tony AND Dan heard something in the last hour or so that got them pretty excited (and overused word in this context I realize).
contractors have received an rv'd value for their dinar so yes
tfiji] CAP1 so do you believe that it RV'd in country? I find that hard to swallow with no proof, it would be very hard to hide that from the world.....what do you think??
[CAP1] [Tradewind] With all the great computers and I’m sure a skilled team doing it and only 133 countries --- why so long??? [jonnywg] tradewind - 800 entries per currency and then security encryption.
[bigtim] CAP1 ty
[CAP1] ttfiji - I believe it. There are too many people from various sources that have confirmed.
[CAP1] [tatiana01] Do you think UST will be done by Thanksgiving, so they can spend holiday with family? or if not take the day off then go back to it? [jonnywg] Nothing to do with it. They will not stop until done.
[ttfiji] CAP1 so I could fly to Iraq and cash in??
[CAP1] [Renster] I am hearing confirmations that big wigs have cashed out, can you comment on veracity of this? Special pre-negotiated smaller rates [jonnywg] renster – Yes, Germany UK.
CAP1] ttfiji - Now, how would I know that? Are their restrictions from the State Department preventing you freom flying in with your dinar. Check on that and get back to us.
[Capt Crunch] whats the number to the okie call last night please?
[CAP1] [jm44] Regarding the in-country with government employees and contractors, do you know their rate of exchange? Thank you [jonnywg] Yes - 3.75 and 4.40 USD
[CAP1] [hollyberry] Who gives the go signal is what I was asking. Do you know if it's O or Shabibi? [jonnywg] Neither now........all released in to UST
[CAP1] [illiniman] Can we assume that when UST comes out of lockdown, that we should see the RV shortly? [jonnywg] illiniman – Yes
[CAP1] [OK rocks] Yesterday you said today OR the 72 hours if enforced... just now you said 72 hrs Friday are over. Are there TWO 72 hour timeframes???? Thank you [jonnywg] ok rocks - No one period [jonnywg] LATEBREAKING NEWS: 72 hrs may not have started FRIDAY......We are researching
[CAP1] [Believer2] is it possible that all not citizens of Iraq are aware of the in country RV yet? [jonnywg] believer2 – Yes, almost for sure
[CAP1] [healthscans] - I was on several conference calls last night and they talked that it would not happen until Friday or the following week. What are your thoughts on that? [jonnywg] healthscan - Completely against my info............
[CAP1] [OKCBULLDOG] Jonny, when the UST was pulled off last week and then sent back in this last weekend, was that because of a rate change? Did they have to start over inputting different info? [jonnywg] okcbulldog - Rate change and thus new info to input start over

[CAP1] [gillsdinar] Jonny, thanks again for putting your heart and soul in this for all of us. Are the bank screens still 00.000? Thanks. [jonnywg] gillsdinar – Yes, banks are 00.0000
[CAP1] [imperium] We understood that the IMF, China, etc. were taking the bull by the horns and pushing this through NOW. What happened? [jonnywg] imperium - Still pushing now
[CAP1] [wewhoo] Jonny- First, thank you tons. Secondly, do you know the new CBI website info? [jonnywg] CBI new site will be forwarded to by old site to start
[silverfox] Is there any other delays or postponements when UST re-opens. It seems when ever a statment is made. Ex: "RV after US Treasury re-opens" is automatically recanted with a slue of new problems gurus or their sources didn't see or failed to report.
[CAP1] [azoldmom] Jonny, were you able to find out what the holdup is this morning???? and thank you!!! [jonnywg] azoldmom - Not yet UST working
[CAP1] [cosmoplayer] When did UST enter into the second lockdown? [jonnywg] 124 hours ago
[CAP1] [foggy01] Was there a third reading of the HCL? [jonnywg] - I know it was passed
[CAP1] [tampaguy] Which two of the four major banks should we have accounts at to be in position for your two bank packages please Thanks for all you do! [jonnywg] tampa - I have packages for CHASE and WF
[CAP1] [Canuckgirl] Jonny. Any thoughts on the auction being so low today? i.e., 103K as opposed to yesterday at 345K? [jonnywg] canuckgirl no
[CAP1] [texan1] jonny, your sources, do you have to call them or do they call you with info? [jonnywg] texan1 - Both
[CAP1] [tookie] Some time back I heard that the Global Settlements were going to be necessary for the US to be able to pay out all the money to satisfy dinar holders. Is this true or are they simply going to use digital currency? [jonnywg] tookie – Digital
silverfox] So, Is Iraq using both USD and IQD?
[CAP1] [oucrazy] Jonny, are you actually talking to someone in the lock down? [jonnywg] oucrazy – No one can talk that is locked down
[CAP1] silverfox -All USD supposedly pulled out over the last two weeks.
[silverfox] FANTASTIC!
[CAP1] [Digs] jonny, have you gone thru an currency RV in the past? and if so, is this standard operating procedure? [jonnywg] Yes, Kuwait - the same issues and misinfo
[CAP1] [mister dinar] Any idea why they changed the rate again? [jonnywg] misterdinar - O delayed and China/ Iraq renegotiated
[CAP1] [mister dinar] Any idea why they changed the rate again? [jonnywg] misterdinar - O delayed and China/ Iraq renegotiated
[CAP1] [willietrader] How long did it take in first lock down? [jonnywg] willietrader - Not resolved .... in the past - I can't remember but not this long
[CAP1] sonnayhwh] Is it a possibility this rv could release without the US? [jonnywg] sonnay - Yes
[CAP1] [charps84] Why are they in lockdown since everything's loaded? [jonnywg] charps84 - In lockdown to reload
[CAP1] [RCM] This morning I noticed a couple of articles where Iraq is asking for the US help to get completely out of Chapter 7, do you think they are waiting for this? [jonnywg] SHABIBI never ever stated that .... we are waiting for it to be over
[CAP1] [have faith] Do you feel that this delay has actually turned out to benefit us because of a higher rate? [jonnywg] have faith – Yes, but we are tired of the wait
[CAP1] [billuke] Will RV rate appear in banks & CBI at same time or banks first? [jonnywg] billuke – Should be both the same time
[CAP1] [kdes dinar] Jonny, we see the stock market dropping, gold dropping, silver steady, and oil raising. World crisis and disarray in most global markets. IMF slapped our hands as we are not doing enough. What would be the true indicators we should look for prior to an RV? [jonnywg] Stable dollar is the key - the others react
[CAP1] [sunnyg123] Did I understand that right, it is possible they could let other countries RV and leave the USA OUT of the cash-in loop? Forever? Thank you [jonnywg] sunny - Not a chance. Could be taken from Treasury then the BIS takes over and POSTS. USA picks it up.
[CAP1] [mamari4] Are you hopeful that today could be our day? [jonnywg] mamari4 – Yes
[CAP1] [lovely] Jonny, if everything is done done-done why the lockdown? So confused. [jonnywg] lovely - All calculations are made and done .... Now to input them
[CAP1] [LuckyStar08] do you think for any reason the government or O would try to prevent people with dinars to cash in? Thank you [jonnywg] luckystar- No
[CAP1] [Islander] Thanks for all you are doing in support. What is your cold opinion at this point regarding timing please? [jonnywg] islander - It is ready to rv anytime - no issues that i know.
[gracie] CAP1 wouldn't want to be that keyboard operator
[CAP1] [kdes dinar] Johnny - Who are we waiting on? the UST? IMF? Who will be pushing the button? Thank you! [jonnywg] UST is inputting then it is finished
[CAP1] [tc0043] Do you think they will release the rates when the banks open in Hawaii today? [jonnywg] I hope so
[CAP1] [JamJam] Did you find out what happened to not let the RV through this time? Thank you for all you do - we love you! [jonnywg] jamjam – My best guess is the UST is not done
[CAP1] [1buddydog] Do you know anything about the rumor/intel of the Iraqi banks or other business entities NOT being ready as "Chief" was stating last night in another chat room? Thanks for all you do and your tenacity in "get-r-dun." [jonnywg] Thanks to MIG, OOM and PTR for their support. [jonnywg] buddydog - Just rumor, no substance
[CAP1] [nmlobo] Jonny, your educated guess please. Would it be better to cash-in with banks or dealers? [jonnywg] nmlobo - Call everyone for a price then take the best
[CAP1] That's it..
[CAP1] PTR calls are usually on Mon, Wed, and Fri. Dan seems to be very happy. I'll try to bring some of the conversation over.
[CAP1] [apollo1] Dan is more optomistic now than ever - and Tony say we just need patience because it is happening
[CAP1] [RockDinars] Tony says we will all have a very nice Thanksgiving
[CAP1] [RockDinars] Not saying it would for sure happen by Thanksgiving but he feels it will...
http://www.okieoilman.net/t11923-bear4642-11-22-11#74646

