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Friday, December 2, 2011

SHORT CALL PTR 9 PM 2 DEC

CALL NOTES by Rana at PTR Forum

Dan - The blackout has gotten a little more identifiable since our call todays..
there are some things pretty exciting going on right now
We have held off on the ID theft for right now


Tony - the information has intensified - and who cares about the rest - the best of the best is about to happen.. we really do beleive that

alsumara news were interviewing iraqis coming out of the mosque asking how was it to be a sovergn nation, how is it to have your $$ back to your peers, some were not even aware about what has happened

I thought we could see it on our news but it was alsumaria news and one other one..if you are listening send it to me.. lockdown is in progress in Iraq, we heard the lockdown was in progress but we new 48 hrs ago that it was going to happen
every few hours we get more confirmation on the intel
there are very definate things going on and we really hope that you are getting prepared

Dan - how many times have we done a call like this for no reason on a friday night
there is a reason we are doing this call.. we never come out here trying to pump something up not me anyways

Read More Link on Right

Tony - you should be happy and should be excited
we are hearing some good things
there is more clarity and truth to it than it has ever been
as far as everyone agreeing, meetings planned, blacked out over there
people don't just turn their communications off for nothing
challenge it! call over there and see if YOU can get hold of someone
borders are closed.. they will take your phone at airport
so call and try to prove me wrong.. that is how confident I am
we are also at a fri. and you cannot buy reserves etc..

Dan - we are also at a friday and you cannot buy reserves etc..
the country is really in a good postion.. tonight they have a cut off from the rest of the world
this DOES mean something this is a big enough deal that we did this call
this is just an update and will be a short call

Tony - if we could be more specific w/o jeaopardizing peoples jobs and positions we would
I am relaxing.. I haven't been on the board.. I am saying this is over

Don't wait up for a call

Dan - have a great friday and hope we talk to you in 5 hours

Tony - I don't believe you said that 5 hours - wipe that out!

Dan - I said I hope we talk to you in 5 hours but I thing we will get more info tomorrow

CALL IS OVER

JONNY CHAT 2 DEC

Posted Friday, 06:01 PM [hammerman] opps sory between now an 8pm cst is suposed to be a good window ,,,, not saying it will rv ,,this imfo came out of iraq ,,, not saying it will happen but im watching ,,, sorry was still on the phone when i wrote last post
[jonnywg] i am in no danger other than names would be named if this level of info released. [jonnywg] we will all know soon [jonnywg] 7 of last 9 RV’s in IRAQ were on FRIDAY
[cacky] How much older do we have to get Jonnywg. Maliki will be to old to push the buttonroflmao
[jonnywg] cacky maliki has no power………….ALAWI is the PM [jonnywg] Shabibi is technically the button pusher
[sonnayhwh] Folks, pay attention to what’s out in the open RIGHT NOW! The “intel” as good as it’s been, lends to emotional ups and downs as we don’t have too much of the “plain sight” info. But that is changing on the world stage as we sit hear. ALL IS WELL, and coming soon! imo. . .
__Posted Friday, 06:21 PM
Well, that was sure QUICK!!!
Highhopes: Jonny awhile ago you posted that Allowi was the Prime Minister, not Maliki. That has me confused Can you explain?
[jonnywg] highhopes i posted that Maliki was PM in name only for PR……… Alawi and his cabinet are in control
[Canuckgirl] jonnywg I thought Allawai stepped down?
[Canuckgirl] ArizonaHeat jonnywg lol which is it? [skysthelimit] Maliki still hold the title of PM but titel only
[jonnywg] Canuckgirl not public ask next week jonnywg] Canuckgirl i’ll take the fall……..let me not answer please
[rdailey] Canuckgirl So it sounds like Jonny sticks by his statement that Allawi is in charge, but let’s keep it between us Squirrels til next week, when the RV has come and gone. lol
[weneedit] Hi jonnywg do you have a mouth full that is why you can’t say much ?

TERRYK CHAT 2 DEC

[terryk] Iraq celebrates U.S. withdrawal officially 02/12/2011 10:36 Baghdad, Dec.2 (AKnews)- During a ceremony in the heavily fortified Green Zone of Baghdad yesterday the Iraqi and U.S. senior officials marked the end of the U.S. combat troops mission in Iraq, eight years past the fall of Saddam Hussein regime. The U.S. which led the invasion against former regime in 2003, signed the State of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with Iraq in 2008.

Under the agreement the U.S. should have completely pulled out its combat troops from the country by end of this year. However, the two countries may extend cooperation in industry, technology, health, education and culture. Speaking at the ceremony, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani dubbed April. 9, 2003, the starting point of U.S. led war “the day of terminating oppression and dictatorship of the former regime.” He added instead of using the resources of Iraq in the development of the economy, the former regime harnessed them for purchasing weapons and launching wars with neighbors at the expense of turning Iraq an “unpopular” state at international level. Overthrowing the former regime “was a difficult mission but the support of the allies [coalition forces], in particular the U.S. friends helped in terminating the oppression in Iraq,” the president said. He noted “the U.S. and Iraqi army exerted too much effort, due to which work on what had been devastated in the past years was launched.” Mr. Talabani added the Iraqi army and police will endeavor to ensure the security “and we rely on the foreign trainers to support our security forces.” While there are many parties who oppose the U.S. present in the country at any form, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has obtained the approval of the political bloc leaders to introduce the U.S. trainers to the country after the U.S. army withdraws. The issue is still disputed. The size of the training force is not fixed yet. Besides, the U.S. is striving to ensure legal immunity for the force- a privilege that almost all the blocs have
[terryk] Iraqi PM hailed the U.S. withdrawal “a historic victory.” Mr. Maliki said “today the promise of the complete withdrawal of forces of our friends is met, therefore, we should plan for the success of this pull out and out the interest of Iraqi above all the flags.” Once more in the ceremony, the PM blamed supporters of Baath for depriving Iraq of enjoying its sovereignty. “The annulled Baath party takes the whole responsibility for Iraqi’s lack of sovereignty since the 1990s… After the pull out [of U.S. forces] the covers of al-Qaeda organization, the ousted regime and the terrorist cells will be removed and the withdrawal process will disclose all the parties that were hiding behind the foreigners who interfered in Iraq.” The U.S. Vice President Joe Biden who was also present at the ceremony extended his thanks to the Iraqi senior officials and the troops from his country. “Today the war in Iraq is over….Our relation with Iraq focused on security but today it will extend to cooperation in broad fields.” He said. By Raman Brusk
[terryk] http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/4/275756/
[terryk] MORNING PEEPS
[Agent 007] Some pretty strong words, there, from Maliki
[Agent 007] and good morning TK
[Agent 007] hiding behind the foreigners who interfered in Iraq.
[terryk] IMF President Christine LaGarde, along with European INTERPOL, has frozen the $50 BILLION of MF Global derivatives tied to J. P. Morgan and has informed President Barack Obama, as well as U. S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, that European INTERPOL will soon indict Jamie Dimon of J. P. Morgan for currency fraud, counterfeiting and money laundering “The Global Banking System RESTRUCTURED today..CENTRAL BANKS. NOW..a country can determine the value of their currency against that of others as well as against Commodities such as OIL, GOLD, Real Estate, etc. This has been in the works, say negotiations, for weeks, & has held up everything and caused BANK screens to be ZERO vs ZERO, since nobody could establish a basis point. That should be able to happen now. DINAR can be evaluated now, by the World markets, based on the asset value of their resources.” from a private source.

