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Saturday, February 25, 2017

WSOMN CHAT UPDATE, 25 FEB

I HOPE TO HAVE MORE CLARITY BETWEEN 9-11PM MT TONIGHT.


 

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

 

AB is that 22:00-23:00 EST

 

2300 - 0100 ET


I RATE FIREFLY AND MR B TOGETHER AS SOUND THINKERS THAT CAN ARTICULATE THEIR VIEWS WITHOUT ANIMOSITY AND MAKE YOU FEEL INFORMED EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE


Question is, why is Iraq in Syria when they should be in Mosul?

 

RAB 
Firefly:ISIS is vacating Mosul and moving to "safer places" in SYria.

Like I said, I'm exprcting some BIG announcements in print "IN the coming Days"


Why did Trump ammend the tax laws that were ammended in Dec ???????


The Dec ammendments were horrid

The only delay I'm aware of was 2012 thru 2014


Yet all the Gurus were still calling it everyday .... sheesh


Like I said, be very careful whom you listen to. Always best to do your own due diligence


IMO, there is already a date set. What it is ....... NOBODY BUT NOBODY knows


Especially anyone from Dinarland lol


The ones who know will NEVER leak it out to ANYBODY


period

 

Soon, we will just wake up to it with absolutely no warning


Iraq is telling the world they are in the process of a currency adjustment as is the IMF and UN. There is no more hope so Smile


We just patiently wait Smile


Investors are proffesionals at patience 


 

dp Sorry no one captured the convo with Firefly far as it is visible to me. If you look at the Firefly posts and read between the lines you will have basically what was brought earlier. The info made available has me in vigilant mode for the next 36 hours. Not intended to get people's hopes up and setting them up for disappointment, but vigilant nonetheless. Blessings

dpchamp: This is what I caught: I am expecting huge news very soon. Waiting over the next 36 hour time frame fora currency adjustment that was stated by Abadi and Alak"


We have many fakes in Dinarland wuth an agenda. Please .... do your own diligence :Smile

FF sorry for being so cryptic... Was wondering if you have ever spoken with Dizzy Bear. Not to ask what about just wondering if he was one you have talked with.

 

No, never heard of Dizzy Bear sorry, can't comment

Nah, Ive put an end to any relationship with everybody from OM

 

Firefly... what do you think of AdminBill and what he brings in???


 

I like him Smile




 

I still remember Ray blowing those siren alerts and couldn't help but laugh because the plan was on hold




 

Carefull ff dinar guru will crown you as new guru, that's why I never say anything clever here.yet recaps still posts me lol




 

They always misquote me. Even I don't understand what I said on Guru the chop it up so bad


 

I've sent recaps multiple requests to stop posting me yet they continue to do so


 

FF I have been adding this from time to time just because the chat was getting reposted regularly Recaps, Dinar Chronicles and other websites you do not have my permission to reprint my comments...


 

I tried that Z

 

fact is, unless you copyright everything it is public domain


alrighty folks, time to get some more errands done. Take care of each other

 

Folks, please do not copy and paste me. What I say is for the members only. Thank you kindly Smile

TNT UPDATE, 25 FEB

TNT:

Daz:  SOME THOUGHTS ON "QUALIFYING" AT THE EXCHANGE MEETING

EXCHANGE THOUGHTS:   DC'S COMMENTS ABOUT BANK EXCHANGERS DETERMINATIONS OF YOUR QUALIFYING FOR CONTRACTS ARE GENERAL GUIDANCES....

MY GUT TELLS ME IT WILL GO MUCH DIFFERENTLY FOR MOST..THESE ARE BROAD GENERALIZED STATEMENTS OF GUIDANCE TO HELP MANY OF THOSE THAT REALLY HAVE NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE OR CONCEPT OF BUSINESS OR BANKING.