[CAP1] Now, pay attention to the above post. Fox Biz is just now reporting the establishment of a "Fund" for Europe. Funny thing is, two weeks ago when the Euro Council was meeting late into the night and early morning, I was monitoring those meetings and they announced the same thing!
[CAP1] So, info is starting to leak out into the main press.
[CAP1] PTR call from just now 760 569 7699 PIN 867088#
http://www.okieoilman.net/t11928-credit-card-info-from-the-rabbi#74682
[CAP1] Tony: I do know that people are being ordered into their offices today(the Forex people)
[CAP1] Tony: Big word for today----JUST BE PATIENT!
[CAP1] Dan: "The news is really , really good! I am more excited than ever!
[CAP1] Tony: there some people locked down.
[CAP1] [jacque47] Jacque- I think we are finally there!!!! Here is why: 1. Iraq officially reached double digit inflation today. 2. Kuwait Rv'd on the 23rd of a month, and it was a Wednesday. 3. I have from 2 different sources, both with algorythem computors, that tomorrow, the 23rd, the stock market is gonna drop up to 900 pts, and recover back 800, ending 100 under. Gold is gonna drop $300! 4. I spoke with a gentleman from Iraq on the 3rd of Nov., who had previously held a high ranking office within the Gov/Banking system. He told me the MINIMUM till an rv was 2 weeks. That took us to the 18th, a Thursday, 19thand 20th is their weekend. So- IF they passed the laws needed, the first day parliment in session is the 20th. They would then have to post new laws in the paper for 3 days... making the first available date for a RV the .....wait for it...... NOVEMBER 23RD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING SAYS THE 23RD!!!!! RV BABY!!!!! Winalot
[CAP1] [angelofpeace] did get a call... reaffirms things already stated earlier today and still puts us in the windows for this happening any time going forward... no need to panic or get upset about the RV... other issues optional
[wmawhite] CAP1 .........it did not RV on the 23rd of the month.
[bobbydinaro] CAP1 Article on Dinar Daddy says inflation dropped to 6.9%. Smoke and mirrors? Your opinion please. Thanks
[CAP1] bobbydinaro -Haven't read that article. However, don't see how it could drop that much without [CAP1] [RockDinars] Tony says we will all have a very nice Thanksgiving
[CAP1] [RockDinars] Not saying it would for sure happen by Thanksgiving but he feels it will...
http://www.okieoilman.net/t11923-bear4642-11-22-11#74646

[CAP1] Now, pay attention to the above post. Fox Biz is just now reporting the establishment of a "Fund" for Europe. Funny thing is, two weeks ago when the Euro Council was meeting late into the night and early morning, I was monitoring those meetings and they announced the same thing!
[CAP1] So, info is starting to leak out into the main press.
[CAP1] PTR call from just now 760 569 7699 PIN 867088#
http://www.okieoilman.net/t11928-credit-card-info-from-the-rabbi#74682
[CAP1] Tony: I do know that people are being ordered into their offices today(the Forex people)
[CAP1] Tony: Big word for today----JUST BE PATIENT!
[CAP1] Dan: "The news is really , really good! I am more excited than ever!
[CAP1] Tony: there some people locked down.
[CAP1] [jacque47] Jacque- I think we are finally there!!!! Here is why: 1. Iraq officially reached double digit inflation today. 2. Kuwait Rv'd on the 23rd of a month, and it was a Wednesday. 3. I have from 2 different sources, both with algorythem computors, that tomorrow, the 23rd, the stock market is gonna drop up to 900 pts, and recover back 800, ending 100 under. Gold is gonna drop $300! 4. I spoke with a gentleman from Iraq on the 3rd of Nov., who had previously held a high ranking office within the Gov/Banking system. He told me the MINIMUM till an rv was 2 weeks. That took us to the 18th, a Thursday, 19thand 20th is their weekend. So- IF they passed the laws needed, the first day parliment in session is the 20th. They would then have to post new laws in the paper for 3 days... making the first available date for a RV the .....wait for it...... NOVEMBER 23RD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING SAYS THE 23RD!!!!! RV BABY!!!!! Winalot
[CAP1] [angelofpeace] did get a call... reaffirms things already stated earlier today and still puts us in the windows for this happening any time going forward... no need to panic or get upset about the RV... other issues optional
[wmawhite] CAP1 .........it did not RV on the 23rd of the month.
[bobbydinaro] CAP1 Article on Dinar Daddy says inflation dropped to 6.9%. Smoke and mirrors? Your opinion please. Thanks
[CAP1] bobbydinaro -Haven't read that article. However, don't see how it could drop that much without [CAP1] [RockDinars] Tony says we will all have a very nice Thanksgiving
[CAP1] [RockDinars] Not saying it would for sure happen by Thanksgiving but he feels it will...
http://www.okieoilman.net/t11923-bear4642-11-22-11#74646