DINAR GURUS 2 DEC

12-2-2011 Guru Jonnywg I am not making a statement at this time. The information I received is too senstive to be published. Unfortunately I have been in this position for over a week. I will say that it appears most of the issues are resolved and are in our best interests. I also have been officially asked not to comment on the lockdown any more. I can tell you the bank screens/paid forex show 00.000 hopefully this is for the last weekend. I am extremely positive and excited. We must remain collected as we will all have decisions to make.
12-2-2011 Guru Bear5642 I CAN TELL EVERYONE TODAY TO COMPLETELY STOP WORRYING THIS WILL HAPPEN AND CANT GIVE ANY SPECIFICS…I HAVE SPENT HOURS ON THE PHONE AND EVERYTHING IS DONE DONE DONE AND WE JUST WAIT PATIENTLY…THIS CAN HAPPEN TODAY OR NO LATER THAN NEXT WEEK. TONS OF THINGS HAVE BEEN WORKED AND NEGOTIATED AND IT IS ALL FOR OUR BENEFIT BELIEVE WHEN I TELL YOU IM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS MORE THAN EVER. THE ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE WAY HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH AND IT IS NOW A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYONE…THIS CAN GO DOWN IN A SECOND.
12-2-11 Guru BGG CH 7 also allows the freezing of some assets for repayment – which is why people are stuck on the financial aspects of it – but the “teeth” of the deal is the implied “pre-authorization” of force. I am pretty sure we’ll have “immunity” for our people and an RV in hand before CH 7 goes anywhere. I think today’s announcements will be interesting…They have already handed Camp Victory back over to Iraq (on the news last nite).
12-2-2011 Guru Poppy3 There was an article a few weeks back that state from the un that when they rv their currency they will automatically be released from all further chapter 7 sanctions. So all they have to do is rv and chapter 7 is complete?
12-2-2011 Guru Phoenix3333 We are anticipating some major changes coming that we heard about the end of November. Today is the vote on the Jobs Bill, additional tax on anyone making $1 million or more. Have a plan and plan to act, have all your ducks in a row. The IQD – unchanged, still at the artificial program rate. We have an interesting weekend coming up…things are changing.
12-2-2011 Newshound Guru Joey After reading Bidens Speech: Do you think that was a historic day, yesterday? Do you think they concluded something? Do you think they closed a chapter? Do you think they opened a new phase, a new dawn, a new era? YOU BET WE DID…We’re standing on different ground now for those people and our investment. This was a Presidential speech to a brand new, sovereign, Republic Nation. YIPPEE. If you ever felt unstable in our investment I sure as heck hope you didn’t after tonight’s news! It isn’t quite Christmas yet but that’s as close as you’re gonna get.
12-2-2011 Guru Lojak This is what I know…everything is very much on track and playing out just like i was told yesterday…I didnt give out a date…only that we were right in the moment…but the misinformation campaign has begun…The speech yesterday was huge–huge…Nothing has changed…it may seem like it due to the so called delay some has suggested…there is no delay –just let things play out a bit…this is about over
12-2-2011 Guru Breitling December 15th is the next window – the troops are leaving, Shabibi said when the troops leave. That’s why you are seeing alot of activity between politicians in Iraq and the U. S. They will have no excuses after the 15th. Rate is going to be about $.86 to $1.17. Reality is they can come in higher than that, but they have to take baby steps.