JUST BE NEAT AND LOOK LIKE YOU MEANT TO GET DRESSED TO MEET SOMEONE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A KIND AND  FAVORABLE IMPRESSION OF YOU....ITS JUST A FIRST DATE...NOT THE WEDDING..

IM NOT EVEN GOING TO LET THE IDEA OF SOME "QUALIFYING"  CLOUD MY EXPERIENCE OF THIS THING. THE QUICKEST, EASIEST WAY TO APPEAR OR, BE PERCEIVED AS FEARFUL AND LACKING CONFIDENCE, IS TO FEEL YOU  ARE BEING JUDGED ON THOSE ATTRIBUTES. WINNERS DONT DO THAT.

JUST BE A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF YOURSELF...NOT SOMEBODY ELSE...BE KIND, PUT A SMILE ON THE INSIDE...AND OUTSIDE. BE YOURSELF...BEING FAKE WONT GET YOU PAID ANY QUICKER OR BETTER IMO.

REALLY FEEL THE SMILE ON THE INSIDE..VISUALIZE IT..PRACTICE IT NOW...IT REALLY DOES CHANGE THE ENERGY IN A MEETING....YOU'LL BE FINE.

I WOULD NOT VOLUNTEER TOO MANY DETAILS, IDEAS OR CONCEPTS, GENERALLY, ALL GREAT IDEAS ALWAYS FIND OPPOSITION. A NEUTRAL CONFIDENT STANCE MAY BE WISE.

A FRIEND ONCE TOLD ME...."YOU DONT HAVE TO TELL EVERYBODY EVERYTHING YOU KNOW...AND ITS BETTER THAT YOU DONT".

BANKERS WOULD RATHER HEAR THAT YOU WANT THEM TO TELL "YOU" ABOUT ALL THE PLANS, POSSIBILITIES, STRUCTURES AND OPPORTUNITIES THEY MAY PROVIDE. WM'S DONT WANT TO BE TOLD HOW TO DO THIER JOB OR HOW YOU WANT THEM TO DO IT.

ULTIMATELY THEY TRUELY JUST WANT YOU TO HAND THEM THE MONEY TO PLUG INTO THEIR EXISTING SYSTEM. ...THATS THE WAY THEY ARE TRAINED AND WHAT THEY ARE GENERALLY USED TO....AND THATS JUST THE REALITY OF THE THING.

WE WILL BE CALM, CONFIDENT AND SMILING...

THEY WILL BE TIRED, DISORIENTED AND ANXIOUS...

SURELY WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE.

IF YOU ARE ASKED ABOUT YOUR PLANS,,,,MAYBE A SIMPLE BUT SOMEWHAT AMBIGUOUS REPLY MAY BE BEST...

"I PLAN TO MAKE MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE AND THEN I WANT TO LEARN HOW TO PROTECT AND GROW MY MONEY FOR GENERATIONS...AND, I NEED SOME HELP WITH THAT."

THAT WILL PUSH ALL THE NECESSARY BUTTONS.

AND REMEMBER....IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, ASK, IF YOU DONT GET AN ANSWER YOU CAN UNDERSTAND, ASK SOMEBODY ELSE AND,......

IF IT DONT FEEL RIGHT...DONT DO IT

Daz: HELLO MR. BANKER, I HAVE IRAQ DINAR, VIETNAM DONG AND ZIMBABWE CURRENCY. I WOULD LIKE TO EXCHANGE...CAN WE DISCUSS THE MOST FAVORABLE RATES AND TERMS, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, AVAILABLE FOR EACH?

WELL MR BANKER.....I RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION IN THE PAST THAT THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE RATE AVAILABLE DEPENDING ON HOW WE EXECUTED THIS EXCHANGE.

IF THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BESIDE AN EXCHANGE AT THE INTERNATIONAL RATE, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THOSE TERMS AND REQUIREMENTS IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU OR ANY AT THIS BANK.

RELAXED, CONFIDENT, FRIENDLY AND PURPOSEFUL

EASY, SIMPLE, HONEST, INFORMED AND DIRECT
TNT Cont……..