[CAP1] Now, pay attention to the above post. Fox Biz is just now reporting the establishment of a "Fund" for Europe. Funny thing is, two weeks ago when the Euro Council was meeting late into the night and early morning, I was monitoring those meetings and they announced the same thing!
[CAP1] So, info is starting to leak out into the main press.
[CAP1] PTR call from just now 760 569 7699 PIN 867088#
http://www.okieoilman.net/t11928-credit-card-info-from-the-rabbi#74682
[CAP1] Tony: I do know that people are being ordered into their offices today(the Forex people)
[CAP1] Tony: Big word for today----JUST BE PATIENT!
[CAP1] Dan: "The news is really , really good! I am more excited than ever!
[CAP1] Tony: there some people locked down.
[CAP1] [jacque47] Jacque- I think we are finally there!!!! Here is why: 1. Iraq officially reached double digit inflation today. 2. Kuwait Rv'd on the 23rd of a month, and it was a Wednesday. 3. I have from 2 different sources, both with algorythem computors, that tomorrow, the 23rd, the stock market is gonna drop up to 900 pts, and recover back 800, ending 100 under. Gold is gonna drop $300! 4. I spoke with a gentleman from Iraq on the 3rd of Nov., who had previously held a high ranking office within the Gov/Banking system. He told me the MINIMUM till an rv was 2 weeks. That took us to the 18th, a Thursday, 19thand 20th is their weekend. So- IF they passed the laws needed, the first day parliment in session is the 20th. They would then have to post new laws in the paper for 3 days... making the first available date for a RV the .....wait for it...... NOVEMBER 23RD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING SAYS THE 23RD!!!!! RV BABY!!!!! Winalot
[CAP1] [angelofpeace] did get a call... reaffirms things already stated earlier today and still puts us in the windows for this happening any time going forward... no need to panic or get upset about the RV... other issues optional
[wmawhite] CAP1 .........it did not RV on the 23rd of the month.
[bobbydinaro] CAP1 Article on Dinar Daddy says inflation dropped to 6.9%. Smoke and mirrors? Your opinion please. Thanks
[CAP1] bobbydinaro -Haven't read that article. However, don't see how it could drop that much without an RV.
[wmawhite] by the way March 24, 1991 was a SUNDAY!!!!!
[wmawhite] Customers will be allowed to withdraw funds and to swap pre-invasion money for a new currency issued to make more than $1 billion in pre-invasion dinars stolen by the Iraqis worthless. "We expect a rush of people," said Issam Asousi, an executive with the
[wmawhite] Crush Expected When Kuwaiti Banks Reopen Today March 24, 1991|From Reuters KUWAIT CITY, Kuwait — Thousands of Kuwaitis are expected to jam the country's banks today when they open for the first time since the end of the Iraqi occupation.
[wmawhite] Customers will be allowed to withdraw funds and to swap pre-invasion money for a new currency issued to make more than $1 billion in pre-invasion dinars stolen by the Iraqis worthless. "We expect a rush of people," said Issam Asousi, an executive with the
[wmawhite] an executive with the Bank of Kuwait. He said it could be a chaotic first week because customers have a lot of questions about their accounts.
[wmawhite] Kuwaiti banks continued operating during the seven-month Iraqi occupation under managers brought in from Iraq, but they have been closed since the U.S.-led alliance ousted the Iraqi army from Kuwait a month ago.
[wmawhite] When the banks reopen today, customers will be able to withdraw up to 4,000 Kuwaiti dinars, equivalent to about $14,000 at pre-invasion exchange rates from their accounts, and to exchange a like amount for foreign currency.
Aug. 1, a day before the invasion.
[wmawhite] Clients will not be able to exchange Iraqi currency issued during the occupation, when Baghdad pegged the rates of the strong Kuwaiti dinar to the far less valuable Iraqi dinar.
.[wmawhite] The new Kuwaiti money will be exchanged for old at a one-to-one rate.
[wmawhite] http://articles.latimes. ••• ti-banks
[wmawhite] That is it.
[CAP1] Dan has heard information that will knock your socks off!
[CAP1] rgs -He says what's going on right now is non reversable!
[CAP1] He's heard things today that is at a whole different level.
[CAP1] Tony: It is really all good stuff!
[CAP1] [bookings] rv's a coming, rv's a coming be at banks tommorrow because rv's a coming. Have a great day because rv's a coming. Gotta run, lots to do!!!!!!
[CAP1] [sisterbreen] bookings r u sure
[CAP1] [bookings] yes, yes, yes, yes
[CAP1] Dan: And you know me, I don't usually say those things.
[CAP1] Dan: I think not sharing the information is "sharing" the information with . We are super, super close.
[CAP1] Dan: We are extremely close.....you should be excited!
[CAP1] Now, to me, that speaks volumes!!!!
[CAP1] Lifesagent -I'd have to listen again, but I was under the impression that both he and scottieg said to be looking for it at anytime.[morocho0007] Cap1 Bookings have a great source did she mention anything else?? Thanks!!!!
[Lifesagent] CAP1 ----ok thx..............i actually just want to know ONE thing only......did bear say this week or next week as to which one is more likely
[CAP1] [fund] Are you kidding me...general concensus...Geithner's going to address the Treasury Troops : Have a look here people and smile : Daily Treasury Guidance For Tuesday, November 22, 2011 On Tuesday, Secretary Geithner will conduct meetings at Treasury. He has no public events. In the morning, Deputy Secretary Wolin will attend the Vice President’s regular meeting of senior officials to assess progress in Iraq. This meeting is closed press. http://www.treasury.gov/ ••• 011.aspx
[CAP1] [dsatmhk7] Hammerman] dam it feels good to be me m,,,,,,,, everthing is still on track all is positive lets keep it that way ,,, im here for yall pretty certain all my stuff is fact ,,thats how i roll ,,,this is not a exact thing ,, this changes every min. ;;;; most intel people are doing there best ,,]] konow please we are really close ,,keep the energy up in here ,,,,,,,,please please dont let some lost souls bring ya down ,,,, im here the sereve an love yall an its a great honor to beable to share the best of best intel to yalll it all still great , great ,,,,,,live ,,,llove ,,,an learn
http://www.okieoilman.net/t11932-bear5642-q-a-session#74701
[TS] BEAR5642: ok let me calm everyone down and dont ask something that has already been said cek15: Bear, I liked Medic's comment earlier, when he said "he had no friggin clue" found it honest and refreshing, what do think of it? BEAR5642: well we do have information as to what is actually going on regardless of what someone else would say and its not political BEAR5642: you know us we dont make excuses or give false hope it is a matter of simple economics if that helps rmoney: bear - just tell me when i'm going to get my new bass boat with our blessing........ thank you for all you do.... BEAR5642: rmoney i hope and believe it well go now in just a few days and dont see this going past next friday it can actually happen this friday Hey Bear...I just wanted to say great call last night!! Thanks for all you, ScottiG, Bulldog75, Okie and all the mods do for us. The call was encouraging, good information that makes sense and didn't upset me at all. Thanks again!!! BEAR5642: rcsugar if okie calls tell him i tried to call him back and i missed his call this morning rcsugar: will be glad to teachergirl1: Is there a way we can .learn what has happened when this is all done?

SMOKE-What is YOUR opinion now-I just got back on line.
[TS] BEAR5642: klyetex thank you sooo much we need to hear that it been tough for everyone and im still dealing with a family emergency however im here for yall also BEAR5642: teachergirl1 i give my word to give a full explanation and bulldog75 is actually making a motion picture about all of this Mountain-Mama: Bear~Thanks for honoring us with a Cc from our site last night...Good work...IYO, who is really responsible for pushing this through? BEAR5642: SHABIBI PERIOD ram1: Are you still flying over with in your 747? BEAR5642: RAM1 HAVE PRIVATE JET ON STANDBY AND IM SOOOO READY TO CASH OUT teachergirl1: I hope you are not sacrificing time with the family. We will be here. God bless your family and I pray all is well. teachergirl1: How is making a motion picture helping all of us lay low? BEAR5642: POST RV DAUUUUGH kdes dinar: Hi Where will we actually see this appear? CBI, IMF, Local Banks? In your opinion what is the delay? Thank you! : BEAR5642: CBI THEN BANKS BEAR5642: KDES DINAR THEY PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE READ BETWEEN THE LINES teachergirl1: Not duh. I have no plan to tell anyone where the wealth comes from. Won't that give the bad guys a target? BEAR5642: TEACHERGIRL THEY GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME TAKEN OUT 3,000,000 PEOPLE HAHA kdes dinar: When is the New Year in Iraq? BEAR5642: NO COMMENT BEAR do you plan to cash out in another country or are you private jetting to a certain state here? : BEAR5642: IF I SAY NO COMMENT MEANS ITS NOT IMPORTANT BEAR5642: TOLDYASO GOOD OLD USA barnone267: Thanks for keeping us grounded BEAR BEAR5642: BARNONE267 THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

[TS] bear do u think anything can stop this and make it go into Dec. we have been told by u that this should b our week, not being critical just curious if u think it could change again from what u and scottg r hearing thanks BEAR5642: RJG GOOD QUESTION I DONT SE IT GOING PAST DECEMBER ABSOLUTELY NOT IT IS A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED AND THEY ARE WORKING ON IT CANT SAY MUSH MORE THOUGH oxenjockey: I would like to know what denomination your church is? BEAR5642: OK I HOPE IVE BEEN OF HELP TO EVERYONE DelawareMeMom: Bear, please tell Okie that I planted a tree in Israel for him and I placed his name in the stones of the Western Wall while praying for him there. He will know about this. BEAR5642: OXENJOCKEY NON DENOMINATIONAL FULL GOSPEL Toldyaso: YES you have TY and TY for last night BEAR5642: DELAWAREMEMOM I MOST CERATINLY WILL Chuck7479: Bear, do you think it will go before Friday? BEAR5642: CHUCK7479 IT IS POSSIBLE Chuck7479: TY LSU TIGER: Bear what do you think the USD will do post RV and also afterwards? BEAR5642: LSU TIGER IT WILL TURN FOR THE GOOD AND THEN TAKE A HIT Toldyaso: Bear you think it could easily go past November you said. Just present opinion? BEAR5642: THE IQD WILL PEG TO THE US DOLLAR I DONT CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS kdes dinar: So you believe this is going into December but not January correct? BEAR5642: TOLDYASO IT COULD GO TO NEXT WEEK rjg: thanks for everything bear have a great day and may God bless u and your family for the holiday LSU TIGER: What time frame or window do you think we have to call him back and i missed his call this morning rcsugar: will be glad to teachergirl1: Is there a way we can .learn what has happened when this is all done?

SMOKE-What is YOUR opinion now-I just got back on line.
[TS] BEAR5642: klyetex thank you sooo much we need to hear that it been tough for everyone and im still dealing with a family emergency however im here for yall also BEAR5642: teachergirl1 i give my word to give a full explanation and bulldog75 is actually making a motion picture about all of this Mountain-Mama: Bear~Thanks for honoring us with a Cc from our site last night...Good work...IYO, who is really responsible for pushing this through? BEAR5642: SHABIBI PERIOD ram1: Are you still flying over with in your 747? BEAR5642: RAM1 HAVE PRIVATE JET ON STANDBY AND IM SOOOO READY TO CASH OUT teachergirl1: I hope you are not sacrificing time with the family. We will be here. God bless your family and I pray all is well. teachergirl1: How is making a motion picture helping all of us lay low? BEAR5642: POST RV DAUUUUGH kdes dinar: Hi Where will we actually see this appear? CBI, IMF, Local Banks? In your opinion what is the delay? Thank you! : BEAR5642: CBI THEN BANKS BEAR5642: KDES DINAR THEY PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE READ BETWEEN THE LINES teachergirl1: Not duh. I have no plan to tell anyone where the wealth comes from. Won't that give the bad guys a target? BEAR5642: TEACHERGIRL THEY GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME TAKEN OUT 3,000,000 PEOPLE HAHA kdes dinar: When is the New Year in Iraq? BEAR5642: NO COMMENT BEAR do you plan to cash out in another country or are you private jetting to a certain state here? : BEAR5642: IF I SAY NO COMMENT MEANS ITS NOT IMPORTANT BEAR5642: TOLDYASO GOOD OLD USA barnone267: Thanks for keeping us grounded BEAR BEAR5642: BARNONE267 THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