POPPY CHAT 2 DIC

8:21 PM [poppy3] guys it has never happened in the history of our gi=ov that they vote a tax on themselves and about 85% of them are millionairs >??? I do not buy it I think they are having an emergency meeting to make sure they are all on the same page to answer questions about the dinar and influx of cash that they have denighed for years now exsisted . They have to tell the same story that they just didnt know or expect this to happen and how wondeful of a surprize it is and what a great impack it will be in America????? they will not tax themselves they never have ??? poppy3
8:23 PM [poppy3] They are there getting the tale straight. The explanation will be very interesting for sure. LOL,LOL
8:26 PM [poppy3] remember my post from the last three days and what they had told us about the ust dinar that they had no idea about and all 5 of them said the same thing ??? They had the same story both times contacted but it couldn’t be the same answer for the two different questions. Lol,lol they couldnt explain the answers?? Poppy3
8:27 PM[poppy3] they are not going to let that happen this time and are meeting to make sure it doesnt behind closed doors?? Poppy3
8:30 PM [poppy3] ckh they never have that i remember in my 64 years. They have contimued to improove their medical insurance and wages >?? They have never taken money out of their pockets?? Poppy3
8:31 PM [poppy3] jam777 they could not do the vote in private but they can discuss and agree before the vote in private. Poppy3
8:33 PM [jam777] BGG thought they were voting now on the millionairre tax. Maybe he said they were just meeting to discuss.
8:37 PM [poppy3] they are not theree to vote lol,lol but they are discussing a potential problem they face with the american public and i do beleve that. Poppy3 i just talked with bgg and he thinks it is possible they are meeting to pass this tax law at the last second. I told him why i just don’t by that and if i am wrong i will eat my hat but i am a elected official myself and i will not beleive they will break tradition and vote against themselve?? Poppy3 this points out we can agree to disagree on this site without a argument we just have different outlooks at this subject time will tell. Poppy3
8:39 PM [jam777] poppy3 … just a thought … given the entire congress seems to be aware of the dinar … and probably well invested by now … what would they care if the country gets 3% more of their profits … if it benefits the USA ? Especially since they can claim they voted against their own income come election time ?
8:40 PM [poppy3] jam777 —-less than 4% of people in america are millionairs and 85% of congress and senate are millionairs now even though many of us will join their ranks do you really think they would do this to themselves just to get at us?????
8:37 PM [poppy3] they are not theree to vote lol,lol but they are discussing a potential problem they face with the american public and i do beleve that. Poppy3 i just talked with bgg and he thinks it is possible they are meeting to pass this tax law at the last second. I told him why i just don’t by that and if i am wrong i will eat my hat but i am a elected official myself and i will not beleive they will break tradition and vote against themselve?? Poppy3 this points out we can agree to disagree on this site without a argument we just have different outlooks at this subject time will tell. Poppy3
8:39 PM [jam777] poppy3 … just a thought … given the entire congress seems to be aware of the dinar … and probably well invested by now … what would they care if the country gets 3% more of their profits … if it benefits the USA ? Especially since they can claim they voted against their own income come election time ?
8:40 PM [poppy3] jam777 —-less than 4% of people in america are millionairs and 85% of congress and senate are millionairs now even though many of us will join their ranks do you really think they would do this to themselves just to get at us?????
8:41 PM [mona lisa] I appreciate all the perspectives … it expands my thinking.
8:42 PM [jam777] poppy3 right … would have to be a benefit to them … like I mention …. claiming they were voting against their own income to benefit the USA
8:43 PM [jam777] when all they truly would be doing is voting for a 3% reduction in their dinar profits
8:43 PM [OfCourse13] poppy3 I’m betting w you. They never want to tax themselves or their paymasters.
8:45 PM [H-Spot] Did any of those 130 countries rv today? And if so, what were the results?
8:46 PM [rileyjones] H-Spot Yes, some countries did Re-value today. I posted some articles today about it
8:46 PM [H-Spot] rileyjones what was the most significant one, or the most noticable change in one?
8:46 PM [OfCourse13] why would SOME RV and not Iraq???
8:47 PM [poppy3] jam777 now i will say they have planned like i have and will place the largest amount of their dinar in a tax free account so either way if will not effect them short term. But they still will not vote against themselve just to get at our money that doesnt help them. It would be a black mark again against them getting ellected. Poppy3
8:48 PM [jam777] poppy3 good point … taxing those with the most possible campaign donations …. not a good idea
8:50 PM [poppy3] jam777 lol,lol i agree completely but these jokers running now can’t expect to get any of mine. Lol,lol bunch of wishey washey sissies no guts and no stamina to tell the facts. Poppy3
8:56 PM [poppy3] hey like i have told everyone i have been there and testified in front of senate and congress and i can tell you there are good peeps on both sides of the isles the problem is there are absolute asssses on both side also and they are all alike. I would vote for a conservative democrat if one would run and stand his ground this is the first time in history i think a incumbant could be beat buy someone in his own party. Lol,lol poppy3
8:59 PM [poppy3] jam777 it is wrong and a senator that i suported for election told me those lies face to face and i let her know i knew it was a lie and had proof and she said thats all i can say. I told her to not expect my financial or influencial help ever aain and that i would campaign against her and all incumbants from here forward. Poppy3
9:00 PM [jam777] poppy3 bet she loved that
9:01 PM [poppy3] lobster my friend i have proof they recieved 4.3 trillion in 2004 door to door from cbi to the doors of the ust. Again lies poppy3
9:01 PM [poppy3] cbi to ust
9:01 PM [topofthemountain] poppy3 you get’em poppy3
9:01 PM [jam777] poppy3 … you just answered my next question
9:01 PM [OfCourse13] doctorEQ Actually…it WAS fun
9:01 PM [jam777] wow, so they really do have dinar
9:02 PM [poppy3] jam777 that doesnt count the approx 2 trillion you and i and many corps in america are holding. poppy3
9:03 PM [OfCourse13] poppy3 So happy to hear it went to UST and not the Fed
9:03 PM [poppy3] it also doesnt take in consideration the ammount we don’t know that they have confiscated during the war?? poppy3
9:03 PM [repairman] I will bet you anything they won’t apply a dime to our national debt but hide it and use it for other things
9:04 PM [jam777] Geez … well that would be 6
9:04 PM [poppy3] OfCourse13 the fed wasnt fighting the war the usa was so yes it went to the ust. poppy3
9:07 PM [topofthemountain] repairman time will tell but if O is going to have a chance at re-election he will have to save the day somehow and that will take some amount of monies
9:07 PM [jam777] Geez … well that would be 6+ trillion dinar …. at $3+ USD ….let say at least 60% is not in tax shelters … and the rest at %15 income to the USA gov … that would be 0.6 x 0.15 x $18 trillion …. $1.6 trillion of tax income …. THIS YEAR
9:08 PM [repairman] topofthemountain I have a feeling what is going to save the day is all dinarians buying real estate ,cars etc
9:08 PM [jam777] and that is if its only $3 USD and only 15% tax !
9:08 PM [poppy3] ok here this they have told all of us many times they don’t have it or dont know how much they have etc etc now yesterday the announced on cnbc and cnn and fox news that they will bail out the euro at 1 trillion dollars??? Then said this money will come from oil they get from iraq and sell on the open market???? Lol,lol they will buy oil at $32.00 a barrell and sell for 90.00 plus a barrell thus trippling ouur dollars again 55 to 60 trillion over the next few years?? Poppy3
9:08 PM [lobster] jam777 : They’ve got to get me cashed in before Dec. 31 if they want my tax money!
9:09 PM [rileyjones] jam777 Don’t forget we will be buying oil with it at $32 a barrel
9:09 PM [OfCourse13] lobster Right on!
9:10 PM [newmonies] rileyjones hey
9:10 PM [jam777] rileyjones oh thats right … sooooo … 0.8 trillion usd this year on tax income alone … minimum
9:11 PM [lobster] poppy3 : I can hardly wait for “The Story” to the average JOE. I’ll be smiling all the way to the bank/dealer! 9:11 PM [poppy3] jam777 multiply the 6.3 approx that we know about by $3.00 and that is almost 19 trillion then turn those dinar back to iraq and get $32.00 oil and sell tripple lol,lol there you go pay the debt and rebuild all our roads, schools etc . Puts everyone that will work back to work etc. Poppy3
9:11 PM [rileyjones] lobster Now someone is going to tell them you won’t cash out till after Jan 1st. Now they will put a date on when we have to cash out!
9:11 PM [topofthemountain] thanks poppy
9:11 PM [OfCourse13] poppy3 So do you know why SOME rv today, but not Iraq?
9:12 PM [rileyjones] newmonies Hey!
9:12 PM [holymary] Yes
9:12 PM [newmonies] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM
9:12 PM [jam777] poppy3 wow
9:13 PM [jam777] that makes the tax income look like small potatoes
9:13 PM [rileyjones] newmonies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PM
9:13 PM [poppy3] OfCourse13 no i have zero proof that some did at this time i have seen many post to that effect and it could very well be because my treasury contact said the system could not take that many at one time and they would have to stagger the release. Poppy3
9:13 PM [bigricky] poppy3 are we doing good .I am
9:14 PM [lobster] rileyjones : Why would they want people to cash out AFTER Jan. 1. That would give us 14 more months to use OUR MONEY!
9:14 PM [poppy3] bigricky awesome ricky but i am tired buddy up to many hours last night to monitor the speech for everyone. Poppy3
9:15 PM [rileyjones] lobster That was humor! Sorry did not explain it well enough. Worked in my brain, just not my hands
9:15 PM [OfCourse13] poppy3 Thanks. If that’s the only problem we should be CLOSE, don’t you think?
9:15 PM [bigricky] get some sleep
9:16 PM [lobster] rileyjones : No worry here!
9:16 PM [poppy3] OfCourse13 yes i think it can hit at any time now. Poppy3
9:17 PM [OfCourse13] From your mouth to Shabibi’s ears
9:17 PM [rileyjones] lobster While we are on the subject, Maybe they will give us an incentive to cash in before Jan1
9:17 PM [poppy3] bigricky man you know how hard i work at this and we have to get r done i think we will see very very soon friend and you and i can get back to real life. Poppy3
9:18 PM [lobster] rileyjones : Sounds GOOD to me……..
9:18 PM [bigricky] thats right
9:19 PM [repairman] I guess my question would be with the currencies being zero all week would stop all international trade because of exchange rates seems like a hughe disater to let it go on so long, companies have to have rates even to negotiate deals with manufactorors in other countries. that put all trade at a standstill this week right?
9:19 PM [lobster] poppy3 : Amen! I am so ready to get on with life and blessing others!
9:19 PM [rileyjones] lobster I don’t know if it is true or not, but rumors had us getting deals on taxes if we did cash out within a certain time frame. RUMORS!!!!
9:21 PM [lobster] rileyjones : Yes, I remember, but it depends on rate for me. I may cash out a smaller amount to get me through the Christmas Spirit if that happens!
9:22 PM [jam777] repairman I honestly do not believe anybody is losing any money anywhere with this zeros on the bank screens thing. People are exchanging currencies right now freely when they travel to and from those 133 countries … and if people can trade the currency freely, certainly banks can … not sure what those zeros really mean… as people are buying and selling those currencies now, certainly not for free !
9:22 PM [lobster] rileyjones : I just don’t want to wait TOO long to gain MORE. We never know what might transpire in the M.E. My grandmother always said, “One in the hand is always better than 2 in the bush”!
9:23 PM [poppy3] repairman to address what you just said? If you have noticed many electronics and furniture and many toys have been backordered especially from vn and several other countries and my connection with buyer for dollar general, sears, target that buy from there have said they are worried they can;t or won’t get orders in time to sell before christmas. Poppy3
9:24 PM [lobster] rileyjones : That should have been “One bird” !
9:24 PM [repairman] poppy3 looks like this week a HUGE loss for international business
9:25 PM [poppy3] yes they are running the factories but warehousing at this time . Hey like the buyer said if you knew your $$$$$$ where going to be worth much more anytime wouldnt you hold your product for a week or so and make the huge profits??? Poppy3
9:27 PM [bhjd] poppy3 just reading along I had never give that part a thought..
9:27 PM [lobster] poppy3 : I’m enjoying this chat. Informative but “light”!
9:28 PM [poppy3] bhjd this isnt poppy3′s first rodeo former trailer for the oldest top veo traiming co in the world so i have a advantage lol,lol poppy3
9:28 PM [poppy3] trainer
9:29 PM [poppy3] ceo training
9:29 PM [bhjd] poppy3 i c enlighting
9:29 PM [poppy3] i need a break my diabetes has my hannds shaking like crazy sorry poppy3
9:30 PM [bhjd] later poppy
9:30 PM [topofthemountain] thank you poppy, prayer for healing strength and stamina for you in Jesus name…
9:30 PM [lobster] poppy3 : No problems. Thanks for talking to us!
9:30 PM [poppy3] bbl guys poppy3