Sabickord:  20 years ago we had Bob Hope, Johnny Cash and Steve Jobs. Now we have No Hope, No Cash, and No Jobs. Please Lord don't let Kevin Bacon Die.

Some People should be very grateful that I don't have Mob Connections

I wish I had a cute laugh or one of those laughs that make people laugh but I sound like a hyperventilating walrus with asthma

Just thought I should warn you. My Sanity has departed and left no forwarding address.

Stupid people aren't annoying. They are free entertainment.

Sometimes I question my sanity. Occasionally it replies.

I'm glad you are learning to laugh at yourself. That was getting awkward for the rest of us.

I really think it's time to take warning labels off everything and let stupidity work itself out of the gene pool

I Try to be nice. But sometimes my mouth doesn't co-operate

Once you lick the frosting off a cupcake, it becomes a muffin and muffins are healthy. You're welcome
 

"RE-Valuation" by Anonymous , 25 FEB

"RE-Valuation" by Anonymous - 2.24.17

RE-Valuation- my understanding of what I was told, is this is a calculated adjustment of the value of an individual currency based on the resources per capita (per the amount of people in that currency's country)

.. Also my understanding that this would be done so that the currencies of all countries would be on a par with each others.

(it may sometimes seem like splitting hairs to try and have an ultimate and final definition of terms, however. perhaps necessary. there are so many people coming at this from a variety of angles, some varying greatly and others just shaving off the slightest of degrees, this makes for very intense light shining on lots of poignant bits of information as well as concentrating larger groups of general information.)
....
GOLD BACKED... heard in America gold used to be1/7 with silver, then came the so called "Gold Standard," which was achieved by taking away silver.

Perhaps the key to what we are thinking is "Insured by Gold," or "Currency Underwritten by Gold" however the Valuation is upon the resources per capita

The Dollar I think can be said to be the World Currency, and so it maybe that by its nature it manipulates the Valuation of every other ( I don't know). Whatever all of that history has brought us to today, now we have Reno, at least that is what I hear and seems to be the case.

From rumor, supposedly the TRN has been traded in international markets for more than a year I think. I don't know how to validate

The RV happened in October, meaning what.. all the calculations of the valuations were performed? and they are watching, watching, watching... with the numbers all computed so they know what it will look like.

And so maybe GCR is the moment all the tickers and numbers go to zero and all the valuations are plugged in from that point, and whatever happens after that is new, and a clear break from the old.

Friday, February 24, 2017

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 24 FEB

2-24-2017   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  "Abadi Votal discuss the battle of Mosul and international support for Iraq"   I don't expect the CBI to "flip" a switch the day after liberalization of Mosul.  It will take some time to stabilize the area and begin the clean up, return citizens to their homes etc.  So we could be waiting a few months after before the CBI decides to begin currency reform.  Especially with the spread still not close to 2%.

2-24-2017   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77 
  Article:  "After Mosul: Certainties and Uncertainties"   ...the US position in Iraq post DAASH is becoming clearer by the day IMO...Keep the peace between the various political factions...build those bases and staff them to further kick some DAASH butt in nearby Syria...and don't lose sight of that GIGANTIC pool of oil...we may not own it...but we want first dibs to it...Plus have Iraq stepping out on the world stage for the first time....being the ones who get to introduce her to the world...oh buddy...good times are coming...because....the BEST is coming...I'm looking to Sunday maybe into Monday to be quite interesting.

2-24-2017   Intel Guru Bruce 
  My understanding is that President Trump is actually doing everything in his power which is substantial as we know to move this thing through and get it done now.  We heard 3 days ago now actually that the banks in Mosul were up and running. I believe the Mosul airport is up and running now. I don’t know how much work the city needs in terms of infrastructure. I believe it needs a whole lot. At least in the day to day operations from what I understand are back in place.   There have been a few little announcements in main stream news here about the restoration of Mosul being taken back which is very positive.   I just got a call...that approximately at 9pm EST [Thursday]...that Iraq began their monetary reform on their CBI website. So what they are doing now in trying to update and possibly put out new rates I hope essentially is the trigger for...the RV for the dinar...   Looks like Iraq has begun their process of economic monetary reform through their CBI website.   I am excited...I think that is a good sign. ...we are in really good shape for this to roll out...