[TS] bear do u think anything can stop this and make it go into Dec. we have been told by u that this should b our week, not being critical just curious if u think it could change again from what u and scottg r hearing thanks BEAR5642: RJG GOOD QUESTION I DONT SE IT GOING PAST DECEMBER ABSOLUTELY NOT IT IS A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED AND THEY ARE WORKING ON IT CANT SAY MUSH MORE THOUGH oxenjockey: I would like to know what denomination your church is? BEAR5642: OK I HOPE IVE BEEN OF HELP TO EVERYONE DelawareMeMom: Bear, please tell Okie that I planted a tree in Israel for him and I placed his name in the stones of the Western Wall while praying for him there. He will know about this. BEAR5642: OXENJOCKEY NON DENOMINATIONAL FULL GOSPEL Toldyaso: YES you have TY and TY for last night BEAR5642: DELAWAREMEMOM I MOST CERATINLY WILL Chuck7479: Bear, do you think it will go before Friday? BEAR5642: CHUCK7479 IT IS POSSIBLE Chuck7479: TY LSU TIGER: Bear what do you think the USD will do post RV and also afterwards? BEAR5642: LSU TIGER IT WILL TURN FOR THE GOOD AND THEN TAKE A HIT Toldyaso: Bear you think it could easily go past November you said. Just present opinion? BEAR5642: THE IQD WILL PEG TO THE US DOLLAR I DONT CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS kdes dinar: So you believe this is going into December but not January correct? BEAR5642: TOLDYASO IT COULD GO TO NEXT WEEK rjg: thanks for everything bear have a great day and may God bless u and your family for the holiday LSU TIGER: What time frame or window do you think we have to place our wealth in the proper places? BEAR5642: AFTER RV 30 DAYS BEAR5642: OK I HAVE TO NOW GOD BLESS BEAR5642: I LOVE EVERYONE IN OKIES HOUSE I HOPE EVRYONE UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF COMMITTMENT WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL AND NEVCER FORGET THAT SCOTTIG HAS SOME OF THE BEST AND MOST ACCURATE INFO OUT THERE WE WILL TELL YOU ALTER WHO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO
[CAP1] [Precious] China, Hong Kong double size of currency swap to CNY400 billion. *The agreement is part of Beijing's plan to expand the offshore yuan pool. *Move comes as the growth in yuan deposits in Hong Kong has slowed. *Banks are unlikely to tap yuan funds through the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, analysts said. Shanghai, China and Hong Kong said Tuesday they have doubled the value of a currency swap to CNY400 billion ($63 billion) as Beijing seeks to expand the pool of yuan traded offshore.
[CAP1] [Precious] Tuesday, November 22, 2011 Africa ~ Currency: Proposed Devaluation Of Naira By IMF, A Deservice To Nigerian Economy ...
[CAP1] [Precious] IMF expert to further devalue the naira was a diplomatic way of calling off the bluff of the financial institution from arrogating to itself, as the only organisation which has the sole antidote to solve the economic problem of Nigeria which it actually caused in the first instance in 1986 and which has refused to abate up till today.
[CAP1] [Precious] In fact, all Nigeria’s economic woes that have become pandemic was as a result of the stupid acceptance of the illogical proposition of IMF to devalue the strong naira currency.
[CAP1] [Precious] devalued this one [Precious] The so-called IMF financial experts merely used Nigeria as one of guinea pigs to experiment their new found economic sabotage to impoverish those developing countries that acceded to their new monetary policy. [Precious] The devaluation of the local currency was not based on any known international economic indicators as nobody could explain how CBN arrived at the black market price to determine the value and devaluation of the naira.
[CAP1] Well, the above posts point to something regarding revaluation of currency. We knew that all currencies would not be revalued at a higher rate. The above is an example of a currency that was devalued.(with respect to Niberia)
[CAP1] [Precious] The Reserve Bank of India (RBI), which usually intervenes to curb excess volatility, has been reluctant to step in and support the beleaguered currency. Subir Gokarn, a deputy governor at the central bank, said last week the RBI would be careful about using foreign exchange reserves aggressively to protect the rupee's depreciation
[CAP1] [Precious] The shift of credit from foreign currency to rupee has added to squeeze of rupee liquidity. Both these factors would limit the RBI's ability to intervene both in the spot and forward market," he added
[CAP1] Many, many articles concerning currency and monetary policy are hitting the streets.

place our wealth in the proper places? BEAR5642: AFTER RV 30 DAYS BEAR5642: OK I HAVE TO NOW GOD BLESS BEAR5642: I LOVE EVERYONE IN OKIES HOUSE I HOPE EVRYONE UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF COMMITTMENT WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL AND NEVCER FORGET THAT SCOTTIG HAS SOME OF THE BEST AND MOST ACCURATE INFO OUT THERE WE WILL TELL YOU ALTER WHO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO
[CAP1] [Precious] China, Hong Kong double size of currency swap to CNY400 billion. *The agreement is part of Beijing's plan to expand the offshore yuan pool. *Move comes as the growth in yuan deposits in Hong Kong has slowed. *Banks are unlikely to tap yuan funds through the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, analysts said. Shanghai, China and Hong Kong said Tuesday they have doubled the value of a currency swap to CNY400 billion ($63 billion) as Beijing seeks to expand the pool of yuan traded offshore.
[CAP1] [Precious] Tuesday, November 22, 2011 Africa ~ Currency: Proposed Devaluation Of Naira By IMF, A Deservice To Nigerian Economy ...
[CAP1] [Precious] IMF expert to further devalue the naira was a diplomatic way of calling off the bluff of the financial institution from arrogating to itself, as the only organisation which has the sole antidote to solve the economic problem of Nigeria which it actually caused in the first instance in 1986 and which has refused to abate up till today.
[CAP1] [Precious] In fact, all Nigeria’s economic woes that have become pandemic was as a result of the stupid acceptance of the illogical proposition of IMF to devalue the strong naira currency.
[CAP1] [Precious] devalued this one [Precious] The so-called IMF financial experts merely used Nigeria as one of guinea pigs to experiment their new found economic sabotage to impoverish those developing countries that acceded to their new monetary policy. [Precious] The devaluation of the local currency was not based on any known international economic indicators as nobody could explain how CBN arrived at the black market price to determine the value and devaluation of the naira.
[CAP1] Well, the above posts point to something regarding revaluation of currency. We knew that all currencies would not be revalued at a higher rate. The above is an example of a currency that was devalued.(with respect to Niberia)
[CAP1] [Precious] The Reserve Bank of India (RBI), which usually intervenes to curb excess volatility, has been reluctant to step in and support the beleaguered currency. Subir Gokarn, a deputy governor at the central bank, said last week the RBI would be careful about using foreign exchange reserves aggressively to protect the rupee's depreciation
[CAP1] [Precious] The shift of credit from foreign currency to rupee has added to squeeze of rupee liquidity. Both these factors would limit the RBI's ability to intervene both in the spot and forward market," he added
[CAP1] Many, many articles concerning currency and monetary policy are hitting the streets.
place our wealth in the proper places? BEAR5642: AFTER RV 30 DAYS BEAR5642: OK I HAVE TO NOW GOD BLESS BEAR5642: I LOVE EVERYONE IN OKIES HOUSE I HOPE EVRYONE UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF COMMITTMENT WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL AND NEVCER FORGET THAT SCOTTIG HAS SOME OF THE BEST AND MOST ACCURATE INFO OUT THERE WE WILL TELL YOU ALTER WHO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO
[CAP1] [Precious] China, Hong Kong double size of currency swap to CNY400 billion. *The agreement is part of Beijing's plan to expand the offshore yuan pool. *Move comes as the growth in yuan deposits in Hong Kong has slowed. *Banks are unlikely to tap yuan funds through the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, analysts said. Shanghai, China and Hong Kong said Tuesday they have doubled the value of a currency swap to CNY400 billion ($63 billion) as Beijing seeks to expand the pool of yuan traded offshore.
[CAP1] [Precious] Tuesday, November 22, 2011 Africa ~ Currency: Proposed Devaluation Of Naira By IMF, A Deservice To Nigerian Economy ...
[CAP1] [Precious] IMF expert to further devalue the naira was a diplomatic way of calling off the bluff of the financial institution from arrogating to itself, as the only organisation which has the sole antidote to solve the economic problem of Nigeria which it actually caused in the first instance in 1986 and which has refused to abate up till today.
[CAP1] [Precious] In fact, all Nigeria’s economic woes that have become pandemic was as a result of the stupid acceptance of the illogical proposition of IMF to devalue the strong naira currency.
[CAP1] [Precious] devalued this one [Precious] The so-called IMF financial experts merely used Nigeria as one of guinea pigs to experiment their new found economic sabotage to impoverish those developing countries that acceded to their new monetary policy. [Precious] The devaluation of the local currency was not based on any known international economic indicators as nobody could explain how CBN arrived at the black market price to determine the value and devaluation of the naira.
[CAP1] Well, the above posts point to something regarding revaluation of currency. We knew that all currencies would not be revalued at a higher rate. The above is an example of a currency that was devalued.(with respect to Niberia)
[CAP1] [Precious] The Reserve Bank of India (RBI), which usually intervenes to curb excess volatility, has been reluctant to step in and support the beleaguered currency. Subir Gokarn, a deputy governor at the central bank, said last week the RBI would be careful about using foreign exchange reserves aggressively to protect the rupee's depreciation
[CAP1] [Precious] The shift of credit from foreign currency to rupee has added to squeeze of rupee liquidity. Both these factors would limit the RBI's ability to intervene both in the spot and forward market," he added
[CAP1] Many, many articles concerning currency and monetary policy are hitting the streets.