BULLDOG POST 4:13 PM 2 DEC

DEC.2,2011 4:13PM CST.

BULLDOG75


Bulldog75: THERE ARE MANY RUMORS COMING IN: WE FILTER AND WE WAIT TIL WE GET BONA FIDE GENUINE DOCUMENTED VERIFIABLE RESULTS. LET'S STAY GROUNDED REGARDLESS BECAUSE THE RUMORS HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH MIS-DIRECTION. LETS REMEMBER, WE WARNED OF THE CRAZY MIS-DIRECTIONS. THERE ARE 'PLANTS' OUT THERE THAT JUST LOVE TO FEED THE FRENZY. BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL OF 'NEWCOMERS' WHO HAVE NO CREDIBILITY AND START THE STUFF. LETS STAY GROUNDED HERE AT OOM. U FILTER AND DECIDE BUT LET'S STAY GROUNDED. THANKS.

Bulldog75: BELIEVER: INFO HAS ALWAYS BEEN DIFFICULT IN AND OUT OF IRAQ DUE TO GOVT'S JAMMING AIRWAVES. GOVT DOES NOT WANT US TO KNOW DETAILS. WE WAIT. TYVM.

Bulldog75: 4PM CST: FLASH: THE ARE THREE MAJOR ARENAS RIGHT NOW HOLDING THIS UP: 1) EUROPEAN CRISIS 2) UST TAX ISSUES BEING VOTED ON NOW BY USA CONGRESS 3) O,G, BERN: FED RESERVE MONEY BOYS IN COMBINATION WITH THE USA BEING THE "CURRENCY RESERVE STATUS" OF THE WORLD. ...........TOO MANY FINGERS IN THE PIE WANTING 'EXTRA PORTIONS'. THE GOOD NEWS IS; WHALES ARE NOW SURFING IN THE BANKS WITH THEIR VOUCHERS. WE WAIT. TYVM.

wmawhite: How about this.............pretty please,..............make up your mind...........it is either being held up .........or the whales are in the banks.......which is it.

Bulldog75: WMAWHITE: 'WAKE UP FROM YOUR DREAMING" ; THE WHALES GET VOUCHERS FIRST; THEN GET THE $$$$$ DIFFERENCES ONCE THE RATES ARE ANNOUNCED. IE: WHALE GETS $3.00 VOUCHER PER DINAR, THEN, THE REMAINING DIFFERENCE COMES TO THE WHALE AT ACTIVATION RATE/DATE. THIS GETS THE LARGER AMOUNTS & LARGER DENOMS OFF THE STREETS EARLY. EASIER FOR THE BANKS. REGARDS.

PTR CALL POST 2 DEC

Rana:

Dan – we have been having a good morning, we have not heard one negative things
Tony – a lot of good information, I’m trying to tell you as much information as possible
Dan – how do we say stuff we can say and stuff we can say, how do we bring it as fact?
Simon – We had a member PM me that someone watch a live feed that a person was pulling smalls denoms, 50, 20, and 10.
Dan – I have not seen it

Tony – I did not hear it or see it but I believe it
Dan – there is a blanket out there
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_Tony – 4 things needed to happen and 2 things have already happened
We know we expect today was a black out for a number of hours for some reasons, they are saying the Iraqis need to enjoy it first, this is a communications black out for an entire country and you can check it out, we had to go through Dubai to get that info
CNN said that Iraqi took over Camp Victory, things that have to happen with the Euro
All day yesterday things are happening with the economy it is tied in with the RV, Greece, Euro…
Money will be moved on Monday (trillions of $)
Biden speech, it was cut off, it did not show Maliki and Shabibi, Stevie Wonder can tell you what happened
I remember last year I said you will have the best Xmas of your life, I’m going to repeat that (financially)
I would be excited, you will be shocked. Dan cut me off when you want to.
Dan – I already want to…lol

Tony – there are other countries coming up but enjoy this one
There is nothing negative
There are links (public info) that you have not seen in the banking system today, I will get it out to you, about Euro deal, this is sooner than later, I think there are 3 links
I’m really excited, don’t go mortgage your house, be happy with what you have, we have been on a hell of a ride, I do see the light at the end of the tunnel
Dan – we see a pattern of Monday’s and Friday’s; I am very encouraged of what is happening today actually the last few days
There needs to be a fix
Dan – Friday’s we always get good info, the things we can verify are actually good information