2-24-2017   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  "Iraq joined the Convention on the transparency of the arbitration between investors and states"  Quote:  "This agreement is an important message and clear to the world that Iraq is a major hub in the Middle East for investment and reconstruction and construction," noting that "this agreement adopted by the United Nations to save the rights transparently in the event of a conflict between investors and states."   Dispute resolution is critical.  A good sign.

2-24-2017   Newshound Guru loop   Article:  "Parliamentary oil suggest the presence of 300 billion barrels of undiscovered"  Quote:  "...said the oil profanity by Mehdi al-Hafez, Tuesday, that there is a plan of action will begin to explore more than 300 billion barrels of oil, Iraq added to the reserve. If Hafiz is correct Iraq will have the largest reserves in the world.  What we do know for sure is that they just add 10 billion to their reserves last week.  Iraq is currently 5th in the world as far as oil reserves go. Much of their country has yet to be explored for oil. I would be surprised if they do not find much more.

2-24-2017   Newshound Guru Kaperoni  Keep in mind, there are several things that could effect the reserves.  Oil prices could skyrocket to $100 +, they could officially get out of UN Chapter 7 and get some funds that are being held released, etc.  But it seems like the IMF has a plan with the CBI.  We all have seen the efforts the last 12 months or so to improve the banking system.  So despite these possibilities, I believe the reason is more in line with improving Iraq's economy, putting people to work, rebuilding post ISIL and opening the banking system to the world for investment...at least we can hope anyway.   [post 2 of 2]

2-24-2017   Newshound Guru Kaperoni  Article:  "IMF confirms the stability of Iraq's reserves of hard currency"  Quote:  "the IMF said in his study, that Iraq reserves will arrive in 2018 to $ 62 billion , and then rise to $ 91 billion in 2020 due to improved conditions of the Iraqi economy and oil exports and its derivatives and the sufficiency of electricity imported to some provinces and gas export and promotion of tourism, industry and all economic resources bode well"   I think the important thing here is that something pretty substantial must occur this year for this forecast to be true.  As we all should know by now, Iraqi oil is not enough at the current prices to increase reserves because they spend more than they make.  So I expect them to transition to a market economy this year in order to improve the reserves by $50 billion over the next two years or so.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

2-24-2017   Intel Guru Frank26   The IMF doesn’t want them to float...but IMO...I think they are going to float There is a compression of a lot of DEAL going on as the fat lady gets out of the way to show the liberation of Mosul.  Once you have Mosul...you’ll see the reason for the negotiations...which you wouldn’t see happening with a program rate.  The DEALS are across the board...creating fairness in trade and currencies.  This is VERY historical.  I like how Abadi told everyone at the meeting in Germany...“we’re open for business...come on in!”  Germany did tell Abadi...“ok”...and they did...quickly.   Abadi received today a German delegation...Merkel says they are there to help with the economic reforms. Didn’t take them long to show up.  No country is in this for an 1186 program rate!

TNT INTEL, 24 FEB

TNT Beethovan:

The banker who had notarized my gifting letters a long time ago stopped me the other day as I was passing to give a REAL cheery hello. He mentioned that he got into conversation when he went to pick up his son from a play date. The friend's father is a money manager at a Manhattan hedge fund and talked about the dinar. I'm sure the kid's father doesn't know any more than us, but all of a sudden I'm not so crazy asking for gifting letters to be notarized. I'm surprised he remembered me. I coyly asked the banker if he was going to buy any dinar. He replied, "So did my sister."