[CAP1] [ZMAN2011] 5:43 PM [AndieZ1] Any questions that don't go through the mods will not be answered 5:43 PM [jonnywg] rv should be any time today or tomorrow
[CAP1] [Precious] November 21, 2011 Egypt unrest may hasten currency crisis Violent unrest in Egypt threatens to accelerate the country's slide toward a currency crisis, forcing a sharp depreciation of the Egyptian pound in coming months and conceivably prompting Cairo to impose capital controls
[CAP1] [ZMAN2011] 5:51 PM [iqdgranny] How many currencies were effected by the US delay, other than Viet Nam Dong? 5:51 PM [Eagle Has Landed] AndieZ1 asked me a DIRECT question. It would have been rude to NOT answer him. I have not desire to cut in line. But I will always be a gentleman when spoken to, 5:51 PM [jonnywg] dimples 133 countries 5:51 PM [Rose] what is your biggest reason for feeling good about rv soon. 5:51 PM [AndieZ1] Eagle has Landed - stop posting
[CAP1] [ZMAN2011] 5:52 PM [jonnywg] flameon. It is hard for me to think that they can come up wit more delays....all isdone
[CAP1] [Precious] Egypt turned down the offer of a $3.2 billion financing facility from the International Monetary Fund this summer, partly, officials indicated privately, because of national pride. The then finance minister said Egypt’s ruling military did not want to build up debts.
[CAP1] [Precious] If pressure on the pound continues to increase, authorities may impose capital controls, he said, though officials have denied any intention to do so. If that does not work, Egypt may be forced to let the pound fall; Citigroup thinks the pound may depreciate between 20 and 25 percent in 2012.
[CAP1] [bookings] johnny is right i've set here for 2 hours trying to telleveryone with out just coming out and saying it, but what did i get for it. I rest my case.!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CAP1] [Precious] As of November 18, 2011 the RV-O-Meter remains at a high-grade warning to “Prepare for Cash In” The web’ s first and only RV-O-Meter remains at a weighted confidence level of 99.1%; The highest recorded level ever on the RV-O-Meter to date. The RV-O-Meter is adjusted based on positive or negative significant events, achievements, and confidence levels. Key events taking place •Iraq inflation •Conducive talks between GOI and Kurds over HCL law •Maliki to visit White House November 15 •Maliki to visit Kuwait (Nov/Dec..Unknown Date) •UNAMI’s top priority is Iraq-Kuwait relations •US troops nearly withdrawn from Iraq •UN states Iraq will be a oil power •Discussion increases regarding currency reform •Minister of Finance visits head of WTO in Geneva •Shabibi and Minister of Finance Issawi attends economic conference at UN in Geneva •International Red Cross conference in Geneva ends with tripartite agreement on Missing Kuwaitis

http://www.okieoilman.net/t11949-latest-from-scottig#74762

[CAP1] [ZMAN2011] 5:43 PM [AndieZ1] Any questions that don't go through the mods will not be answered 5:43 PM [jonnywg] rv should be any time today or tomorrow
[CAP1] [Precious] November 21, 2011 Egypt unrest may hasten currency crisis Violent unrest in Egypt threatens to accelerate the country's slide toward a currency crisis, forcing a sharp depreciation of the Egyptian pound in coming months and conceivably prompting Cairo to impose capital controls
[CAP1] [ZMAN2011] 5:51 PM [iqdgranny] How many currencies were effected by the US delay, other than Viet Nam Dong? 5:51 PM [Eagle Has Landed] AndieZ1 asked me a DIRECT question. It would have been rude to NOT answer him. I have not desire to cut in line. But I will always be a gentleman when spoken to, 5:51 PM [jonnywg] dimples 133 countries 5:51 PM [Rose] what is your biggest reason for feeling good about rv soon. 5:51 PM [AndieZ1] Eagle has Landed - stop posting
[CAP1] [ZMAN2011] 5:52 PM [jonnywg] flameon. It is hard for me to think that they can come up wit more delays....all isdone
[CAP1] [Precious] Egypt turned down the offer of a $3.2 billion financing facility from the International Monetary Fund this summer, partly, officials indicated privately, because of national pride. The then finance minister said Egypt’s ruling military did not want to build up debts.
[CAP1] [Precious] If pressure on the pound continues to increase, authorities may impose capital controls, he said, though officials have denied any intention to do so. If that does not work, Egypt may be forced to let the pound fall; Citigroup thinks the pound may depreciate between 20 and 25 percent in 2012.
[CAP1] [bookings] johnny is right i've set here for 2 hours trying to telleveryone with out just coming out and saying it, but what did i get for it. I rest my case.!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CAP1] [Precious] As of November 18, 2011 the RV-O-Meter remains at a high-grade warning to “Prepare for Cash In” The web’ s first and only RV-O-Meter remains at a weighted confidence level of 99.1%; The highest recorded level ever on the RV-O-Meter to date. The RV-O-Meter is adjusted based on positive or negative significant events, achievements, and confidence levels. Key events taking place •Iraq inflation •Conducive talks between GOI and Kurds over HCL law •Maliki to visit White House November 15 •Maliki to visit Kuwait (Nov/Dec..Unknown Date) •UNAMI’s top priority is Iraq-Kuwait relations •US troops nearly withdrawn from Iraq •UN states Iraq will be a oil power •Discussion increases regarding currency reform •Minister of Finance visits head of WTO in Geneva •Shabibi and Minister of Finance Issawi attends economic conference at UN in Geneva •International Red Cross conference in Geneva ends with tripartite agreement on Missing Kuwaitis