Tony – I laughed at yesterday was that 3 different countries are forming their own union, this morning I saw is that Germany said they will never leave the Union, there are a lot of things out there
Today, last night things have happened that we have never seen, our guys left Iraq, it cost hundreds of millions of $ and now they are back under a different name, it had to happen
In Sept 2010, I saw on a UN doc on the intel that Iraq will not get out of Chapter 7 until their dinar is equal to the USD, I believe it is still in place from what I have seen last night, 3 different confirmations and it makes sense
We are about to be in the 1/10 of 1%, this will change the global economy but it will take time
Tony – not everyone will be a part of this, there will no longer be a middle class, our country still has to go through something’s before we recover
Dan – regrets we will have is how we prepared for this, it’s going to change your life, where are you going to put your $? This is just the beginning, I don’t want to be classified as a 1%, I don’t want to be arrogant like them, and it will change how you view things your lifestyle
We are in a good spot for the weekend, keep your phone with you, I’m not saying don’t sleep with it…lol

Dan – we are looking at a $3 - $3.50 range, I believe we are looking at an RI, start planning, not for Bentley’s or Helicopters, not like Tony…LOL
Tony – people are happy it didn’t happening in January because people have had time to rethink how they are going to send their money, Dan and I go back and forth
Have a life plan, not a next 6 month plan, how does my money make money, not how I spend it, make it work for me

Gary – When it happens some of us will move forward with the wrong decisions, we are not trying to stop people from having fun
Code 5for 10 – another Friday morning

Texasguy(Mod) – something serious I would like to add that I received in the mail, it was one of the fold over things that is a “Foreign Currency conversion fee limitation?????” (Missed what he said), be conscience of this. A foreign check that want you cash it, sign it, account number, email address, shared with accountant, it’s a red flag. Not sure how they got my info (it’s an $18 check) they will hack your account, there are many people lurking to prey on you
Dan – talking about ID protection
Dan – need to leave soon with some medical issues (nothing major)
Talking about face recognition, ken has some programs with some ID protection, they have redaction programs we will discuss on tonights call
Dan – Ken does ID theft protection; we will have a call tonight regarding this, Ken can you give us 5 mins real quickly?
Ken - Yes, Dan and I have known each other for years, heard a guy talking at the airport about the Dinar and realized I knew Dan Atkinson (No Bull Radio), I called Dan
We have worked hard for Law Enforcement Officers (LEO) over 10k people, protection of your ID
This is coverage for you, redaction (removal) of public info, from your phone book to the internet, we work with undercover LEO’s and have made packages for them to take them off the grid
We work with celebrities, sports figures, LEO’s, we want to make you invisible
So that you are not a target, this was a quick 5 mins
Dan – the most important part is the redaction program – it’s about $2,500 which Ken will be in SF for this, this is just a little more than just getting your name off of an electric bill, Ken is not a Dinar investor at least for now, As soon as the RV happens can our people (members) lock-in at a certain rate?
Ken – Yes
Dan – How long will it take to do XXXX many people? About a month. As soon as this happens from SF can our people moved ahead of all others? We can discuss this tonight at 9 PM EST.
Ken - Yes
Dan - $699 per individual $999 for family (Rana, not sure if this a one time fee)
This will be a 30 min call tonight
You don't have to do it
I have to go but I will be listening

BULLDOG POST 2 DEC

DEC.2,2011 1:53PM CST.

BULLDOG75

Bulldog75: I "TRUST' YOU ALL HAVE YOUR ATTORNEY DONE.

Bulldog75: I HAVE A COMBO 'CPA/ATTORNEY/EX IRS AGENT' ALL ROLLED INTO ONE. ONE STOP SHOP.

#1.)massman1: Whats the difference between a tax attorney and a CPA....why do we need both???

Bulldog75: MASSMAN1; DEPENDS ON HOW COMPLICATED YOUR SITUATION IS.

Bulldog75: IF ONE'S HANDS/BOOKS ARE CLEAN; WHAT IS THERE TO FEAR?

Bulldog75: THIS IS NOT COMPLICATED. BUT IT CAN BE IF ONE REMAINS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO GETS SUED.

Bulldog75: ALL ONE'S ASSETS NEED TO BE IN TRUSTS BASICALLY.

Bulldog75: IF ONE HAS 100 MILLION IN ASSESTS AND THERE ARE NO TRUSTS TO PROTECT THE 5 HOUSES, 5 CARS, 5 DBAs; ONE IS AT SERIOUS RISK TO LOOSE THE WHOLE SHOW. NUFF SAID.

Bulldog75: SEEK COMPETENT LEGAL ADVICE NOW. UNDERSTAND YOUR ASSESTS CAN ALSO GET FROZEN DURING A LEGAL PROCESS. WHY RISK EVERYTHING? FILTER AND DECIDE.

Bulldog75: IF U HAVE A CURRENT LEGAL SITUATION GOING ON; INCLUDING DIVORCE; ONE IS VUNERABLE. THIS CAN BE PING PONGED ALL DAY. WHY RISK THE FARM FOR A THOUSAND OR SO DOLLARS???

Bulldog75: QUESTIONS, IF ANY....BEFORE I GO:

#2.)southaroilgroup: Bulldog what time frame are we looking at?

Bulldog75: SOUTH; TEE TIME AT 2:30PM . HOW BOUT U?
southaroilgroup: Bulldog I quit golf when I fell on the course and ruined my shoulders....buying furniture this afternoon around 2:30 tho.

#3.)Garfield: DIVORCE: All states have a requirement to share any asset that was obtained while married. There are some exceptions, however I don't think that an investment qualifies for the exemption.

Bulldog75: GARFIELD ; I GAVE UP COURT DECISIONS TWENTY YEARS AGO. IF ITS LEGAL; THE JUDGE DECIDES.........IF ITS THE IQD ACTIVATION; GOD DECIDES.

Garfield: BullDog75: absolutely correct!

Bulldog75: I AM CST

Bulldog75: IT APPEARS, IMHO, THE EURO SITUATION HAS TAKEN A FRONT WINDOW SEAT.

Bulldog75: THIS CAN STILL DOMINO ANY HOUR; BUT THE EURO ZONE BAIL OUT APPEARS TO BECOME A SERIOUS PLAY FACTOR. WE WAIT AND SEE.

#4.)jlittle9823: BullDog75 I got a question earlier. What are the chances it will happen on a day other than T-H

Bulldog75: JLITTLE9823; WHAT ARE THE CHANCES MY 60 FOOT PUTT WILL FALL INTO THE HOLE WITH 3 BLADES OF TIFF GRASS HOLDING IT BACK?

#5.)glryan11: Bulldog just got on so r u saying the Euro situation will delay this rv again????? ty

Bulldog75: GLRYAN11; WHATS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND: "THE LEVEL OF THE WATER FLOATS ALL THE BOATS IN THE OCEAN".

Bulldog75: ECONOMICALLY AS WELL.........

Bulldog75: IF EUROPE SINKS, SO DO MOST OF THE BOATS/WORLD ECONOMIES. EVERYONE IS HEAVILY TIED TOGETHER WITH TRADING PARTNERS. CHINA IS HEAVILY INVESTED IN EUROPE, AND THE WHOLE WORLD. DO WE NOW HAVE A CHANGE IN PERCEPTION HERE?

Bulldog75: GLRYAN11 ERIPIE: THE BALL CAN ALWAYS ROLL FORWARD; WILL IT TAKE A LITTLE WIND OR AN EARTHQUAKE?

tarheel1: there is NO deadline

Bulldog75: TARHEEL1: MY DC CONTACT IS OUT TO LUNCH SO FAR. THEY ALLHAVE AN OPINION.

Bulldog75: THERE ARE TOO MANY CHIEFS AT THE PLAYGROUND.

Bulldog75: THE GOVT WANTS TO GET THIS RIGHT ON THE FIRST TRY.......TO AVOID PROBLEMS AND THE EMBARRASSMENT. THE RISKS ARE TOO GREAT.

Bulldog75: THUS NEW COUNTRIES STILL BEING ADDED ON AND SOME COUNTRIES REVISED AT THE LAST MOMENT.

Bulldog75: COLLOSSAL GARGANTUA EVENT THIS IS.............LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM FOR MISTAKES........THOUGH HUMAN ERROR EXISTS....THEY WAIT RATHER THAN MOVE TO QUICKLY.......UN, IMF, WTO, BIS,...LIVES AND $$$$ ON THE LINE HERE.

Bulldog75: WE JUST SAW THE BIDEN/IRAQ PROTOCOL. MORE EXISTS ON PAPER.........AND IN SMOKE FILLED ROOMS. COLLOSSAL EVENT... RISKS GALORE.

Bulldog75: 1:53PM CST: WE WAIT BUT KNOW OUR GIFTS OF LOVE AND IQD/DONG COME SOON. WE KNOW THIS HAS TO HAPPEN. AND IT SHALL. BELIEVE AND KNOW THIS. WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED. BBL.

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BEAR POST 2 DEC

BEAR5642: I CANNOT STAY LONG OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I MA EXTREMELY BUSY AND HAVE ISSUES WITH STATE FIRE MARSHALL
BEAR5642: I CAN TELL EVERYONE TODAY TO COMPLETELY STOP WORRYING THIS WILL HAPPEN AND CANT GIVE ANY SPECIFICS SCOTTIG AND I HAVE SPENT HOURS ON THE PHONE AND EVRYTHING IS DONE DONE DONE AND WE JUST WAIT PATIENTLY
BEAR5642: I DONT COME IN HERE UNLESS I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AND WE JUST NEED TO BE READY AND THIS CAN HAPPEN TODAY OR NO LATER THAN NEXT WEEK TONS OF THINGS HAVE BEEN WORKED AND NEGOTIATED AND IT IS ALL FOR OUR BENEFIT BELIEVE WHEN I TELL YOU IM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS MORE THAN EVER
BEAR5642: THE ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE WAY HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH AND IT IS NOW A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYONE
BEAR5642: OK THATS IT I WILL COME BACK TOMORROW IF NECCESSARY BUT THIS CAN GO DOWN IN A SECOND AND I SPOKE TO OKIE THIS MORNING AND HE IS EXHAUSTED AND TOLD ME TO TELL EVRYONE HE LOVES THEM AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL HE IS EXCITED ALSO
BEAR5642: FINNALY I CAN TRULY SEE AND ENED TO THIS RIDE
BEAR5642: GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP AND MAY HE CAUSE HIS FACE TO SHINE UPON YOU TODAY AND GO RV

JONNY POST 2 DEC

[jonnywg] I am not making a statement at this time. The information I’ve received is too senstive to be published . Unfortunately, I have been in this position for over a week. I will say that it appears most of the issues are resolved and are in our best interests. I also have been officially asked not to comment on the lockdown any more. I can tell you the bank screens/paid forex show 00.000 hopefully this is for the last weekend.

PAPAJACK POST 2 DEC

DEC.2,2011

PAPAJACK

papajack: Just a word to the wise, don't try to micromanage when the activation will be announced, there are a lot of crooked, corupt politicians, bankers, and elitists covering their butts. O is still pushing a 3.5% tax on all you new millionaires to fund his continued destruction of the American way of life. The people that want to take over the world are not happy you found out about this but they have painted themselfs into a corner so it will happen, they can't delay much longer. Just let it play out.

Toldyaso: PAPAJACK do you or does Okie think O will get that tax pushed through ??

papajack: Toldyaso NO I think the adults will hold their ground, but he will keep trying

papajack: Here's the big picture, the delay is the devil is shaking in his boots at the thought of God's people having all this money to bring in a harvest. So he will use all of his minions to try and hold this back from us. However as always he has overplayed his hand so geet ready It's coming any minute

papajack: I have never seen the rightous forsaken, or God's seed begging bread.

papajack: FAITH is a process and many of us are being fine tuned.

Ajob: papajack agreed we need to walk by faith moment by moment. I would have to say after almost 8 years with this though if I was a pencil I would be sharpened to the eraser by now

flyboy64: Ajob we have spanned the globe of DINAR together....amen

LOJAK POST 2 DEC

06 PM [lojak] This is what I know..everything is very much on track and playing out just like iwas told yesterday. If you remember, I didnt give out a date..only that we were right in the moment
5:07 PM [lojak] we are in the moment–but the misinformation campaign has begun–which makes it hard for jonny to clear the air. The speech yesterday was huge–huge
5:08 PM [lojak] Nothing has changed from yesterday..it may seem like it due to the so called delay some in here has suggested..there is no delay –just let things play out a bit
5:08 PM [lojak] so just remain calm –this is about over…not to worry a bit I swear..
5:10 PM [lojak] QF1 I dont work for Jonny, I am not his wingman …I was not sent in here to smooth things over–this is my information and I hope you appreciate this–I have never called a date –never

FOOTFORWARD CHAT 2 DEC

footforward] 3) a certain person from the GOI will be coming over to the US VERY soon [footforward] 4) we should be at the banks next week, the way everything sits now [REI] Most iraq rv’s happened on fridays…why wait till Monday??? . [footforward] 5)my rate im hearing would knock your socks off. im higher then hammerman…. [[gillsdinar] Talking about the billions of dollars of equipment we are leaving in Iraq as a gift [777] footforward i really really really want you to be right [[TNGal] footforward i am definitely liking 4 and 5 lol [EagleResearcher] footforward I missed hammerman rate, what was that?
[augustefamily] footforward is your rate 9 – 11 or higher? yeehaw come on with it!!!!!! [footforward] 777 my source has been a head of the curve so far. he knew about this being pushed back last time, i did a poor job of getting that message out, and im sorry for that earlier arrival of Maliki [meaning the arrival date move up] the RV was coming with him.
[footforward] crystalclear high up source with ties on both sides of the pond
.[Capt Crunch] What was hammer mans rate guess? .[footforward] EagleResearcher over 5. close to 6
.[soonerfan] footforward The one intel provider in DC that I have has been telling me $5.86 for 2 months [[augustefamily] footward 5 – 6 is great also yeehaw
sonnayhwh] cheesehead – Maliki visit was orginally scheduled for the 12th. Now, he is coming the evening of the 5th for ceremonies on the 6th.
7:06 AM [footforward] the main points today are….1) i agree with papajack about monday being very likely for cash out 7:07 AM [footforward] 2) be ready for a ton of negative misinfor today, and over the weekend 7:08 AM [footforward] 3) a certain person from the GOI will be coming over to the US VERY soon 7:08 AM [footforward] 4) we should be at the banks next week, the way everything sits now 7:08 AM [footforward] 5)my rate im hearing would knock your socks off. im higher then hammerman…. 7:10 AM [footforward] 777 my source has been a head of the curve so far. he knew about this being pushed back last time, i did a poor job of getting that message out, and im sorry for that [birdie] Phoenix has moved his show to 6 a.m. EST. You can listen here: http://www.blogtalkradio ··· ing-show
[footforward] dinar4two we should be at the banks next week
[Readynow1] PaPaJack1952 is it your understanding also that Miliki is coming to USA a week early on 5/6? Thanks
[PaPaJack1952] Readynow1 monday the 5th