http://www.okieoilman.net/t11949-latest-from-scottig#74762
ngodstrust] CAP1 Wait i am lost - please explain how i get to the 5.5 mil cap?
[Diamondsr4ever] CAP1 thaCAP1 t sounds good TY
[CAP1] There are many different types of annuities out there. I choose to write " fixed annuities", those that when purchased can never lose value and always earn interest.
[ngodstrust] CAP1 WoW now that is great
[ngodstrust] CAP1 so lets say i get one with 500k who does that work ?
[CAP1] ngodstrust -Divide $5,000,000.00 by $13,000.00 and that is the number of people or entities that you can gift over a lifetime.
[ngodstrust] how
[ngodstrust] CAP1 - thanks
[dinarchaser] CAP1 For those people interested in irrevocable business trusts, you can contact Jim Jenkins. If you Google him, you'll find his website. Don't be alarmed when it mentions he's a musician, because he is, and a good one
[Cdoc] What are the current rate on a fixed annuity?
[CAP1] I have a client that gave me 500,000.00 dollars three years ago. We put it into an Equity indexed Annuity. It's still a fixed annuity, so he can never lose any principle, he earns a minimum interest guarantee, and he has the opportunity to "tie" his principle to certain indexes without danger to his principle.
[ngodstrust] CAP1 Wow - so ballpark speaking what is the return on that investment ?
[CAP1] For example, he gave me $500,000.00. It was a rollover from an existing 401K plan. This can be done using new monet like the RV'd dinar too. I immediately was able to give him under this contract a 10% bonus on his money just for investing in that particular anuity contract.
[CAP1] So his contract came back , not with the initial $500,000 but with $550,000.00.
[CAP1] Now that's just the start. he's guaranteed 2% earnings on his contract each and every year for up to 16 years if he wants, plus he get's to participate in the index market.
[Cdoc] 2% isn't that great
[CAP1] The first year of his contract he made 17.85 % return on the $550,000.00. An exceptional year, but the market had bottomed out in 2008.
[CAP1] He is aslo guaranteed an 8% return on what we call a lifetime income benefit rider, which means at the end of 10 years, he can draw a minimun of $88,000 per year for the rest of his life and his spous'es life. If the funds in the contract run out after his death while the spouse is receiving her payments, the contract continues to pay her the SAME amount until her death.
[CAP1] He gave me $500,000 and in 10 years his account will equal under the Lifetime benefit rider option.......$1,350,000.00
[CAP1] ngodstrust -he chooses to get paid annually or monthly.
CAP1] hope44 -great question. Make sure the monthly admin charges aren't much. I'm looking for ISWLP policies for my estate planning pruposes. Folks, those are policies whereby you pay one premium and your done.BTW, the plan has immediate cash values whereby you can get loans from if needed.
[CAP1] Remember, in the event of your death, you can transfer your estate to your spouse. It's called an unlimited marital deduction. So, estate taxes aren't due at your death. But they will be at your spouses death, and they can be up to 55% of your total estate. If you have no spouse, Uncle Sam will want and require as much as 55% of your total estate within 9 months of the date of your death. that's why life insurance is so important. It can be used to cover that estate tax cost.
CAP1] ISWLP = interest sensitve whole life policies
[ayechief] papatom yes- great company in houston. Oil is big too because of the tax breaks for investors.
[CAP1] Diamondsr4ever -That's what an ISWLP is. it just affords you more of an opportunity to make more interest. A SPWLP or single premium whole life policy is terrific too.
[CAP1] papatom -You are correct. It's called a term for life, which means the insurance company projects the total cost of the plan based on your age and health. there is no cash value in the plan, but still a great tool.
[CAP1] Remember use life insurance to pay the estate taxes. why take from your children 100 % dollars, which you could have taken care of by using oonly about 2% per year of your total estate.
[CAP1] billuke - I am setting up individual trusts for my children, my foundation, my personal belongings. This keeps the people that want to sue you from getting at all of your money.
[billuke] CAP1 would you have one for a car, your house, etc?
[CAP1] ayechief -Love that first right of refusal. Protects the initial investors.
[Diamondsr4ever] Rockefellers, Duponts, Morgans, Rothchilds and all the rest
[CAP1] Diamondsr4ever -Exactly
[spot] A trust for each family member how much can I put n each one
[purplehelmet300] Im still hearing very good things! Hope you all are too!
[purplehelmet300] I'm hearing this is a very good week for us and a very good rate.
[CAP1] purplehelmet300 -Now....That's what I'm talkin about!
[purplehelmet300] Yes, please dont worry! This week nice high rate! Sorry I cant stay but Im on at 11pm!
[purplehelmet300] Yes, please dont worry! This week nice high rate! Sorry I cant stay but Im on at 11pm!
[CAP1] hey, the good news is that this week is half over!! Go RV!!!
[purplehelmet300] Hope you guys are ok - I know this is stressful!
[ngodstrust] purplehelmet300 Its all good
[purplehelmet300] Thanks all - hang in - I hear we are done!
[mrsred] papajack: Some say as soon as IT guy lockdown is over it is done and the 72 hour thing is over and they are on a 24 extension to complete loading rates.

[CAP1] AJ Anderson's post in OOM forum Tue morning ( good read) 11/22/2011 We are in a good window of opportunity for this RV thing to happen, but that does not mean it will happen, due to the negotiation’s that are now taking place with all countries hedging one another to find some balance. Some are not pleased and some are very happy. Here's a piece of intel I am aware of that I have been holding back since yesterday. I was headed to town to take care of some business and on the radio international news was talking about Maliki being in China. The radio stated "China told Maliki that, we are not going to do business with you until you revalue your money". WOW, I said to myself, I need to check into this! I have known since last summer that BIG lumber mills in the Pacific Northwest has been selling lumber to China by the hundreds of millions of board feet. I know this because my brother in law is a big manager at one of these mills. So, I call him yesterday and he told me they were still milling for China and the lumber was being loaded into ships at the docks in Portland Oregon at $856 per Thousand Board Feet and headed for Iraq. He told me, at this time, there is no end in sight to stop milling. Me knowing China has the biggest housing deal in Iraq, they need the lumber. The start up money for those orders is coming from part of the DFI funds and so where's the rest coming from? There's only one answer to that question and I think you know that answer, from what the radio news broadcaster said, China told Maliki. I Know you know the rest of the story, We Are Getting Close! AJ
[CAP1] OKone -Companies doing business in Iraq are the ones I'm looking to invest in, too.
[OKone] CAP1, we definately need to be looking at the communication industries, I wonder who will get the cellphone contracts??
[CAP1] OKone - Okie, in February, gave us about 10 companies that we might be interested in investing.
[CAP1] CAP1 Okie's company's related to us in Feb - Schlumberger; Haliburton; B J Hughes; Johnson Control; Cemex (international supplier of cement); Cameron Valves; Hydrill; John Deere; Caterpillar; BP; GE; Hedge Funds - Middle East Authority
[CAP1] And of course the communications company for cell phones, etc.
[CAP1] And of course the communications company for cell phones, etc.
[OKone] CAP1, those seem to be in the oil industry, wonder if he may have any in the communications indusrty? I think that will be a big oppertunity because everyone will be wanting computers and phones, whtcha think?
[CAP1] We need to find out who got the contract.
[CAP1] "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have." - Ronald Reagan
that correct TS?
[CAP1] Subject: Eagle Has Landed, Tony PTR, Dinar Wishes 11-22-11 Today at 6:36 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Come on RV/Rate Blessings To All You Guys, CZ 11-22-2011 Eagle Has Landed It is FINISHED! Relax and enjoy the holiday! I lived in Belgium for eight months. My friend at The Hague in Brussels says we are FINISHED. 11-22-2011 Tony PTR Got a call from someone who is not on the boards, who is involved in dinar, said on Fox news on Saturday, they said "Iraqi dinar was the highest currency in the world", they just knew that the RV would be today/tomorrow. Still looking for this any minute, any hour. I'm excited. If you were paying attention, the Super Committee went away, that was the last hold up...if it was from Saturday night the 72 hours started...that's what your window is...things are still processing...it's being done, just be patient, you're going to see it, that part has not changed. It's going to be a great week, we are absolutely at
[gracie] it's being done, just be patient, you're going to see it, that part has not changed. It's going to be a great week, we are absolutely at the end. from PTR 11-22-2011
papajack: From what I'm reading we could see this overnight
: papajack: Some say as soon as IT guy lockdown is over it is done and the 72 hour thing is over and they are on a 24 extension to complete loading rates.
papajack: Not sure but it means the 72 hour delay is over
ram1: Rate predictions anyone??
papajack: Ram1 Near Kuwait
: ram1: What happened to $7
papajack: ram1 Yes but Kuwait is in the basket also so they could change.
papajack: I heard China and O fighting pumped up the rate, thanks to China
papajack: Closer than a bandaid as Okie says
papajack: I hope what you heard is right . . .I thought O might get his way which wouldn't be the best.
papajack: Lady It wasn't because he didn't try but if what I heard is right IT'S OVER!!!!
.dinarmama7: papajack Sure hope so
papajack: dinarmama7 I'm thinking by morning