[lojak] ya’ll be nice to footforward…he knows his stuff!!
[footforward] lojak lol you are much too kind my friend. your money is int he mail lol

[hollyberry] lojak Do think we’ll RV today?
lojak: hollyberry, i think it could show at anytime. We are just waiting on activation

BWM POST

[BWM] ok it seems from reading about things that have occurred today that there is a lot of “distortion” going on.. so just wanted to clarify some of the ramblings that seem to have caught the “headlines”…
first the whole “next year” conversation it doesn’t appear that it can wait that long and since (thank goodness) November 31st’s millisecond has passed things can continue to move forward.
There has been a great deal of information passed out the last 12 hours, some that probably shouldn’t have just because it allows too many inuendos to be in play. With that said, we are in a good place between now and tomorrow afternoon to see some visible movement.
Iraq has almost gained their sovereignty… the only stumbling block is a recognizable internationally traded currency… there are scheduled events next week that lend to this being done BEFORE then… so let me just say if you believed enough to get into this craziness then you should believe enough to survive the last battle… you are on the winning side…

ADAM MONTANA OFFICIAL CHAT

Adam Montana] Morning all! I'm going to do the weekly chat now,
[Adam Montana] hope you all had a great holiday! Mine was perfect - lots of tryptophan, family, and a Packer win to top it off
[Adam Montana] sorry to all the Lions fans out there
[Adam Montana] ok, on to the important stuff
[Adam Montana] most notable is the announcement to discuss the HCL - this is happening NOW
[Adam Montana] we know the law is already drafted and they are voting on draft laws on Thursdays
[Adam Montana] (as of two weeks ago)
[Adam Montana] so if the discussions are successful, it should be as simple as voting it in, then publishing it in the Gazzette.
[Adam Montana] of course, we know nothing in any government is simple
[Adam Montana] regardless - that's where we are
[Adam Montana] it's almost mind-boggling how few things are left to be done before Iraq is fully positioned to change their currency
[Adam Montana] I want to give a few notes here
[Adam Montana] first - December 15 and Jan 1 are big days for Iraq
[Adam Montana] you're going to hear from a lot of the "guru's" that they HAVE to do XXXX by December 15 or they are REQUIRED to change the currency by Jan 1
[Adam Montana] it happens every year
[Adam Montana] please, my friends - don't buy into it
[Adam Montana] they don't HAVE to do anything by any date
[Adam Montana] it makes SENSE for them to act quickly, especially now that so little needs to be done and they are in such a RIPE position, but there is NO MANDATORY RV date
[Adam Montana] it could technically be delayed for years
[Adam Montana] with that said, I still don't think it will
[Adam Montana] in the past, I have always had several things to point at and say "This" is why the RV is a ways out yet
[Adam Montana] I don't have that anymore... all "Those" things are pretty much done and it could literally be any day
[Adam Montana] just don't buy into the notion that it "MUST" happen by any certain date. Those rumors are untrue
[Adam Montana] ok, I know that was a little bittersweet - take it for what it is
[Adam Montana] kcw, got some questions for me from the members?
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[kcw] Blessed4ever OK.. I'll go first! Hi Adam, What do you make of the claims of the RV being announced in Iraq on Fri? Do you think there is ANY substancial truth to this? How are we looking for this/next week? Whats left at this point (just the published announcements in the gazette??) and what do your contacts say?

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[Adam Montana] Good question. When the currency revaluates it will be announced within 24 hours, if not immediately
[Adam Montana] look at this logically. We have a group of people making the decision to dramatically change the rate of the dinar, increasing wealth for the entire population of Iraq, and also many others around the world
[Adam Montana] there is NO WAY that they could keep that under wraps for an entire week, or even 48 hours
[Adam Montana] one or two of them would tell a brother or a cousin to go buy NOW NOW NOW, word would get out, and there would be chaos
[Adam Montana] there's just no way to keep something like that a secret
[Adam Montana] the date it is voted on will be the date it is announced.
[Adam Montana] on that same note, I am betting that shortly after that, a second announcement will be made
[Adam Montana] requiring all large notes to be cashed in to make way for the new notes
[Adam Montana] RV, then RD, in other words
[Adam Montana] to answer the other part of your question - check my opening statements. I see this as 99% ready, now they vote and publish it in the gazette and off we go!
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] pattyangel Hello Adam, just wondering if and when the RV happens, is there by any chance that the DINARVETS.COM site will crash? I know everyone is going to be logging on for an assortment of information. If so, what is your back up plan to stay in touch with your members? And is there anything on our end we could do, to make this transition run smoothly.
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[Adam Montana] It may crash, but it takes less than 7 minutes for the backup server to kick in
[Adam Montana] so, YES it will be madness - but I have it under control
[Adam Montana]
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] redsand Hey Adam, Is it true that the RV will happen in Wisconsin first to help pay for Aaron Rodgers impending new contract? Inquiring minds need to know
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[Adam Montana]
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] Sage449 Talk about the benefit of the OSI, give directions again to how to access the application etc. as I think this is very near and for some that hold a great deal of dinar, may be a tax necessity (protection) from tax overload and taking all funds away.
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[Adam Montana] people... have any of you ever researched our tax rate history?
[Adam Montana] we're at a low tax rate point right now
[Adam Montana] they are trying to do away with capital gains taxes
[Adam Montana] our government is STILL spending it's way into financial ruin
[Adam Montana] our President is making NO progress in getting us out of this hole
[Adam Montana] and when push comes to shove, when they need more money - they will TAKE it