PAPAJACK: FROM WHAT I'M READING WE COULD SEE THIS OVERNIGHT




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THE ROCK CHAT 5 DEC

[TheRock] how would everyone like a monday chat [BondLady] rock has put together [BondLady] a most awsome chat for us today [Shunshine] yes love surprises [BondLady] if every 1 will sit on hands while he does this [BondLady] and we can have comments pertaining to what he says only [BondLady] as it wil make it easier to copy an clean up to post [campdav] TheRock go for it [BondLady] admins ill copy but plz tell all new ones entering to sit on hands plz [TheRock] ok I am going to start back to Oct [BondLady] heresssssssssssssssssssssssss rocky [TheRock] The head of the Liberal: the Iraqi economy will improve after the departure of U.S. troops from Iraq 26/10/2011 13:09:00 The independent Iraqi news agency / Baghdad – The head of the Liberal parliamentary Bahaa al-Araji, at a conference in the House of Representatives with the various Iraqi political blocs and the host central bank governor, “Shabibi” that the Iraqi economy will improve after the departure of U.S. troops from Iraq. Araji said the reporter (and independent Iraqi news agency) “that there are four important things were discussed with the Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq’s economic future, first after the occupation and how to restore economic activity through the profits to be provided by the Iraqi economy . Saying was “discussed the possibility of the distribution share of the oil to the Iraqi citizen. Noting “that the governor welcomed this proposal and prepared to cooperate to achieve this important project. Adding, “discussed the private banks and retail banking, remittances, and how to adjust and with great regret we received information that there are points of a terrorist group and Saddam’s Baath The control of these banks. He explained” were discussing these things because we are at the doors of the liberation of Iraq and return of Iraqi sovereignty, even to Anattiy way for terrorists. He said al-Araji said the most important matter which has been discussed is to delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency and the pros in this project. Stressing that “the world view to the Iraqi dinar because of the loss of sovereignty would be a diminution of the dinar and the evacuation of troops will raise the value of Iraqi dinar. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ina-iraq.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitical%2F3269.html
[TheRock] “Shabibi” that the Iraqi economy will improve after the departure of U.S. troops from Iraq. [TheRock] Shabibi said the economy will improve [TheRock] He has always done what he said he was going to do [TheRock] Stressing that “the world view to the Iraqi dinar because of the loss of sovereignty would be a diminution of the dinar and the evacuation of troops will raise the value of Iraqi dinar. [TheRock] Because the lose of Sovereignty when Chapter 7 of the UN resolution was applied the Dinar lost its value. “diminution of the dinar” [TheRock] We know Shabibi said the Iraqi economy will improve AFTER our troops leave [TheRock] After our troops leave ,, will raise the value of Iraqi dinar. [TheRock] its plain as day what Shabibi wants to do [TheRock] Let me bring in another article that tells how involved we are with Iraq
[TheRock]Joint Statement by The United States of America and The Republic of Iraq Higher Coordinating Committee The United States of America and the Republic of Iraq are committed to forging a strong partnership based on mutual interests that will continue to grow for years to come. Our two nations are entering a new phase in our relationship. We have a historic opportunity to strengthen our ties beyond security and build a multi-faceted relationship through trade, education, culture, law enforcement, environment, energy, and other important areas. [TheRock] Trade and Finance Cooperation [TheRock] do you see that and how committed we are? [BondLady] yep The United States and Iraq will continue their efforts to reinforce their financial and trade cooperation and to strengthen ties between our nations’ business communities. For the first time since 1988, the U.S. participated in the recent Baghdad International Trade Fair, showcasing 85 American businesses and organizations and building on the success of the Business and Investment Conference held in Washington, D.C. in 2009. The United States is supporting the Government of Iraq’s efforts in the financial sector by providing the technical expertise needed to develop private banks and microfinance institutions. In this context, the United States is developing new lending products for small and medium enterprises, in addition to the roughly $50 million set aside for such loans. Our governments are looking forward to the next meeting and recommendations of the U.S.-Iraq Business Dialogue, a forum of Iraqi and U.S. companies that promises to strengthen commercial ties between our countries. [TheRock] The USA is fully supporting Iraq in ALL areas [TheRock] The USA and Iraq have agreed to partner to build a strong Iraq. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/30/joint-statement-united-states-america-and-republic-iraq-higher-coordinat November 30, 2011
[TheRock] ok now here is a BIG thing what is going on and IMO what is holding things up [TheRock] CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION [TheRock] Article 39 The Security Council shall determine the existence of any threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression and shall make recommendations, or decide what measures shall be taken in accordance with Articles 41 and 42, to maintain or restore international peace and security. [TheRock] Article 41 The Security Council may decide what measures not involving the use of armed force are to be employed to give effect to its decisions, and it may call upon the Members of the United Nations to apply such measures. These may include complete or partial interruption of economic relations and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio, and other means of communication, and the severance of diplomatic relations. [TheRock] Article 42 Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations. http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml
[TheRock] It is clear by article 41 of Chapter 7 that Iraq’s funds were frozen and thus hindered and or stopped Iraq’s ability to trade international.] [TheRock] Article 41 did not produce the results expected and caused us to go to war with Iraq.] [TheRock] After the printing of the new Dinar the exchange rate revalued a few times. This was for in country only and to control inflation by the CBI. [TheRock] Around Jan. 2009 the rate of 1170 came in and stayed since. Inflation since 2003 has also come down from as high as about 140% to as low of about 5% [TheRock] Article 7 is a BIG thing [TheRock] unless they are removed they will NOT be fully sovereign nor able to do internation business
[TheRock] Here are some great links to look at: http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/exportal.aspx?memberKey1=460&date1key=2008-08-31&category=EXCHRT http://www.cbi.iq/statistics.html http://www.cbi.iq/images/inflation_chart.jpg http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/exfin1.aspx
[TheRock] ok lets move on [TheRock] Saturday, 3 December 2011 Shara describes a step toward the withdrawal of occupation out of Iraq from Chapter VII Agencies – described the deputy parliamentary bloc of the citizen and the withdrawal of U.S. occupation, not to grant immunity to coaches step forward in Iraq would emerge from Chapter VII. The MP said Furat al-Shara that “the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country at the end of the year 2011 as part of the security agreement concluded between the two countries and not to grant legal immunity for trainers will be channeled towards the exit of Iraq from Chapter VII of the UN Security Council.” He added that “this step will significantly contribute to the restoration of Iraq to full sovereignty, and its weight, the truth status of the region and the international community. ” The U.S. President Barak Obama announced on 21 October last, that his country’s troops in Iraqi territory would be in the United States during the holidays, stressing that Washington will support Iraq in all fields. http://alrayy.com/36799.htm
[TheRock] Legal immunity for trainers will be channeled towards the exit of Iraq from chapter 7. [TheRock] Is this the one issue that holds Iraq in chapter 7? [TheRock] Is it also possible that the USA will NOT remove Iraq from chapter 7 unless they give USA trainers immunity while in Iraq? [TheRock] USA is bargaining with Iraq [TheRock] Ashur: any agreement between Baghdad and Washington must include out of the reach regulation VII Date: Monday, 05-12-2011 11: 06 am Baghdad (newsletter).Iraqi list Adviser Hani Ashour said any agreement with the Iraqi Government expected the US Administration on military cooperation and keep instructors or US troops in Iraq, mean that Iraq has no national sovereignty unless emerging from Chapter VII. Ashur said in a press statement Monday: Iraqi Government when it signed Convention security in 2008 and was scheduled to withdraw by the end of the year, had confirmed that the signing of the Convention intended to eject Iraq under Chapter VII, [TheRock] but this did not materialize. [TheRock] Ashour said: the departure of US troops from Iraq did not mean the return of full sovereignty to Iraq as long as the country will remain subject to Chapter VII. [TheRock] calling on the Iraqi Government not to sign any agreement during any future negotiations with the US side without undertaking and commitment to bring Iraq under Chapter VII and during a specific time period, in order to fulfil the commitments between the two countries. Ashour said: the security agreement between Iraq and the United States being the withdrawal in the light of the strategic framework for cooperation has not been fully implemented, and that the Iraqi Government should disclose all facts to people before undertaking any new agreement with the US Administration on trainers, military cooperation and develop Iraqi forces after the withdrawal and oblige us to bring Iraq party under Chapter VII. [TheRock] The Iraqi Government was seeking to remove Iraq from the pain of this item which was imposed on Iraq for former regime’s lack of commitment to implement UN resolutions for its invasion of Kuwait in 1990./finished/o. Eng.. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ar&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Fnews.php%3F
TheRock] Iraq WILL NOT return to FULL Sovereignty until they are out of Chapter 7[TheRock]Iraq wants out of Chapter 7 and they also want FULL Sovereignty. [TheRock]IMO they will not have FULL sovereignty until USA has immunity for trainers. [TheRock] Monday 5 December 2011 Ashour, calling on the government to refrain from signing any agreement with Washington Baghdad / babysit – called adviser to the Iraqi List, Hani Ashour, the Iraqi government to refrain from signing any agreement with the United States without a pledge to bring the country from Chapter VII, considering that the continuation of this will prevent the restoration of sovereignty to Iraq following the U.S. withdrawal is expected late this month. [TheRock] A statement issued by the Information Office of the Ashour him as saying on Monday that the Iraqi government when it signed a security pact with Washington in 2008, which was that of determining the date for the withdrawal of U.S. troops end of the year 2011, had assured the time it aims to rid Iraq of the item Chapter VII, But this did not happen, considering that the exit of the U.S. military [TheRock] does not mean the return of full sovereignty to Iraq as long as the country is subject to Chapter VII. http://alrayy.com/36974.htm [TheRock] Iraq will refrain signing any agreements with the USA without a pledge to bring Iraq out of chapter 7. [TheRock] An agreement was signed that when our troops leave Iraq will be removed from Chapter 7 [TheRock] Again it is my opinion that United States will not allow Iraq to be removed from chapter 7 until our trainers get immunity. [TheRock] Unless Iraq is removed from Chapter 7 fully they are NOT a FULL Sovereign country and will lack the ability to do international trades. [TheRock] We know investors have come in and continue to but being under Chapter 7 limits the ability to fully enter into the international community.
[TheRock] Iraqi list Adviser Hani Ashour said any agreement with the Iraqi Government expected the US Administration on military cooperation and keep instructors or US troops in Iraq,********* mean that Iraq has no national sovereignty****** unless *******emerging from Chapter VII.************ Ashur said in a press statement Monday: Iraqi Government when it signed Convention security in 2008 and was scheduled to withdraw by the end of the year, had confirmed that the signing of the Convention********** intended to eject Iraq under Chapter VII,********** but this did not materialize. Ashour said: the departure of US troops from Iraq did not mean the return of full sovereignty to Iraq ********as long as the country will remain subject to Chapter VII.********** calling on the Iraqi Government not to sign any agreement during any future negotiations with the US side********** without undertaking and commitment to bring Iraq under Chapter VII******* and during a specific time period,******* in order to fulfil the commitments between the two countries.***********Ashour said: the security agreement between Iraq and the United States being the withdrawal in the light of the strategic framework******* for cooperation has not been fully implemented, *********and that the Iraqi Government should disclose******* all facts******* to people before undertaking any new agreement with the US Administration on trainers,****** military cooperation and develop Iraqi forces after the withdrawal******* and oblige us to bring Iraq party under Chapter VII. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ar&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Fnews.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D26206
[TheRock] There you have it and in my opinion the immunity issue has been a BIG issue thus far
[TheRock] why
[TheRock] because Iraq and USA are partners
[TheRock] and the USA WILL NOT allow our trainers be subject to their laws
[TheRock] Iraq needs us
[TheRock] and we need them
[TheRock] the immunity issue is a bargaining issue and we hold the aces
[TheRock] without them giving our trainers immunity
[TheRock] Iraq reamins in chapter 7
[TheRock] and can not enter into the international community the way they want to
[TheRock] yes investors can go there and do business
[TheRock] and build infrastructures and oil wells
[TheRock] but the international business is hindered very much
[TheRock] untill they ARE FULL Sovereign
[TheRock] and as long as the US holds that Iraq will remain
[TheRock] give our trainers immunity
[TheRock] and we will remove you from Chapter 7
[TheRock] Iraq is ready to revalue and make the Dinar more valuable
[TheRock] Shabibi has educated the media and people
[TheRock] he is ready but can not do it until Iraq has FULL Sovereignty
[BondLady]it sure is looking like per the articles weve seen the last few days rock
that u could very well be spot on with this
[TheRock] Immunity for the trainers is what we need and Iraq needs out of Chapter 7
[TheRock] Immunity for the trainers is what we need and Iraq needs out of Chapter 7
[TheRock] All our troops are leaving soon
[TheRock] but unless IMO they give our trainers immunity Iraq reamins in Chapter 7
[TheRock] Iraq its your move
[TheRock] we call
[TheRock] and hold the aces
[TheRock] done
[BondLady] awsome rock
[BondLady] just a awsome chat buddy
[Shredd]good stuff man
[TheRock] walks off and hands mic to BondLady
[Antar7] thanks rock
[campdav] Awesome presentation, thanks Papa Rock
[BondLady] that was one of the best chats ive had the opurtunity to read and be a
part of ty so much rock
[grashopa] ..I agree w/BL….TheRock ….You very well my have hit the nail on the
head………….GREAT job….
[TheRock] BondLady yw
[TheRock] you taught me well BondLady
[TheRock] ty
[TheRock] we follow news and try to decipher it the best we can
[BondLady] rock presented u all facts with links
[campdav] TheRock Solid Rock, a bedrock of facts
[BondLady] this is what its all about
[Laura] TheRock Great chat and thanks!!! This sounds like it could very well be done
soon…awesome…give us the immunity…we release you from chapter 7…sounds good
to me!!!
[br_dinar] TheRock Great Chat Excellent!
[TheRock] when its posted go over it and think.. I know I did not have everything
nor all the answers
[player46] TheRock ..good chat and TY. In your opinion, what does immunity
completely entail? Not subject to their laws?
[TheRock] thats why we work together to figure it out
[BondLady] yeppers
[TheRock] without emotions or rumors getting in the way
[cranster] here’s what glenn beck said today. He said “I talked to a couple currency
people this weekend, and one guy who’s supposed to be one of the best, but I didn’t
really get an answer from him” He went on to say ” I have to do more research on
this, but I think if I’m right, I know where the big money is going and there may be
a way for the average person to get on the boat, but it’s kinda of a scary risky
thing if you don’t have a lot of money” He said “I don’t even know if anybody does
this in real life it’s a theory of mine, donimic give me a few more days on this and
I’ll let you know about this particular piece I was talking about” ebbedy ebbedy…
that’s all folks
[BondLady] ty all for respecting the chat and not typing thru it for us
[gaffi] TheRock -Excellent! Drinks are on me.
[Antar7] TheRock Rocks………………………!
[BondLady] tyvm cranny
[TheRock] bbl
[Shredd] cranster you shister
[Shredd] BondLady gm ma lady
[poopsie] BondLady BondLady tyttyty your great
[BondLady] drops the mic for rock and gives him a box of choclates

BEAR POST 5 DEC

BEAR5642: I JUST WANTENOTICABLE. PLEASE DONT GET DISCOURAGED
D TO COME IN HERE AND MAKE SURE EVEYONE UNDERSTAND THAT gOD WILL BRING THIS RV
TO US HE HAS HIS HANDS ON THIS INVESTMENT AND IT HAS ENCOUNTERED SPIRITUAL
WARFARE WHICH IS VERY NOTICABLE. PLEASE DONT GET DISCOURAGED


BEAR5642: THE POWERS AT BAY ARE NOW ARE IN OUR FAVOR AND WE
WILL SEE THIS HAPPEN VERY SOON


BEAR5642: ON PHONE WITH OKIE HOLD ON


BEAR5642: WE NEED TO PRAY FOR OKIE AND BE IN AGREEMENT FOR
HIM TO REGAIN HIS STRENGTH AND FULL HEALTH HE LOVES EVERYONE IN HIS HOUSE AND
SAYS HELLO. I JUST PRAYED FOR HIM AND HE WILL GET SOME REST. I BELIEVE WE WILL
SEE IRAQ LIFTED FROM CHAPTER 7 TODAY OR TOMORROW AND WITH IT COMES OUR RV
PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE AND IT IS BEING TESTED IN EACH AND EVEYONE OF US. WE HAVE
ENDURED LONG AND HARD AND OUR REWARD IS SOOOOOO NEAR.


Chuck7479: O wants the RV, he just wants it real close to
the election, so he can be the savior IMO


BEAR5642: CHUCK7479 HE CANNOT HOLD THIS TILL HIS ELECTION
AND THEIR ARE POWERS FAR TOO GREATER THAN "O" AND THEY WILL WIN AS WE
SPEAK THIS RV PROCESS HAS BEGUN AND IRAQ WANTS ITS FREEDOM


BEAR5642: DELIVERTHE WORD I STARTED AFAST TODAY TO SEE THSI
COME TO PAST AND THE HEALING OF OUR BROTHER OKIE AND ASK ANYONE WHO IS WILLING
TO JOIN ME IN PRAYER AND FASTING FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS AND BREAK THE ENMY BACKS


cypresslogs: dont they need an r v first to lift the chapter
7 off of them


BEAR5642: CYPREESLOGS THEY BE BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY


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FOR OUR PROMSE IN THE NAME OF JESUS I LOVE YOU ALL AND WILL KEEP YOU POSTED I
AM BELIEVING FOR FAVOR WITH THE LOUISIANA STAE FIR MARSHALL'S OFFICE HAVE A BLESSED DAY