[Adam Montana] next please?
[Adam Montana] I'm strong on .10 to $1
[Adam Montana] I've gone over this a few times, and I even posted a long article explaining it on my blog
[Adam Montana] but to summarize - let's assume Iraq can sustain a $3 rate
[Adam Montana] they could come out at $3 and call it a day
[Adam Montana] but smart business people make money while they are making money
[Adam Montana] so it's in Iraq's interest to come out at .10, and place a large spread on the currency transactions through the CBI
[Adam Montana] since EVERYONE must sell to the CBI, EVERYONE will pay the spread set BY the CBI
[Adam Montana] (I know, some of you may sell to your local bank... that local bank then sells to the CBI... so the fees get passed to you, even if there is no extra spread charged by your local bank.)
[Adam Montana] there WILL be a spread, no matter what any banker or dealer tells you
[Adam Montana] so Iraq comes out at a dime, then charges a 25% spread
[Adam Montana] not everyone will cash in - but a lot will. And Iraq will profit
[Adam Montana] next they raise it to .20
[Adam Montana] more people cash in, Iraq makes more money on the transactions
[Adam Montana] people are still reinvesting at this point, so cash flow is not a problem
[Adam Montana] That's it in a nutshell, hope it helps
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] Paitin I realize that we are all speculating and trying our best to be as logical as possible. (Though, if you can get me that dance with George Clooney I'd be willing to lose my head) That said, I wonder what would happen to iraq if the RV at .10 and the fat cats like Goldman Sacs and others like them bought out the majority of IQD. Wouldn't that be worse than cashing in a relatively smaller number of dinar from current investors? I am still trying to figure this all out so I'm by know means an expert or as informed as most of you all who've been watching this. Any thoughts on that? We know if it rvs at .10 everyone in the known world will assume it will increase over the next few years. I definitely will reinvest. Anyway, just wondered if you could comment on that. sorry if this is covered somewhere.
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[Adam Montana] I will see what I can do about the dance
[Adam Montana] the rest was just now answered above, sorry I jumped ahead!
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] sonnywd Can you outlaw "GURU CHATS" from their super secret sources that only nobody knows? Terrible, terrible.

[Adam Montana] ohhhhhhhhhhhh my goodness, I understand and have considered it many times!
[Adam Montana] the reason we leave that stuff up here is because on every other site it's either banned or promoted
[Adam Montana] and when people disprove the lies, they get banned
[Adam Montana] here at DV you are allowed to post it, and discuss it, without fear of pumping site owners banning you
[Adam Montana] so... unfortunately, I see those garbage posts as a necessary evil
[Adam Montana] the more people that are exposed to it, the better - by allowing them to stay, we are allowing people to see them for what they really are.
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] sourpuss Hi Adam. Is it possible that if IQD goes up and we RV that the USD won't be worth crap and will go wayyyy down making us then only richer in dinar, which we couldnt use, and not gain in US dollars? or in other words, because I know half the time I don't make sense, if IQD goes up could USD plummet and we see no gain?
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[Adam Montana] I don't think so. Of course *anything* is possible, but the USD has a better chance of strengthening as long as we can keep the government from squandering our gains
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] KrispyKreme Adam is it true that this investment might completely flop. Flop - meaning never happen and the currency in Iraq just be changed
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[Adam Montana] possible? Yes. I can give you a list a mile long why it's not "probable"
[Adam Montana] either way, treat it like Vegas - don't put more on the table than you can afford to lose
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] few24u Aloha Adam! Your thoughts on the 000 Iraqi currency versus the 00 Iraqi currency.................. I'm hearing things that one is better to invest in than the other. Mahalo!
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[Adam Montana] If Iraq redenominates or l-o-ps, it will be across the board and affect all current notes
[Adam Montana] they won't l0p half the notes and ignore the other half
[Adam Montana] with that in mind, most of the time you will pay more for the lower denom notes
[Adam Montana] which makes the lower denom notes a WORSE investment
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] Jrose Adam, I have read that a RV can happen with the present stage Iraqi is in. I have also heard it is all about timing. In your thoughts, what exactly would be the right conditions and environment for this to RV? Basicly what are they waiting for??? Thanks again..
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[Adam Montana] I agree! 100%
[Adam Montana] all we're looking for right now is a resolution to the HCL and/or a final complete release of the Chapter 7 sanctions
[Adam Montana] they started with a ton of sanctions
[Adam Montana] over the last years, they have been released from almost all of them
[Adam Montana] I think there are exactly 3 sanctions remaining, and the general concensus is that Iraq has satisfied all requirements for complete release
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] cashman54 Hi Adam, does Iraq have enough US dollars to cash everyone out? I always wonder about this, where the dollars are going to come from...is it possible that only a few can be cashed out because Iraq only has certain amounts of US dollars?
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[Adam Montana] They don't have to have physical dollars, we won't actually be flying pallets of money home
[Adam Montana] the transactions happen in a digital format or with even larger notes used in bank-to-bank transactions
[Adam Montana] the real question is "Can Iraq afford to cash us out", not "Does Iraq have enough USD"
[Adam Montana] if you look at the massive amounts of Natural Gas, Oil, and potential that Iraq has - I say absolutely yes, they can afford to RV
[Adam Montana] next please!
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[kcw] Hawaii 50 Adam I have never asked any Q's. What Roll will Kuwait Play in helping Iraq get out of Chapter 7 Can they Hold Iraq Back from an event like the RV? P.s pls choose me. Thankyou!
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[Adam Montana] Hawaii 50 love the name
[Adam Montana] Kuwait has been a thorn in our side during this whole thing
[Adam Montana] they don't want Iraq out of Chapter 7, because Chapter 7 is like a lien on Iraq for Kuwait
[Adam Montana] they've stalled and protested for years
[Adam Montana] fortunately for us, they aren't as influential as they used to be
[Adam Montana] the world sees that Iraq has done well repaying Kuwait for their crimes, the world trusts that Iraq is a NEW Iraq, and they are ready to move forward
[Adam Montana] thanks for the question
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] RickOhio Just read an article that Maliki will be presenting new candidates for the remaining ministers and they will be voted on. Would approval of these guys be enough to trigger a release from Chapter 7 & finalization of the HCL?

[Adam Montana] absolutely! That is one of the many triggers we are looking at now
[Adam Montana] next please
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[kcw] cashman54 Adam is it true that Malaki is waiting for China to revalue its currency before Iraq does theirs?
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[Adam Montana] I don't think so. We'll be waiting for a long time if that was the case
[Adam Montana] China is a master chess player when it comes to their currency rate
[Adam Montana] Iraq will move forward regardless of what China does
[Adam Montana] next pleas
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[kcw] jas428 What are the chances that the big ticket items (HCL and the 2012 Budget) don't get passed this week due to conflicts (as always) that Parliament has with the bills.
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[Adam Montana] 50/50
[Adam Montana] next please

AJANDERSON INTEL 2 DEC

I received many source calls yesterday that the RV?RI is to go down this month. That the RV?RI will happen at night in the US after all banks are closed. I am highly optimistic for the window of the 5th through the 6th, but only optimistic. The next window I am optimistic about is the 12th though the 15th. If the RV?RI does not happen within these two windows, the RV?RI will not happen this year at all, but I could be wrong. Time will only tell! I know my investment is sound and I take all intel with a grain of salt, even the calls I receive. God Bless. AJ

GURU BLAINO POST 2 DEC

12-1-2011 Guru Blaino There
are some National scale players - mega corps, Countries, several
wealthy types (very BIG Fish)...have in fact CASHED OUT using leveraged
deals...asset backed. It's different than you going to your
bank and cashing out. I did get confirmation. Smoky Joe (Biden) has
been over there having meetings with governor of the Central Bank of
Iraq (al Shabibi) and most of the conversations and agreements are
complete at this time. More will be happening today (Thursday) in about 5 hours (Midnight, Central Time) when "today" starts in Iraq. They will be dusting off all the details tomorrow and there was a lot of conversation about the "Button". It is now back where we thought it always belonged, with al Shabibi. We are in 24 - 30 hour countdown...Could be 6 hours or 14... no way (yet) to tell. Rate: $5.72 give or take 45 cents more or less.